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@DwightTheMight said:
I think that the ability to instantly down someone from anywhere in the map (For good huntresses) is pretty strong but reasonable if there is only one, but with infantry belt. If she hits her shots she can instantly down almost all the survivors before having to reload. I just think that iridescent head should take up both slots of the add ons?
With just iri heads... definitely not. With the belt its debatable. Hatchets can be dodged... dont forget that. On umbra or scottjund they are op but otherwise I dont think so
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@AkiTheKitten said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/765927#Comment_765927
Oh no, I agree. But their base kit should be buffed is my point lol
Yeah for sure. But atm with their base kit they are mediocre. There are killers that are useless without specific addons so they should probably be looked at first. I think doc is next from what I know.
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@AkiTheKitten said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/765921#Comment_765921
I don't think it's ok for killers to need to rely on ultra rares to be good
No it's definitely not okay... I'm just saying how they can be strong atm.
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@AkiTheKitten said:
Can we buff those two? I wanna main them but they really aren't worth it in the long run. They kinda feel forgotten when it comes to the female killer roster and it's sad cause both are really cool.
>this also applies to Legion but I have no clue if they need buffs or a rework
Edit: I thought of a solution for Plague that's not original in the slightest
Make infected survivors have a Thana effect. Like, (insert %) of gen repair, healing and totem cleansing debuff.
A hindered-like status effect could work too but it might be op?
Plagues pink addons make her pretty strong... you can snowball hard if you run infectious fright too. With pig if you run rules set and timer and tunnel and get head pops or you play her like scorpionz she's also really strong. Legion you need to run game slowdown build with increased duration addon and maybe iri button if you have it.
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@TheGhostFaceMain said:
I believe those that are under Nurse and Spirit is Hillbilly, Freddy, Huntress, & Demogorgon (if play him well) in that order. The reason for Hillbilly being the highest is because of how his power is easily countered by survivors like destroying portals, doing gens/ being awake, and running out of your ability if the survivor outplays your hatchets.
This is all my opinion but I'd like to hear others.
Your ordering is correct but the reason is incorrect. Billy is also "countered" by looping. Huntress can hit over some loops, freddy can snare loops or completely shut them down with fake pallets and demo can use his lunge. Billy gets looped. The reason why he is the third best killer is because of his incredible map presence and because insta saw is borderline op. Otherwise your ordering is about right. Nurse spirit billy freddy huntress demo hag etc
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@Mr_Goodman said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/549/RU3U8GV3D3GM.jpg
When you can win by just tunneling and camping, it clearly shows that rank doesn't mean anything anymore. You can still pip so easily as killer/survivor, no wonder the matchmaking is so bad.
Killers have camping and tunneling, survivors have looping and gen rushing. They balance each other on both sides so I always laugh when I see "camping" or "looping" posts...
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@Blackdecay7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/90202/tier-list-with-detailed-explanations
Nurse is ######### trash killer
Ah ######### you're right
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@Chocolate_Cosmos said:
Clown and Wraith (without good add-ons) are worse than Bubba.
I can see that. That's why placements can vary depending on addons etc
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@Mister_xD said:
i'd move Trapper to B tier, honestly.
its not that he's a very strong killer, but he can be devestating in the right situations.
also, i disagree when you said that he needs the iridescent stone and bloody coil to be considered good.
imo those are not his strongest add ons - they are if you combine both of them, though each on their own isnt really that great.
i'd say the add ons you should be using with him consistently would be 3 sets:
- the trap setting speed set
- the bag set
- the darkening set
those are the add ons you wanna run on him, if you dont want to run the double red combo (i personally prefer all of these over the double reds btw).
i honestly think that there is a huge difference between bad and good trappers. while i agree that bad trappers will end up getting stomped pretty much all the time, a good trapper can also stomp the survivors in very short time, so he has the potential to rise up in the ranking, though i agree you see very few Trappers out there that are actually very good with the killer.
At the end of the day no matter how good you are with him without these addons good survivors will disarm all your traps. But yeah there is a difference between good trap placements and bad ones.
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/711190#Comment_711190
We aren't comparing a killers level of strength using their absolute best and rare/ultra rare addons.
That's true but they should also be taken into consideration. But yeah without addons she's just mediocre.
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@Blueberry said:
If no one actually cleanses then she never even gets to use it, hence why she's a weak killer that doesn't even get to use her power.
Not if you run iri seal with the purple addon that makes the corrupt last longer.
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For everyone going at it about huntress vs hag... the reason I put huntress higher is because of iri heads. But I can see both sides.
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@jordirex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/710963#Comment_710963
Look, I once played against Michi, I'm trust you know him. He dced after seeing we had one obj of obs.
If you're very good with huntress, there's no way a hag is more efficient
I know michi. If huntress gets the right map she can be better yes but on some maps I'd say a good hag can be better. I dont know tbh I can see both sides.
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@AChaoticKiller said:
Hag is about tied with billy, she does not need a certain map to do good like huntress and even if you get a good huntress map she can still do better. with hag your movement speed is no issue since your using your traps and small TR to get hits and downs, if your chasing a survivor for more than 40 seconds your playing her wrong. As for Freddy hes good but cant apply the same map pressure as hag and cant get multiple consecutive hits to put major pressure on survivors. Freddy can also easily be looped even if hes using his default power, all you have to do is play the memory game with pallets which is at least for me pretty easy.
edit: Also survivors who run around wasting your traps are just wasting their time, they often mess up and let you get right into chasing a new target. In all my time plating as hag a team like this is also rare and has never won against me.
Yeah you have good points there. I wouldn't say she's tied with billy but I can see the argument for it. On huge maps tho she cant have that good map pressure unless you're running mint rag. I would probably be okay with placing her above freddy maybe even above huntess.
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/710024#Comment_710024
Hag has more map pressure than Freddy if you know how to play her. Also, nothing will save Huntress from bad map design, even Iri Heads. You can still ness with her on 80% of the maps.
Explain how you're going to patrol gens with hag? You can kinda do it with mint rag, but even then good survivors won't let you. She does have probably the best area control out of all killers but when it comes to getting around big maps she lacks there.
About huntress I agree she is very mad dependant which I forgot to mention. Well said.
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@Boss said:
Don't forget to mention Make Your Choice & the Hatch Camp technique on Wraith.
Yeah that too
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@TheGorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/710014#Comment_710014
Yeah, that's with a perk and add-on to make him stronger. Why can't his power carry some weight? It makes him seem dull and counter-productive to play to win at high ranks. Plus, using a perk like Stridor (which is a good perk) ,but there are many better options.
Yeah her power alone without addons isnt that good, which is why she is in B tier instead of A. And stridor isnt a good perk usually, but if you're using this looking up strat you need it. It makes it easier to track survivors while looking up.
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@Marcus said:
I would put Hag 4th and Clown, Legion and Trapper lower.
Freddy has the map pressure hag doesn't, and huntress has insta hatchets and machine gun hatchets. Those are the reasons she isn't 4th imo. And for clown legion and trapper. They can be really strong with certain addons.
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@TheGorgon said:
Nah, Bubba sucks. If it's @GrootDude , he's absolutely the best and will always be at LeatherFace. Other than that though, even at green ranks... you will be having a difficult time with him. Love the design, love the franchise, but he doesn't work right now in the majority of players mind. Of course, any killer can become really good if enough time and input is injected into them, but...
I just don't see why Bubba is even considered as "stronger". Other than that, I agree with the tier list. Why has Amanda been shooting up in the rankings over Myers though? Did she get a buff I'm unaware about?
The looking up strat with stridor and timer+crate addons, is really strong. Its scummy... but its strong. Thats the only reason I placed her higher than myers.