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  • Slightly irrelevant to this thread @HeroDanTV but....you should sign up to vimm.tv
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  • @GrannyonAcid said:
    Still... I get it can be frustrating to lose points and ranks because of DC's. League of Legends is a prime example. That game has issues with DC's. And it tilts you more cause you're in there for 20 minutes at least if they do DC. How do they punish their player base... I think they lose rank point for dcing. Not sure if it's any extra from just getting the loss. They also have a tribunal system or at least used to when I played a lot. Where if someone DC'd a ton of times... It would leave them banned. I'd say that's probably the best system.

    You're here trying to come up with 5-10 minute bans on players for dcing. Why can't they have a report system that works. Hey this survivor has been reported for disconnected 325 times in the last two days. Then they issue a 24-hour ban. DBD isn't free... It's not expensive either. So people will probably stop once they start building up longer bans. Is Dcing to save this flashlight really worth another 24 hour ban?

    But the DBD team works really slow on everything. Simple things that should be able to be hotfixed in 20 minutes, will take them a year.

    I'm recommending a progressive cooldown.
    An additional 5 min for each additional disconnect. I don't even care if this reset weekly...it would definitely have an effect on intentional DC's.
    It would not greatly effect those that have an unintentional disconnect, as the simple fact is an unintentional disconnect is not a common thing. Yes, it may be common worldwide as a whole...but per individual, no.

  • @TreblucFayle said:

    @splatvybz said:

    Maybe that's something on PC....don't know...but i'm telling you this just happened this morning....def was not granted a freebie black pip.....i lost a pip and my rank from it

    ps4

    I know there is sometimes a visual bug that shows a de-pip/ de-rank, but it's not real. After the next game it goes back.

    Oh no...i lost a pip and went down in rank...it did not "fix" after the next game.

  • @GrannyonAcid said:
    Yeah. I know they changed the losing a pip thing awhile ago. That happened the last time I was playing DBD. That was a good change. Figured that it had fixed the bad stuff about DCing out of the match. No idea what that actual rules are on regarding a DC... Maybe it's different if a killer quit out of the match over dcing? Cause the game ended as soon as we loaded in. Me and my SWF teammate both got 12,000 BP's and a pip. (Not sure on the BP but it was the exact number to level us up.)

    We just laughed it off and were like... I hope every killer dc's against us. I think just enforcing that onto console and regardless of a quit/dc would be a good enough change. No ones going to complain about getting handed over free BP.

    Yeah...trust me...if that was occurring...I wouldn't have made this post.
    However, I still think a progressive cooldown is a wise implementation for this game (without dedicated servers of course)

  • @TreblucFayle said:
    @GrannyonAcid In fact, even if you don't earn enough points for a pip the game automatically gives you a safety pip (black pip) if the killer DCs. You lose nothing when a killer DCs. The Devs changed that quite some time ago.

    Maybe that's something on PC....don't know...but i'm telling you this just happened this morning....def was not granted a freebie black pip.....i lost a pip and my rank from it

    ps4

  • @GrannyonAcid said:

    @splatvybz said:

    @GrannyonAcid said:
    How is DCing and issue? If a killer dc's don't the survivors get points for the match and an auto pip? If the survivors DC the killer gets point for it. Think that's a pretty balanced system. Not sure what all this fuss is about.

    And you can have really good internet and disconnect. I personally have my router randomly restart between 1-3 am every night. I had a power surge yesterday and lost power. Oh my! What if my internet has a day where it just keeps going off. I should have a 1 hour penalty for it.

    You realize if you add a 5-10 minute penalty on a dc.. The casual players are just like... Yep done with this game for the day. Just another way to lower the player base. Not that you really want a game full of DC'ers... But in this game they really don't matter.

    I'd much rather have a DC in Dead by Daylight in the game then a game that's actually competitive. DCing in League of Legends, Dota, Counterstrike... That's annoying. Dbd games last like 2 minutes.

    No....say a killer for example disconnects right at the start of the match...you will acquire a very small amount of points...nowhere near enough to maintain a pip however. An early killer disconnect will def result in a pip loss.
    I don't want to act like it's only a problem from killers either.....having teammates DC is equally frustrating.
    At least occasionally a killer will have pity on you for it happening and let you farm some points....but that's rare also.
    DC'ing is def an issue.

    I just started playing DBD again about a week ago. The other day I had a killer DC against me at the start of the match. I was given BP's that equaled a pip exactly. Isn't that how it is working for everybody? If that's the system... I don't see why that isn't fair.

    Def not on console anyway....I literally just had it happen this morning....killer DC'd less than 20 seconds into the match....i earned a whopping 4k bloodpoints (that was with an offering btw)...lost a pip and my level 6 rank.
    I don't want people kicked from the game...please understand that.....a progressive cooldown would have an extremely minute effect on players that have occasional "whoops there goes the power/internet" but it would have a great effect on people that are doing it habitually.
    Progression could even reset with every new season/chapter.

  • @TreblucFayle said:
    @splatvybz But my point is that an automated system can't determine intentional DC from uncontrollable DC. If someone has a problem that pops up, this proposed system is punishing them for something they can't control.

    The fact that this is only doing temporary punishments means nothing. It's still a punishment the player does not deserve.

    Also, considering how many players can have issues filling lobbies (for various reasons), this would compound the issue and make wait times go up.

    We need more players in the game, not fewer.

    I don't agree with you...sorry
    DC for whatever reason should have a cooldown....and it should be progressive.
    Clearly this is my opinion and it seems I'm not alone in this.
    If for some reason my power flickers and I DC...I would not cry about having a cooldown.
    If constant cooldowns cause someone to not want to play....well....something very likely led to those "constant" cooldowns....I'd rather see one person quit for this over losing multiple leaving due to the frustration of not having any way to resolve this.

  • @GrannyonAcid said:
    How is DCing and issue? If a killer dc's don't the survivors get points for the match and an auto pip? If the survivors DC the killer gets point for it. Think that's a pretty balanced system. Not sure what all this fuss is about.

    And you can have really good internet and disconnect. I personally have my router randomly restart between 1-3 am every night. I had a power surge yesterday and lost power. Oh my! What if my internet has a day where it just keeps going off. I should have a 1 hour penalty for it.

    You realize if you add a 5-10 minute penalty on a dc.. The casual players are just like... Yep done with this game for the day. Just another way to lower the player base. Not that you really want a game full of DC'ers... But in this game they really don't matter.

    I'd much rather have a DC in Dead by Daylight in the game then a game that's actually competitive. DCing in League of Legends, Dota, Counterstrike... That's annoying. Dbd games last like 2 minutes.

    No....say a killer for example disconnects right at the start of the match...you will acquire a very small amount of points...nowhere near enough to maintain a pip however. An early killer disconnect will def result in a pip loss.
    I don't want to act like it's only a problem from killers either.....having teammates DC is equally frustrating.
    At least occasionally a killer will have pity on you for it happening and let you farm some points....but that's rare also.
    DC'ing is def an issue.

  • @MhhBurgers said:

    @splatvybz said:

    @MhhBurgers said:
    It's ableism to think that everybody has good internet, if you don't work having internet at all is already expensive.

    We get it...you don't care at all about how you affect those forced to play with you.
    Why are you still commenting?
    Couldn't you be out looking for a job, that provides you the opportunity to afford internet that would not only increase the fun you have playing games, but those you play with as well.
    I'm not hating on you....I'm just....hating on you.
    I mean you are telling us that you intentionally pay for the worst internet you can get because you don't have a job....maybe gaming shouldn't be a priority in your life right now.

    lifegoals

    Ya I'm totally gonna slave my ass off so you can have a better gaming experience.

    Here's the thing, devs didn't put a minimum required internet connection on the store so I guess you have to deal with ppl like me.

    Having any source of income at all = slaving my ass off
    Aren't you the ever amazing benefit to society as a whole.....

    sarcasm

  • @TreblucFayle said:
    People don't have control over losing their connection. You can have the BEST connection money can buy that is stable 100% of the time, but a small problem beyond your control can drop your connection long enough to DC you from a game like this. Also hardware glitches or just a simple game crash can DC people from games and should not be faced with a punishment.

    Punishing people for something they can't change/ control? That's just silly.

    Also, people can DC without affecting the team (at the end of match or before death). I do this when I want to de-rank a bit. But an automatic system would punish these people for no reason.

    I agree that people who DC a lot SHOULD be punished. But the Devs are already giving soft-bans for people who DC too much. That's enough punishment.

    Not silly at all.....as I said, we aren't talking about a permanent ban.....if you "occasionally" disconnect...you "occasionally" get a timeout....an "occasional" DC that is completely out of your control should honestly happen so infrequently that a 5min timeout would not affect your life.

    DC's should have a cool down period regardless of the cause of the DC

  • @MhhBurgers said:
    It's ableism to think that everybody has good internet, if you don't work having internet at all is already expensive.

    We get it...you don't care at all about how you affect those forced to play with you.
    Why are you still commenting?
    Couldn't you be out looking for a job, that provides you the opportunity to afford internet that would not only increase the fun you have playing games, but those you play with as well.
    I'm not hating on you....I'm just....hating on you.
    I mean you are telling us that you intentionally pay for the worst internet you can get because you don't have a job....maybe gaming shouldn't be a priority in your life right now.

    lifegoals

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Orion said:

    @splatvybz said:

    @Khalednazari said:
    The issue here is that the game cannot differentiate between legit disconnections and rage quit. 

    Should make no difference.
    If you're internet connection is not stable enough to play, you shouldn't play.
    Is a team supposed to suffer because of someone having bad internet....should players have to go through multiple long lobby waits because someone with crap internet is trying to host....the answer is no.
    I don't drive a car without gas either.

    +1. Stable and good Internet is a requirement for online gaming, just like any piece of hardware. If you don't have it, don't play games that require it.

    Uh yeah actually no, I paid for the game so I get to play it, end of story.

    My internet is very unstable since I live in germany which has basically 3rd world grade internet in some regions, it's not my fault (except ofc for voting for parties that chose to build our TV network with a higher priority than internet but nobody ever could've forseen that the internet would be this big 10 years later)

    So because you dont have a proper connection, you make all players of the session suffer with you?

    I live in germany too btw :wink:

    I was about to say...I play with plenty of gamers from Germany that don't have terrible internet.

  • @MhhBurgers said:

    @Orion said:

    @splatvybz said:

    @Khalednazari said:
    The issue here is that the game cannot differentiate between legit disconnections and rage quit. 

    Should make no difference.
    If you're internet connection is not stable enough to play, you shouldn't play.
    Is a team supposed to suffer because of someone having bad internet....should players have to go through multiple long lobby waits because someone with crap internet is trying to host....the answer is no.
    I don't drive a car without gas either.

    +1. Stable and good Internet is a requirement for online gaming, just like any piece of hardware. If you don't have it, don't play games that require it.

    Uh yeah actually no, I paid for the game so I get to play it, end of story.

    My internet is very unstable since I live in germany which has basically 3rd world grade internet in some regions, it's not my fault (except ofc for voting for parties that chose to build our TV network with a higher priority than internet but nobody ever could've forseen that the internet would be this big 10 years later)

    Um, yeah actually yeah.
    The fact you knowingly online game with unstable internet...that's your problem....but your problem affects everyone else...which is absolutely ridiculous.
    Stable internet is ABSOLUTELY a requirement for online gaming.
    Not caring how you affect everyone you play with is just plain selfish.
    There are 1000's of games you could play online, that a bad connection would not ruin the experience of everyone else...this is not one of them.
    I'm not saying you should be permanently banned...but a progressive time out should most definitely be implemented.

  • @TheBean said:
    What they could do is... Lock the character they used when disconnecting / leaving until they fully play another match with a different character. Then have up to a max of say 5 locked character if they keep disconnecting.

    That way they might think twice about disconnecting if they can't play another match right away with the same character they like to use.

    No...i want a straight up progressive time ban for the user.
    They have no issue punishing us....for example I just started a match, killer disconnected 20 seconds into the match....my offering is gone and I lost a pip......ridiculous......there should absolutely be a progressive time penalty for DC's

  • @SoulBagel said:

    @splatvybz said:

    @Khalednazari said:
    The issue here is that the game cannot differentiate between legit disconnections and rage quit. 

    Should make no difference.
    If you're internet connection is not stable enough to play, you shouldn't play.
    Is a team supposed to suffer because of someone having bad internet....should players have to go through multiple long lobby waits because someone with crap internet is trying to host....the answer is no.
    I don't drive a car without gas either.

    While I would like to see people who rage quit often get punished, random DC's do happen. I was in a game the other day where 30 seconds in the killer found 3 of us, we scrambled and I got hit, ran into another survivor and used Dead Hard to avoid the next hit, and then the power went out for a second (someone took out a power pole near my house). To the other players it looked like I rage quit (Which I have never nor will never DC because "its no fair").

    Which is why I think that a progressive timeout that starts small would be fair.

  • @Khalednazari said:
    The issue here is that the game cannot differentiate between legit disconnections and rage quit. 

    Should make no difference.
    If you're internet connection is not stable enough to play, you shouldn't play.
    Is a team supposed to suffer because of someone having bad internet....should players have to go through multiple long lobby waits because someone with crap internet is trying to host....the answer is no.
    I don't drive a car without gas either.

  • As a game dev myself....the answer is simply that updates and patches can be implemented and tested quicker on PC than it can on almost any console (the Nintendo Switch has so far been very dev friendly though, but still easier on PC).

  • @ChesterTheMolester said:
    splatvybz said:

    PS4 ~ Shards Purchase

    I bought the dark blue hoodie for Dwight.
    I bought it in hopes to hide a little better in dark mist.

    I would never had purchased this stupid thing if it showed me in the store.

    MEANWHILE WITH CHESTER

    That is friggin hilarious!!

  • @blue4zion said:
    You can turn the characters to see the whole outfit, just hover your cursor over them, hold X, move.
    I think this is an "Oops" on your end so I'm not sure they'll give them back. :(

    Yep...sure didn't know that.
    Wish I had...1900 shards for something I will never use really sucks