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@Fibijean said:
You make some very valid points.
Matchmaking is messed up. It's probably the number 1 thing that bothers me about the game right now, because it affects new players like you and stops them from wanting to play the game, which I think is really sad. Unfortunately all we can do is hope the developers fix it soon.
They have said that they are currently testing a new system for tracking and punishing DCs, which will hopefully be ready to be implemented once dedicated servers go live.
As for the wait times, in my opinion that's an unfortunate side effect of making the game "balanced". The developers want to make killer and survivor just as fun and rewarding to play as each other. Which is fine, and understandable. The problem is that this is an asymmetrical game, and the consequence of placing both roles on even footing, or attempting to, is that the distribution of people wanting to play each role will be about 50/50. For matchmaking purposes, though, the ideal distribution is about 80/20. So as long as killers are just as attractive to play as survivors, killer queues will be much longer than survivor ones.
I would LOVE to play as killer. I actually prefer the game play over survivor. I specifically bought the Halloween dlc pack just so I could play as Myers. I've seen YouTube gameplay videos of him and he seems really awesome. I've also gotten to play him in game a couple times and overall had a good experience. I know I can't be the only one who wants to play as killer.
I hope something gets fixed soon. I'm glad they're trying to do something about players who DC. That's never fun. At least they're taking a step in the right direction. Problem is, they need to be taking multiple steps in the right direction.
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@MisterCremaster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/102587/totally-unbalanced-wasted-money-on-this-game
You make valid points and it's too bad most of the people who come to these forums will both defend the game like they wrote the code, and then turn around and ######### about the exact same things you said.
Although I will agree with some of them, you knew to come here to complain, but not to research before hand. Most online reviews will say exactly what you have said.
TBH it's a pretty terrible game I can't stop playing. The mechanics are one dimensional, is super imbalanced (to which the devs will say is by design) and the amount often times you don't feel like you won or lost based on skill but instead by randomness completely out of your control (which is the part that annoys me the most).
Its been out for a while, so hopefully you didn't break the bank on it. If you're not having fun just move on and avoid asymmetrical games since I'm not sure can be balanced.
I seem to be getting a pattern here of people telling me I should've researched the game first.
Well
I did. I knew about the game for the last year and recently decided to buy it because I came into a little extra money. I knew about the unbalanced matchmaking already but figured it had gotten addressed or would be addressed soon if not already. I knew the game mechanics. I knew the goals of each side. Sure, maybe it's a bit sad of me to complain when knowing what I signed up for but I feel like the devs have a responsibility to fix a game they've created. Besides, I'm not a hardcore gamer. I'm here to have fun. I just want to have fun fairly.
I want to like the game. I think the premise and basics are a super cool idea. I'm used to balanced PVE games so to play an asymmetrical PVP game is new and exciting.
I have no other complaints other than the matchmaking. So if that gets fixed I'm sure I can love the game.
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@akbays35 said:
It's always been that way and you can benefit from it in a strange kind of Souls way. With extreme difficulty presented early, you know what the killers and survivors are really capable. It's a goalpost. This isn't an entry level game that you can just learn and master in even a hundred hours. I've played this game for 900 on pc and 300 on xbox and I keep learning more stuff. If you like killer/survivor, watch killer/survivor streams/youtube see what they succeed at and copy. The main issue you're gonna approach is the perk grind. For survivor Claudette and Meg are the best start imo. I learned Killer playing Myers and playing killer requires specific focus and understanding of how to play. Wraith might be the best entry level killer since he's fast, stealthy, and he can teach you how to properly loop and approach survivors. The biggest enemy is the map for killer. This community is at least 25% toxic so just accept it and get tougher and just ignore hostility. It's an innate part of online gaming and basic interactions with people.
I really like Claudette. Her self heal perk has helped a lot on game. I also like Wraith but as I've said in my post the killer queue times are hell. I've quit trying to play as killer. I've had my hand at Myers too and I feel like I could be really good with him if I had some proper practice. Right now I'm trying to practice loops though because I just can't get those right for some reason.
Although I did have a successful loop game with an enemy Myers. They ended up quitting the loop and letting me go. But at the same time they were also a new player so I guess I just got lucky that time.
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@Venoxxie said:
Not even gonna read what you said, based on the titled I'm going to assume your mad at the state of the game and you're crying about have a little bit less money now. Well, there's this little thing called Research.
It is YOUR fault for not knowing ANYTHING about this game before buying it because it is the player's choice to read up on a game and it's forums. If you take the choice to NOT read up on the game AT ALL you should NOT be asking for a refund.
Sorry you wasted your money, but it's a lesson learned. Too bad so sad. Next time you go to buy a game, research.
Not even gonna read what you said, based off your first sentence.
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/823963#Comment_823963
It does add to it because I completely explained what your issue with the game was, you just didn't like my answer.
It was called a rant because it was overly longer than needed, full of emotion and jumping to conclusions quickly without proper reasoning IE a rant.
I repeated things in your post because you had contradictions.
Your youtube post was flawed in reasoning and that's why it was pointed out.
You were not told to "git gud" whatsoever. That's a very rude thing to say. What I said was that you need more practice, which is a true statement as you have even said yourself that you are a new player.
You are very quick to get offended. I'm just offering you advice from the things you've complained about from someone who has played this game a lot and can better correct some first impressions you've got.
It's one thing to say you are a new player and the game feels very one sided as a new player. Then to ask for advice on how to improve or what older players here think about the games balance.
What the polar opposite of that is...
"this game is too unbalanced and is a waste of money. I want a refund."
Which makes people not take you seriously and get the type of response that I gave you.
No, it doesn't add anything. You didn't explain anything at all. You just repeated everything I've already mentioned in my post. And you did essentially tell me to git gud because you told me I needed practice without explaining what techniques would be best to practice or give me tips on how to play better. Saying "practice more" is just as unhelpful as saying "git gud". It may not be as rude to say but it's the same thing.
Also, my post isn't a rant. Just because it's long doesn't mean it's a rant. It's not full of emotion; ice provided actual examples of things I've experienced instead of just going "wah I'm bad I hate this game". I feel like I've provided a lot of examples, too. Just because you don't like that I'm pointing out facts that have been presented to me doesn't mean I'm ranting. If anything, it sounds like YOU'RE ranting.
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@MeatBycicle said:
A very big problem for new players is that if you queue up as a new killer lets say, you will have incredibly long queues because it is trying to find you a game with survivors at your rank, yet almost every person who is new at this game and plays survivor will probably be playing with a friend that is more experienced and higher ranked, meaning that they will end up playing against more experienced killers.
The opposite is I've found a majority of new players to this game tend to immediately play survivor over killer, so there will be very few actual rank 20 killers. If you do come across a rank 20 killer it is probably a player who just hasn't played in a couple of months and their rank reset back down but they still have plenty of experience and perks.
Coming into this game as a brand new solo player is going to be rough at the start, it will be unfair for a lot of games. But eventually you will get better as you unlock more perks and just understand how to play the game, and understand maps better.
I recently got the Spine Chill perk which has helped me tremendously at predicting when and where the killer is coming from but once I get sighted it's all downhill from there and it's almost impossible to break sight.
I've stopped queuing as killer though because I just can't stand the long wait times. Half of the hours I have on the game are me just waiting for games (and then waiting in lobbies because people keep leaving).
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@Blueberry said:
I'm not gonna waste a lot of breath on a rant like this, but from someone who has played this game a lot to a new player.
Yes, the matchmaking is currently messed up. No, that isn't a balance issue, it's a matchmaking issue.
Killers seem strong at low ranks because the survivors there play dumb and don't know what they're doing. Once you get to high ranks survivors very much are the power role in this game. Killers are not even remotely close to "OP".
Youtubers put up games they do good in. You may see lots of games they slaughter but you also aren't seeing the 10 other games they got destroyed because those aren't getting uploaded. Don't base your opinion on videos.
TLDR: You just need more practice.
Your comment is absolutely no help and doesn't add to the discussion because
1) You called my discussion a rant
2) you've just repeated everything I've already said in my post
3) at the same time, you've completely disregarded yet also contradicted my mention of YouTube videos.
4) you told me to just git gud which is both a dick thing to say and completely unhelpful
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I don't know what the perk is called but there's a certain killer perk that, when a generator is completed, shows the auras of survivors within a certain range of that generator. Really helpful if more than one survivor is working on the same generator or if there are multiple generators close together and survivors are working on (or are near) them.
I also find that playing as Wraith is super easy for hunting down survivors and putting pressure all over the map. I'm new so I'm not all that experienced with the game but I've had a lot of luck with Wraith.
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@Rydog said:
This is a lot of perfectly reasonable criticism, and I hope you don't get shouted down by others. Dead by Daylight is very VERY hostile and unwelcoming to new players in numerous critical ways, and doesn't do remotely enough to build an inviting experience for them.
I'll admit it's not ALL bad. Just recently I was in another game (killer was again a much higher rank than me) and 2 teammates DC'd. Instead of killing us last 2 (which would've been a breeze because they were playing as nurse) they instead lead us to the last 3 gens and even let us escape. I was even being nice in return by standing still and letting them get a hit on me before I escaped. I would've let them hook me too but they didn't go for the slug. And they were also super nice in the chat at the end.
So I know there are some really nice players and I don't want people like that to think I'm lumping them in with the problems of the game. However, nice people like that are still so far outweighed by the real problems in the game.
I hope something changes soon or else I might just scrap the game altogether and sulk about my lost money.