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i really would love both fnaf and scp, scp more though
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gonna need a team of elite scientists with 40 years of experience to decipher what in the bloody blue hell you just said
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"Most of the killers have 1 or 2 abilities some being more powerful than others. Huntress has 1 pretty bad ability so she rarely gets used in higher levels where as killers like nurse and trapper are still used with their 1 because it is a powerful ability." im sorry????
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@siren_sorceress said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1498902#Comment_1498902
"Only one sec chance perk" you have killer powers that insta down survivors. You have multiple perks that have insta down abilities.
Please, plenty of ways killers cut survivors health in half.
i never knew a power or perks like make your choice were second chance damn. a power is a mechanic for a killer, a perk is a side thing. a killer power cannot be a second chance its the power they have to use to win the game. lets look at all the "second chance" perks for killer
make your choice: a insta down perk. it dosent give a killer a second chance in anything. just downs
haunted grounds: a exposure perk that triggers at random. if you dont wanna experience just dont cleanse when you know theres no hex harming you. its that easy. it dosent give the killer a second chance therefore not a second chance perk.
devour hope: its a exposure that triggers when you do good in a game. it does not give the killer a second chance as it rewards you for doing good. thats if you can even get 3 stacks before its cleansed or when it gets cleansed at 3 stacks
rancor: it gives the killer a instadown mori on the obsession after gates are powered. second chance perks normally effect the entire team. the one kill doesnt matter as the other 3 would probably get out. you get a second chance at killing 1 person after the gates are powered thatll probably just hide once exposed.
and finally noed. the only second chance perk for killers: you get demolished and make it to the exit gate phase. you then have a second chance to win.
now lets look at instadown powers
billy: the way ur supposed to win
myers: the way ur supposed to win
huntress (iri head): the way ur supposed to win
bubba: the way ur supposed to win
pig: the way ur supposed to win
clown (pinky finger): the way ur supposed to win
ghostface: the way ur supposed to win
oni: the way ur supposed to win
so many second chances :)
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ormond has always been the worst and no matter what it always will
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honestly, ive always been on the fence about mori's being glory kills so i thought of a idea that would keep them good but not op
ivory memento mori: you may only mori one survivor once all 4 survivors have been hooked
ebony memento mori: you may only start mori'ng survivors once you have hooked 3 survivors once and one survivor twice.
as for everything else. im on board with it all except for the noed nerf. i want it left untouched until survivors have less than 283728187 second chance perks. i also dont agree with iri head, i dont want it to be completely useless but instead for skilled players. decreases hatchets by 2. survivors hit from 40 metres away with a hatchet get instantly downed. other than that everything is perfect.
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noed does not need any changes. its the only second chance killer perk while survivors might as well have only second chance perks.
ds shouldnt be removed, its just not used as a anti tunnel perk. thats the problem with it. if ds was used as a anti tunnel perk id be okay with it. however it is not used as a anti tunnel perk. people use it as a 60 second invincibility which is not okay. honestly i feel like this rework describes what i want ds to be
if a survivor with ds active touches a gen, totem, gets healed, another survivor gets hooked, or u jump in a locker then ds deactivates. ds has a 30 second timer but lasts forever when in a chase. this way itd actually be used as a anti tunnel perk and id be perfectly fine with it.
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might as well buff unbreakable while we're at it. Decisive is a perk that if anything needs a bit of a toning down. heres some examples as to how decisive is NOT underpowered
jump in a locker. if ur at 5-3 gens eat it. if you are at 2 gens eating the decisive will literally lose you the game.
lets say you ignore the decisive. that survivor will now work on a gen and you cant do anything about it. if you try to stop him he'll hop in the locker and you still cant do anything about it. you leave him for 60 seconds to do the gen. the gen then gets to 80%. by then another gen wouldve popped so technically all gates are powered.
59 second ds. heres a little example that actually happened. someone gets hit. runs over to a hook. saves a guy. you down the guy who unhooked. he then hits u w/ decisive. Congratulations! you just lost the game. for a perk thats meant to be "anti-tunnel" it seems to be doing everything else.
lets say you have a obsession perk like stbfl or theres 1 survivor who has ds. you now have to slug every single survivor cause you dont know if they have ds. slugging will add pressure but if its only 1 theres still 2 on gens. lets say the survivor has unbreakable too. pick up, and get decisived. slug and he picks himself up. only counter is to stand next to him and wait for ds to expire. that will literally throw the game. so you have to slug every survivor while they might have unbreakable. ds can hurt when its not even there.
anyways lets touch on "2017 was great for dbd". 5 blink nurse. nurse was only viable killer. infinites. toolboxes. no bloodlust. no entity blocker. instant moris. need i say more?
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its in no way competitive. rng just ruins it and until theres a actual competitive mode i will not deem it a competitive game
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theres no reason for doing gens. they are there for fun :)
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@Pior_Morte said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1491389#Comment_1491389
That would be my tier list, except by Legion (I would put him higher) and Bubba (he just came out so I'm still deciding were to put him)
bubbas viable addonless but isnt great, add-ons bump him up to B+ which is where i had him before that list
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@Pior_Morte said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1491149#Comment_1491149
The Tombstone Piece doesn't add any time, only the Ultra rares and the hair add-ons add more time to stalk so instead of 10 seconds to get to tier 3 it would be 20 seconds and you don't need the perks, but what I'm saying is that you should'nt be counting add-ons, only the basic killer, and with this you should down Wraith and Ghostface in the list. It's difficult to build a list counting add-ons because then Demoboi would be the worst since his add-ons does nothing and Clown would be higher with that busted piny finger, so just don't count them. I agree with a lot of your opinions and your tier list is great. Also you are unlucky.
i was thinking about deathslinger over gf but gf is more buggy so yeah
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@Pior_Morte said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1491149#Comment_1491149
The Tombstone Piece doesn't add any time, only the Ultra rares and the hair add-ons add more time to stalk so instead of 10 seconds to get to tier 3 it would be 20 seconds and you don't need the perks, but what I'm saying is that you should'nt be counting add-ons, only the basic killer, and with this you should down Wraith and Ghostface in the list. It's difficult to build a list counting add-ons because then Demoboi would be the worst since his add-ons does nothing and Clown would be higher with that busted piny finger, so just don't count them. I agree with a lot of your opinions and your tier list is great. Also you are unlucky.
yeah i realized how stupid the addon thing was so ill remake it, also ######### theres no stalk increase on tombstone piece? thats kinda busted
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@Pior_Morte said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1491042#Comment_1491042
With Myers you can go with Tombstone Piece + Infinite T3 and Infectious Fright/ Knockout/ M&A/ Corrupt Intervention, you get to tier 3, down 2 survivors and mori the 3rd, done, this is the strongest build with Myers and make him at the level of a Nurse (after the add-on nerf) with an Ebony Mori. As for the Pig its IMPOSSIBLE to get to the 4th/ 5th box while using Tempered Timer + Crate of Gears or Jigsaw Sketch respectively (assuming the key its on the last box and you are on a medium sided map), but as you said above Pig is RNG depended, so even with this build all survivors can get it on the first time, but with just the minimal luck you will have a "guaranteed" head pop in every match.
i dont really count perks, just addons cause those are a part of the killer, perks are just there. and tombstone piece + infinite t3 would have a hella build up time. i could see where ur getting at w/ myers being higher tho. from my experience with pig ive had people search all boxes with tampered timer on like coldwind from what i remember. rng is fun
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@faff said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1490802#Comment_1490802
if he's considering add-ons infantry belt + iri head huntress is pretty S tier.
this tier list was a bit ago and if i remade it the one thing id change would b huntress up to s, it was 3 am and i was tired tho so i just went w/ it
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@Pior_Morte said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1490772#Comment_1490772
If you don't have good add-ons AND good perks to wraith he is really weak, same thing with Ghostface he can only be A tier if you got one of the recharge add-ons. As for Legion the add-ons make him recover 0.2/0.4/0.6 faster which is HORRIBLE, if you combine the green and purple add-ons you reduce his main weakness by 1/4 and that is pathetic. If you are considering add-ons you can put Myers to S tier (stalk rate + duration add-ons) and put Pig to A tier (head-pop add-ons).
head pop addons dont really have much use on pig imo, the addon tampered timer makes it go from 2:30 to 2:00 which is still enough time to search all boxes unless u get a really ######### mothers dwelling, i can see ur point w/ myers but the only 2 addons thatll actually make him completely different is tombstone piece (better than tombstone) and tuft of hair, thats only 2 addons though so i bumped him from C to B, stalk addons are really nice too but not completely game changing
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@Veen said:
Pig is B tier, it's the people who play her who sucks.
shes rng based, i know her traps arent meant to kill but more add pressure but almost every time a survivor gets them off on their 1st or 2nd search for me which is still okay at best pressure but it isnt amazing, her dash is mainly utilized at short loops but if the loop is that short then whats the point? you can just hit em normally. although i have seen it come in use in other places but not often, i could see it being okay for mindgames too. trying to save stbfl stacks w/ it is a pretty good use as well. pig is best when she has 2 or more people with a trap on their head which still isnt the easiest. not to mention her addons might as well be nonexistent. thats what i think atleast
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@Pior_Morte said:
Overall this is a great tier list I would just change the Plague with the Demogorgon, Move the Wraith to "why would you play these killers" tier, and move the Legion to B+ tier. I assume you play on PC, but on console Legion is A tier and on PC I most of the time do well with him so just move him a bit, also I'm in red ranks in both platforms.
i only have wraith up at c cause of addons but i can see wym with plague and as for legion, i have him down there mainly due to the 4 second stun after his power gauge depletes and when he hits someone he loses a bit of his power, ik addons effect the stun a bit but its still pretty hefty
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yeah she is pretty fun i just dont think shes all that good
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I'm pretty sure the ranking system for SWF (which I am assuming this is) works like this: The matchmaking tenders towards the lowest rank survivor in the SWF (which I believe is stupid). You can get anyone within six ranks of the lowest rank player. The lowest rank survivor here is rank 4 and you are within 6 ranks of him. So you can get queued up with that. That or the comment above. Or maybe im just wrong.