gtVel

The current form of antialiasing is used as not only antialiasing, but as a workaround for texture transperancy iirc. That's why all hair is weird and super "pixely" when you disable it.

in Can you please fix this game's anti-aliasing? Comment by gtVel March 29, 2023

@Emeal said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3386210#Comment_3386210
and When is the reason/time to nerf engravings hypothetically?

There's no need for them to be nerfed? I've outlined why and how it's a bad thing from direct knowledge of how his power functions.

It's a set of challenge addons for the sake of a fun challenge. It makes him harder. He's not played by the casual community because the only alternative to curvebilly is only really double boots or lopro/doom. The speed and difficulty in chase is everything that makes him fun! High addon usage rate and the effectiveness is because he's currently designed to only be tolerable for the most dedicated of dedicated, and the solution is definitely not erasing the dedicated community. I can only imagine it's a situation of survivorship bais, and it's leading to the wrong changes happening.

This will mostly only kill billy for the dedicated remaining playerbase. He needs meaningful changes in so many other ways to make him enjoyable for the casual players, because these changes won't fix him being unfun for the average person.

in I have roughly 4500 hours in Hillbilly. Over half a year of my waking life on this killer. Comment by gtVel March 29, 2023

@Emeal said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3386164#Comment_3386164
That seems like a convenient excuse to me. But even so if you are THAT oppressive with Billy surely we would want to nerf that?
When is the reason to nerf engravings then I wonder?

You do realize that it's still incredibly easy to win against me as a survivor, right? I do get a LOT of kills, but I easily can have a higher winrate on many other killers who take substantially less time than 4500 hours. You have to play perfectly AS IS, to not mess up with what double engravings provide. And predropping/breaking for distance still absolutely destroys me, if someone's aware enough of pallet locations.

It's not an issue of me being too oppressive, I just know how to play the game REALLY well compared to everyone else. I'd have a higher killrate on huntress, nurse, blight, oni, or any other killer. The difference between those killers and billy, is that billy not only requires me to play damn near perfect, it ALSO requires them to just be aware and react to my curve starting. Lots of people never even look behind themselves, and they are generally the ones who give up instantly. I also happen to play at night, when less swf's are online and a lower population count, making the MMR a lot less strict.

Billy isn't oppressive. He just doesn't have to hit you twice if you don't pay attention, and he has to be VERY on point mechanically to do so. Do you really think removing the channels for high dedication in skill expression is something that should be removed, especially when it's not hard to play against in the first place?

Edit - Like, the entire reason my gameplay looks as it does is because I play this game intentionally to challenge myself and have been doing so for the entirety of my 6000+ hours in game. I've been intentionally looking for the hardest, but most fair stuff I can use. Billy really is what that is. I quit nurse after 1k hours with her, due to how easy it is to win. Her and many other killers just don't give any level of meaningful chase interaction once you're good enough with them, but Billy with doubles still gives meaningful agency to the survivor in chase despite my massive hourcount. It's high risk, high reward for BOTH sides, and requires a disproportionate amount more effort from me. I can't imagine anything more fair than that.

in I have roughly 4500 hours in Hillbilly. Over half a year of my waking life on this killer. Comment by gtVel March 29, 2023

@Emeal said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3385804#Comment_3385804
You claimed they would have a good reason for every change they make without providing evidence...
No im pretty sure that is a clear as an assumption, if you were unsure about that you can just ask. I don't assume bHVR is malicious.
So they probably have a good reason, seems weirdly strange to roll out the whole company arm for nothing. You tell me.
You claimed they would have a good reason for every change they make without providing evidence... Therefore that statement can be dismissed, same goes for things overperforming and therefore getting nerfed... That is also just an assumption, unless they stated that as the reason for toning down the addons...
Seems kind of weird do me that in a world of Video games and Video Game companies, they cant do changes to their videogames without me having to prove they are not malicious. I think that is rather bad standard, but the problem is you are only here to give me crap over me pointing out what was wrong with the other guys statements first. It IS trying to shift the burden of proof and its not on the topic either.
Like if you were really invested in finding out the truth, you would not waste time with me. I don't hold the stats either.
when you just claim stuff without providing evidence or at least a somewhat logical explanation for stuff then either the other team or the juror will just dismiss your argument that easily...
Yeah that might fly in debate club or British parliament, but to me who are invested in the topic it matters not. Its just shifting the burden of proof, which is a fallacy. To me you are clearly #5 in the following list and its a waste of my time on this topic.
bHVR is doing a mistake by nerfing the engravings.
What is the mistake?
The mistake is the engravings are fine, they don't need a nerf.
How do you know engravings are fine?
WHERE ARE YOUR EVIDENCE TO PROVE ENGRAVINGS ARE NOT FINE, MISTER-
You you want to goat at me, then goat.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3385895#Comment_3385895
You are replying to a covo I had with Xernoton's long post about addon, but mainly the last point he made that
Something performing the best does not mean it's overperforming. Billy isn't overperforming. Period. If he was we'd have seen that with the last kill rates or the ones before. Because since he has not received a single buff. Quite the opposite in fact. It's been nerfs and shadow nerfs as well as reworked maps, which are all horrible for him, no exceptions.
The point is, Statistics are worth looking at and that isn't just kill rates. But also downrates and many other rates, like I have even watched your streams during all this. Seeing how people self sacrifice vs you its pretty clear why they are nerfed. You move way to fast to give an avg. survivor a chance imo. Now if you want to convince me I am wrong about that assessment we can continue here. But I think we all rather want answers at this point and that means asking bHVR.

People self sacrifice because the game is fundamentally flawed and has had a skill drain issue due to the balance surrounding it. Generally, there aren't good billy players at this point. Nobody knows how to play around him, and generally, ANY oppressive killer tends to get people going next. Ralph, another streamer, gets it MUCH more often than I do when he's playing huntress. I play any killer besides basic m1 killers, and I still get it somewhat often.

That's why so many people give up. I ask all the time, and it's mostly because they got a bad match prior and didn't want to have to be so focused on the next match.

in I have roughly 4500 hours in Hillbilly. Over half a year of my waking life on this killer. Comment by gtVel March 29, 2023

And I've tested the addons, exactly what I described is the situation. Billy is now able to camp somebody for 80 seconds while revving with doubles, he has no high end skill ceiling, and overheat basically doesn't exist outside of circling the map with basekit/boots. Double engravings are basically unusable in chase. Muscle memory is also drastically different, which is a further thing to drive experienced players away from the killer.

The fun part about him, and the entire game, is the chase. He's balanced on a knife's edge with the movement speed gain/loss as is, if the engravings aren't kept the same rev time and movement speed, he basically can't curve against anyone experienced. It was possible before, if you were really good at billy. He's just extremely good at zoning + map traversal, and very little else.

He's stronger, yes, but he's stronger in every way that harms the game, and weaker in the way he adds to it best. Chase interaction is everything for what makes him fun, and there's very little of that now. \

in I have roughly 4500 hours in Hillbilly. Over half a year of my waking life on this killer. Comment by gtVel March 29, 2023

@Emeal said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3384926#Comment_3384926
I disagree, if an addon combo in particular is causing a high kill rate bHVR needs to bring out the hammer.
If not by that logic no addon could ever be nerfed.

Here's the thing, if you're good, double engravings are much easier to play around than most other addons. Double engravings are factually, not his strongest addons. They're the most fun and difficult, but definitely not the best. Never have been. So, what point are you trying to make here...?

in I have roughly 4500 hours in Hillbilly. Over half a year of my waking life on this killer. Comment by gtVel March 29, 2023

@Emeal said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3381750#Comment_3381750
Thats why theres such an uproar about this change: instead of going in that direction, theyre removing the possibilty for players to bridge that gap with skillful application of these addons themselves.
If an addon is overperforming, I don't see what you expect them to do. Besides I heard alot of Hillbillys in this chat saying they love "hard gameplay" so that would be exactly what you want.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3381752#Comment_3381752
but according to most, you are the minority. most people consider hilly billy a very fun killer to play against. you are literally one of the only people in this forum for the billy nerf
Yeah, this is something we hear a lot here. But do you have some studies to support that claim? besides your personal experience or if you are that streamer dude who only gets people coming in to throw roses as him-

The difficulty with billy directly comes from the movement speed. It's mechanical and mental difficulty from having to time everything right ON TOP of correctly guessing their actions.

This change doesn't make billy harder, just weaker. The interactive part of the power in chase is the high movement speed, high sensitivity window. Any slower directly hamstrings both the difficulty and strength. He won't have the ability to curve to the same capacity, and just have to use his saw for backrevving/zoning.

That's not skillful or difficult, just in the same way a killer like legion isn't really skillful or difficult. We're speaking about MECHANICAL skill, which is a very raw and direct thing. Aiming is another one. And just because something's being overused definitely doesn't mean it needs to be adjusted. People enjoy OPTIONS. Movement speed in chainsaw sprint directly results in more options. Same reason people use dead hard, but the difference is that you have to spend hundreds to thousands of hours to develop the muscle memory behind curving. And billy exists in a state where he can be tuned for new players because I do agree some changes should happen to make him more tolerable, but the movement speed reduction only cuts off the dedicated playerbase. Another note, that muscle memory? It's tied to the movement speed. Nerfing addons that people have had around for 7 years means that 7 years of muscle memory is being dropped. Those people aren't going to want to relearn a weaker, less interactive killer.

And the evidence for the last point you mentioned will never be enough, you're clearly discrediting that purely off of what you see as ego. You're not looking to have a conversation. And that's fine if you don't like me because you think my word may have some inherent bias, but let's refocus on the main point, alright? The mention of me streaming has zero relevance to any point in your eyes, but that's no reason to make snide comments. It shows nothing but bad faith.

in I have roughly 4500 hours in Hillbilly. Over half a year of my waking life on this killer. Comment by gtVel March 25, 2023

@Emeal said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3380904#Comment_3380904
Im certain if CS made a gun and people didnt get kills with it until after using it for 100h, then they would admit they made a mistake. but in DbD land you guys think that cause for celebration. (its not)

It takes significantly less than 100 hours to get a basic control of the chainsaw. I've literally taught people within a day how to control it in a basic sense.

in I have roughly 4500 hours in Hillbilly. Over half a year of my waking life on this killer. Comment by gtVel March 25, 2023

@not_requested49 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3379221#Comment_3379221
Wait, is OP well known or something?

Somewhat. Don't take this explanation as an ego thing.

I've been streaming exclusively billy nonstop for the past two years, running nothing but double engravings and for the first year, it was around 12 hours a day streamed on average. It's what I'm known for, because it's all I do constantly. I'm debatably the best at playing billy this way. (Tbh I think there are some others that are better, but I definitely have the most raw experience.)

Sure, this potentially poises a conflict of interest, but that would only realistically matter if I cared about winning in the slightest. There is the angle of "this impacts your job as a streamer so ofc you'd care", but I feel like that's obvious and proves my point as well. People want to WATCH fun stuff, and that's what's being removed.

I'm not well known to the broader audience of DBD, but your favorite content creator very likely knows of me.

in I have roughly 4500 hours in Hillbilly. Over half a year of my waking life on this killer. Comment by gtVel March 25, 2023

@AyyLmao said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3379877#Comment_3379877
Aww I just love how you've said were buds to try and cope. I don't know them, I just found it funny. But if they want to be buds with me they can. You can too :)
You made it known time and time again that "MANY HIGHLY HOURED PLAYERS" agree with you but sorry Jan. MANY HIGHLY HOURED PLAYERS, yours truly included. don't. Just because you have high hours doesn't mean you have higher priority over other players, nor does it make your opinion or takes correct.
Billy isn't dead, the addons are dumb and needed changing. It doesn't require thousands of hours to do like you imply and the devs are right in changing them.
You write so many absolutes and none of them are right lol. Game doesn't revolve around billy mains.

enough to be communicating in mcclean's discord, but like, all of this is irrelevant? like why do you care so much about the weird side details here

Billy will be significantly less interesting, that's the point being made. Less chase interaction, more backrevving, and significantly more m1s.

That's not something that can be denied. Forget what's been said, that point i'm making is what's important.