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My girlfriend is a survivor main and survivors are even toxic to each other. They'll purposely sabotage her if she doesn't join the first party inv or will harass her after if she didnt kill herself for them
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I get ######### like this from one or more per match
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The minority is speaking for the majority here
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I don't know why people think because you're doing cosmic horror that you just gotta use old racist HP. Everything gothic doesnt have to be Edgar Allan Poe. You can have a nice chapter revolved around the entity instead of a lovecraft specific critter. Or since the next two killers are licensed; pennywise or a different Steven king's take on cosmic horror
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1478279#Comment_1478279
You can hate the human but love the art, I'm telling you lad, there is not one single old time artist, or widely acclaimed human in history that did no wrong. Ghandi ? Was actually terribly mysoginistic and racist. The Greeks, we owe them a lot for our modern world and culture, yet they were pedophiles. If you were to stop appreciating anything done by bad people you'd just hate everything.
Here's the thing people keep doing to justify him is "well it was in the past" yes it was but he was extremely racist even for his times. It's like saying "Hitler was as racist as everybody else". Yes everyone has done bad, but when it heavily out ways the good then yes we can hate them. Ghandi was racist but even he sent a letter to Hitler telling him to cool it. His actions outwayed his horribleness. HP didnt passively hate other racist; he would write and write about it, about aryan superiority and the like. Some of his horror stories were directly influenced by his fear of other races and power they held.
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1479244#Comment_1479244
Who cares, everyone was racist back then. We as a species are in the process of learning from that mistake. But that doesn't make his work any less valid. if you start looking at that then you'll won't have many people from the past you can like things about.
There's a high chance you have done or said something that will be considered offensive in a 100 years. Does that mean that your actions now can't have any meaning in the future?
As long as they don't bring the actual racist themes into the game if they make a Lovecraftian chapter, there is no problem.
His work was rife with his racism. Hence why I said if they want to do cosmic horror that they don't need to use his name and characters. It's like trying to remake a Birth of A Nation and claim "well it was played in the white house and its 100 years old so yeah its gonna be kinda racist." Without ever knowing what its about
@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1479244#Comment_1479244
Who cares, everyone was racist back then. We as a species are in the process of learning from that mistake. But that doesn't make his work any less valid. if you start looking at that then you'll won't have many people from the past you can like things about.
There's a high chance you have done or said something that will be considered offensive in a 100 years. Does that mean that your actions now can't have any meaning in the future?
As long as they don't bring the actual racist themes into the game if they make a Lovecraftian chapter, there is no problem.
https://lithub.com/we-cant-ignore-h-p-lovecrafts-white-supremacy/
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1479244#Comment_1479244
Who cares, everyone was racist back then. We as a species are in the process of learning from that mistake. But that doesn't make his work any less valid. if you start looking at that then you'll won't have many people from the past you can like things about.
There's a high chance you have done or said something that will be considered offensive in a 100 years. Does that mean that your actions now can't have any meaning in the future?
As long as they don't bring the actual racist themes into the game if they make a Lovecraftian chapter, there is no problem.
You are ignorant with how racist he was; he wasn't just old time racist. He actively wrote about how he liked and supported Hitler, he wrote about superior Aryan race. Wrote a poem about N(badword)rs. Are you saying we should forgive Adolf cuz its been 80ish years?
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Howard Phillips Lovecraft, the mastermind of cosmic horror, brought madness and existential dread to new heights. He ruptured the imagination in tandem with history itself becoming unimaginable in …
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People are so willing to ignore how much his racism effected his work cuz they like it... Oof.
You can make a cosmic horror chapter revolved around the entity without having a racist's name slapped on it.
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@cheetocultleader said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1473459#Comment_1473459
Unfortunately due to how rampant racism has always been (with some improvement the last 50ish years), if we were to drop every artist or deceased famous person in general who was proven to be -- you'd be missing a lot. Albert Einstein, who did amazing things for science, and even supported equal rights for people of color, was extremely racist towards the Chinese. He compared them to insects if I recall correctly.
Still, I admit I was really disappointed when I found out how bad Lovecraft was. I'm a huge fan of his work, and all of the games, movies, etc. it spawned.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471611#Comment_1471611
That's how I always describe the base lore to people. A creature that is some what God like (or alien) creates it's own realm in order to feed off of hope. It's perfectly Lovecraftian.
Edit: And to add, I think I seen on that contraband website they're bringing some shirts to the store in the near future that have "Kraken" in the titles. So perhaps that's their small way of marking it. I don't even know what they look like though.
Here's the thing though, his work was directly influenced from his racism. His work at 2 major influences; him being a shut in (so thusly the outside world is filled with horror) and his racism ( thats what made the outside world scary for him..)
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@Alice_pbg said:
Correct me if I'm wrong (I have yet to read the king in yellow) but isn't hastur BS op? like, how can the entity control him op?
that said, Hell yeah lovecraft chapter. would love it.
I wonder who the survivor could be... or the map... a museum maybe? (I played elder sign way too much... XD)
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1478211#Comment_1478211
everyone knows he was a racist piece of #########. even considering the time he lived in, he was still awful.
no need to bring it up.
Yes there is a need to bring it up because it would be in poor taste to make a chapter around a super racist while everything that's going on. His racism directly effected his work so you can't argue about distancing his views from his work because they influenced each other
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Anyone know HP Lovecraft's cat's name?