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@Uindangergurl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1375037#Comment_1375037
ti our a little more information out there. How are the survivors to know if the killer is a camper? Just do gens? It’s a team game and quite frankly a 5 man team game. First survivor goes down, chili which they all run will let him go to a survivor at gen. That survivors off...maybe even gets a hit. Then goes back to hook, another survivor off gen and possibly hit maybe he chases this one. Fourth survivor unhooks...killers aborts chase immediately and goes to unhooked survivor downs them. Chili goes off again....rinse repeat. 60 percent of my matches goes as such. Players are suggesting just leave them on they hook the first time? That’s how you beat a tunneler/camper? Most are suggesting to assume tunneling/camping are a given. I’m sorry but just how it is not fun to face amp as a killer...it’s just as not fun to gen rush and watch your teammates die. You do realize it’s a game? The OP and me having something in common....the world would be a much happier place if everyone behaved as we did.
also I quoted this post because we are on a thread about tunnneling and camping....and you suggest someone should stop looping, and let you hook them. Uh....in regards to the same logic that you are complaining about survivors discussing camping you state to just stop looping cause it’s wasting your time. What the actual? Where are the killers telling this poster that if you waste five min chasing one see I or you deserve to get gen rushed?
when I play killer I have two goals. BP and having fun, and Both are increased with not tunneling or camping.
@joshuashep22 said:
the amount of triggered killer mains ion this post is both disappointing and amusing, camping and tunnelling is a legitimate strategy sure but why should killers be rewarded for such a scummy strategy that sucks almost all fun from the game, if you camp and tunnel then don't complain when survivors use bt, ds, keys, deliverance, unbreakable and adrenaline
Exactly. And nevermind the killer one hit wonders...like Devour Hope, the killers and hexes that can mark you and make you exposed, like the two chainsaw wielding killers who can always take you down in one hit... I suppose that's all fair, but the small scale, 5 second window a survivor may gain with DS is totally unfair. Even with DS it only buys you so much time...usually only enough to run a few more steps. Smh. Get real.
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@Dwinchester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1375037#Comment_1375037
My dick levels are reactionary to how the survivors are playing. I've been getting matches here lately where the survivors are woefully outmatched, and I play extremely nice. Free unhooks, no tunneling, giving the last guy hatch, even farming a little before starting the massacre again.
Now if I'm getting gen rushed, or they're splitting up well, or if i get the sluntest whiff of toxicity, I will do whatever it takes to win, including tunneling and camping.
I do the same. The rank matching system is beyond fkd. That's generally what lands a team's loss when the camping and tunneling isn't happening.
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@Dwinchester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/163996/campers-and-tunnelers-on-blast
Let's be clear here, survivors have the advantage in this game. Against even an average team, you can't play fair and win, there just isn't enough time to win 24 chases. The killer community warned people that scummy play would happen if the ruin nerf went through, they weren't bluffing.
I get that it's frustrating, but getting a swf bully squad, running every 2nd chance perk in the game, plus purple flashlights with odd bulb is 10 times worse.
As a rank 10 killer, you have no earthly idea what it's like to play strong survivors, so it's easy to sit back and judge. Once you've gone against 15k hour team, or lose in 5 minutes flat to a gen rush squad, or bullied to the point of just standing in the corner, then you can judge.
So yeah, my best advice is to main killer till you reach red ranks, then you might understand why so many play this way.
I love your name. But I don't think that survivors have the upper hand. I understand the SWF #########, it's happened to me while playing as a killer. I however, don't play like a dick when I'm a survivor either. I know I can't speak for everyone, I know survivors can be dicks too. But someone on here said that everyone should just playing like dicks and I agree. If we all stop being ######### and stop taking out what the devs do on each other in frustration, the whole game would be better.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1375023#Comment_1375023
You are allowed to try to do something, but you're not supposed to be able to do it 100% of the time. You have a chance. That's it.
That's the whole point...you don't get that chance at all when the killer is camping. Especially if they're playing with Hillbilly or Leatherface.
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@CriminalMind_ITA said:
Damn, survivors can only cry
We literally get bullied, and you guys cry because we tunnel?
And call it cheating too?!
Damn ahahaha
Lol yes. Yeah, survivors bully killers because we can hurt them in so many ways and literally eliminate them from a match altogether.
Let me know which survivor you play with that can do anything besides TEMPORARILY blind the killer or TEMPORARILY stun them...I need that character in my life.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1375008#Comment_1375008
Yes, you are doing something wrong, which is believing that just because you want to do something, you should be able to, no matter what the killer is doing. As a survivor, you are the victim. The killer is supposed to be able to stop you from doing things. If you want to be in a position of power, you play killer instead and hope you don't get a SWF death squad.
My only complaint about camping and tunneling is that teammates like you reward killers for them. You think I liked being killed in 30 seconds after successfully evading a Huntress the entire trial because my teammates just couldn't help themselves from unhooking in her face? No, but I don't blame the Huntress for playing smart and going after the easy target, I blame the teammates for feeding.
Not at all true. I don't believe I should be allowed to do something just because I want to, I believe you should be allowed to do something because you're suppose to. Because it shouldn't be an issue...
So if I'm doing something wrong because I'm not a d*ok then I suppose you're right...
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374996#Comment_1374996
So how come your teammates don't get tunneled when you unhook them? Clearly you must be doing something wrong.
PS: You don't define what "cheating" is, the devs do. It's their game, their rules.
Not what I said nor was it even implied. They will literally tunnel someone and/or camp them, whoever they happen to get down first, until they're dead. As said person's teammate, I try to help them. This most often leads to me being the next target. Or whoever they choose. So yeah, I guess in that case, I must be doing ALL the things wrong.
The devs may not consider it cheating but from what I've read, they also highly frown upon it. Hence the fact that you get a penalty, however slight that is, for doing it. Apparently it isn't enough to deter it because here we are. You can defend it all you want. It is still an extremely crappy way to play.
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@Sylorknag said:
The only thing that is uncalled for and unfair, and quite literally sanctioned cheating is SWF, which the game wasn't fking balanced for.
Tunneling and camping are legit strategies that will, more often than not, make the killer lose.
Do gens and stop whining.
Okay but in my case? I play with one other person or I play alone. So that theory doesn't fit here. I'd do gens and stop whining if killers wouldn't tunnel.
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@Orion said:
Making you lose in certain ways is not cheating. It might be annoying, but that's losing. If you don't want to be camped and tunneled, I recommend learning how to hide from the killer instead of looping. It does wonders for me.
I hide pretty well too. But one of our objectives as survivors is to help our teammates...which almost always gets me hooked. And, especially lately, once I'm hooked I'm tunneled until I'm dead. Same goes for most other survivors, granted the fact that they're actually good and helpful teammates. It is cheating if you continue to tunnel someone or camp them on the hook and keep their teammates from helping them or giving them a chance at all just so you can get your kill. Idk, I guess I'm just not as selfish and douchey like some people.
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@OhMyWords said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374860#Comment_1374860
I'll post a discussion about it later today. It's completely unrelated to the topic of this discussion.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374876#Comment_1374876
I didn't mean to bully this user. If you think any of what i said is bullying, chances are you are sensitive or haven't seen other people who act the similar way in posts like these. Those people tend to get lots of upvotes by saying such things; you can't miss them.
And that's exactly why they do it-attention. I guess since they all have the toxic factor in common, they want to stick together. It's cool, they can cheat and play however they want. But what's funny is these same people who play like jerks say it's because they're just doing their job as a killer but complain about a survivor doing survivor things...they're just doing their job too, right?
And I don't feel bullied. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Some just Express it more...colorfully than others.
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@DeadByFreddy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374925#Comment_1374925
same, I don't mind losing. But I like to win by playing fair. I am only rank 8/9 killer. I don't play survivor. I do enjoy intense games, 10 hook actions is good lol
Exactly. Some people take this whole thing so seriously. I do too, but not so much that I try to take away from everyone or take the fun out of it because I played unfair. Besides, if I win, I want it to be because I played fair and did it on my own. That's way more rewarding than camping and getting easy kills. That's when you can actually know that you're the better player, at least for that match lol.
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@Swiftblade131 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374925#Comment_1374925
Right...
Not saying you have to tunnel all game or even camp. But you don't get to call out people who do it. It's a play style/strategy whether you like it or not.
In certain scenarios you do have to tunnel or "camp" as it were. Not all game. But when survivors are bum rushing the hook, you just gonna walk away or "camp" and punish them?
That's completely different. I know that so many people complain about this same thing, the difference is that I actually know what camping is. I actually know what tunneling means. I'm not complaining about it to just be complaining or because I want easy wins. I'm complaining because it's legit a problem and it makes the whole game just a sh*tty experience.
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@Swiftblade131 said:
Someones never played killer past rank 20
Actually, killer rank 10. And that's because O main survivor and play fairly as a killer. I'd rather lose by playing fair than to win playing like a jerk.
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@DeadByFreddy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374827#Comment_1374827
I disagree. It seems I get 30k+ more easily by not camping. Tunneling all good. Slugging, viable. But camping as a killer is a good way to depip.
I have multiple screenshots on my steam of people saying the game was fun, gg, intense ect by not camping them. Camping is what you do before you learn the game and realise it doesn't get you points.
If you camp 1 kill, the survivors will do 4 gens in that time. If you let them be unhooked you can damage gens, get another chase... which distracts the survivors from objectives, buying time and also gains more points.
THIS! Like I said, I main survivor but I play as a killer pretty often. You get so much more accomplished and so many more points by not camping. It also evens out the pointing process and gives everyone a fair chance to level...to gain something out of the game. I get that a killer's objective is to, well...kill, but that doesn't mean you have to make playing the game miserable for everyone else.
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@batax90 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374846#Comment_1374846
When i play killer i get point by kicking a gen so if im closing in to the generator survivor are working on by your logic they should stop doing the gen so i can kick it but instead if the gen is almost done they finish it in my face so i lose my precious point because of that so i will still use your logic that is call cheating in a scense because they deny me of my precious point
Nope. Because you can actually grab them off the gen without chasing them ot knocking them down...so yeah, nope...not the same.
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@Nurgling7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374875#Comment_1374875
And Survivors are fully capable of finishing the gens in under 5 minutes. Making the killer lose bloodpoints, rank progress, and any addons they brought in. Is that also cheating?
Okay, maybe so...but how often does this actually happen? Killers have all the means to stop survivors without playing dirty.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374818#Comment_1374818
The man has a right to post, I would agree with the cheating part
From the way he says things and if you look at his amount of posts, you can clearly see he's new and doesn't know much, so give the man some slack... (he doesn't understand tunnneling / camping, they are not bannable but they are scummy and very much hated when done without a strategy in mind, he's probably a low rank survivor as well, low rank killers are more inclined towards these tactics)
So... Who are you again? No need to bully the newcomers...
While I appreciate your sentiment, but I'm a girl. And while I may be new to the forums, I'm not at all new to the game. I'm a rank 4 survivor.
I can handle being bullied. Especially playing this game lol.
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@Nurgling7 said:
If camping and tunneling isnt fair, even cheating, what on earth is Survivors' version of playing fair for the killer? Not touching a gen until you've done a totem and searched a chest? Or maybe not until you've run a lap around the map first?
If its cheating unless you hook each Survivor as many times as possible and allow for saves uncontested, seems fair to me that Survivors should allow chases uncontested by gen progress too.
Actually, I usually take a minute to work on gens... mainly because I want to get a feel for what I'm up against. Killers can see all the gems, and can patrol them to keep them from getting finished. They can run ruin and discord among other perks. Some killers can knock you down in one hit, some killers can mark you and expose you so they can knock you down in one hit. Killers can actually hurt you and eliminate you from the game completely, causing you to lose bloodpoints, rank progress, and even your item you brought in. Survivors literally have very limited options. If you have to camp for kills, then get better or don't play.
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@Freesham said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374858#Comment_1374858
This pretty much. Also if you're desperate enough to not get tormented, you can always run away from the loops that PH makes trails at, and take the M1. That way you always have your DS available when you get unhooked.
DS is almost literally useless...it's pretty much no different than dropping a pallet to stun. I ran DS to try to combat being tunneled and it is just useless.
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@OhMyWords said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1374835#Comment_1374835
It's not like that. I don't care about your opinion. I use this account for no reason but soon i will use it to make my voice heard. The reason i called my reply a mistake is because at this rate im looking for a fight, which means looking for a ban. I don't want to get censored before speaking my opinion. Posts like yours tend to get bad, and that is why i said i am looking for a fight (just above). The last one i was in got deleted. If i get banned without saying my opinion again, then i wont feel bad since they probably dont care anyways. This forum is practically useless. This is simply an echo chamber.
I see. And I can dig it.
So what, exactly, is your opinion?
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@SewerSwans said:
Doing this is fairly pointless, given the many killers who use these strategies, and will likely get you moderated.
Separate from that, if a freshly unhooked player doesn't bother healing & works on a vital gen, what do you expect me to do? Let them use chivalry as invincibility, walk all over me and win, because otherwise that's tunneling? I'm assuming you're using the broadest sense of these terms given how you seem to feel.
No disrespect, but don't assume. And no, I don't consider that tunneling. If a freshly unhooked player has the time to do anything else at all, that's not tunneling. I'm talking about being unhooked just to get knocked RIGHT back down and hooked again. I'm talking about literally standing by a hooked player and not letting any if their teammates attempt to save them. That's also how a survivor gets points... so yeah, it's unfair and just cheating. Survivors can't do anything to a killer aside from a pallet or flashlight. There's literally no need to camp unless you just can't play.
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It is. It's like Pyramid Head gave the okay for people to play like a**holes and it's crap. I've noticed that EVERY single person I've been in a match with who is playing as PH has camped and tunneled and just made the whole game experience crappy. It makes it unfair for everyone and not fun in the slightest this is one my favorite games and I've considered just not playing anymore altogether. It's not just PH either, I've noticed it's just gotten so much worse all the way around.
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I'm sick of killers thinking it's cool to camp and play dirty. There's a "time out" for disconnecting, but it's totally okay to play like a weiner when you're the killer. And none of it's considered a reportable offense. I get that the whole dc thing is annoying af, but so is a dirty killer. I play as both and I don't play like a douche in either instance. It seems to have gotten way worse since the penalties are back in play. I feel like if you want to get away from a toxic player you should be able to. It sucks that crybabies who abuse the option to leave the game affects everyone else. If I'm playing as a survivor and a killer wants to face camp me, hit me repeatedly, and block any of my teammates from rescuing me I'm suppose to just deal with it I guess because it's completely okay. Smfh. Whatever.