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@Mandy said:
If you unlink the accounts, everything you earned whilst your accounts were linked stays on the Behaviour account, your Steam account will go back to what it was at the time of linking.
So just to confirm, if my steam account goes back to what it was at the time of linking, my steam's still connected to my behaviour so all the stuff I grinded after linking my accounts + everything I had prior should be safe?
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@Ghost_Face_Main said:
-Predator is highly unlikely due to how they usually hunt their prey. They also have their own game.
-Pennywise is another big NO, simply because his power would be related to shape-shifting, which wouldn't work vs a comms SWF.
Jason Voorhees is highly likely to happen...if he was legally available.
-Candyman is a likely candidate for the next licensed chapter
-Pinhead is another choice, but less likely than Candyman
I would personally like to see RESIDENT EVIL make an appearance in DBD
The next original killer I'm hoping for is something like an insectoid or an Egyptian killer.
Pennywise does more stuff then just shapeshifting, devs said that its their dream license, if they can get ahold of them, they will.
A better argument for predator would be he's more action oriented then horror, if DBD wanted Predator they wouldn't go "ah but his hunting style makes it difficult guess we cant"
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@Lexilogo said:
IIRC Behaviour only have the rights to the first Texas Chainsaw Massacre film. Leatherface has gone through redesigns mild and extreme in pretty much every entry, so there's lots of material to draw off for redesigns. However, Behaviour would have to nail down the rights to adapt elements from those movies as well to update Leatherface.
I believe the Texas Chainsaw franchise is currently owned by Legendary Pictures, which poses a bit of a problem as I believe BHVR haven't worked with them on anything else. A lot of the crossovers we get nowadays are thanks to contacts BHVR have already made, but Legendary Pictures would be new. Doesn't mean it'd be impossible, but it makes it less likely.
I'm also not sure that if BHVR managed to contact Legendary and get the thumbs up, that they'd be able to legally draw on previous Texas Chainsaw movies for cosmetics.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1202868#Comment_1202868
Freddy's kind of a special case, from my understanding Wes Craven's estate and New Line Cinema are currently engaged in something of a rights dispute over the character (I believe NL Cinema have international rights to Freddy and Wes Craven's estate has the USA's rights to Freddy) so Behaviour don't actually have someone they can ask for permission for Freddy-related stuff. (this is also the reason Freddy's not on Switch, apparently)
Anyway, with all that said, yes, I am 100% with you that I want more cosmetics for the licensed characters too. I'm quite happy we've gotten some over time, and Leatherface was lucky enough to have some starting off, but I would quite like to see more and there's no shortage of material to draw on for cool cosmetics.
Freddy isn't just due to the issues with the craven estate. New Line were incredibly strict and firm when making freddy, it was obvious that they weren't to interested in it in the first place. Hence why we got reboot freddy, why we didn't get Elm St on the "Nightmare on Elm St chapter", why we didn't get Nancy etc. My friend says it's similar with NECA figures as well.
The devs when talking about stranger things were saying that Netflix was a LOT easier to work with then other licenses they've worked with and were open to ideas unlike specific licensees who wanted their work done in one specific way only. It was obvious they were mostly talking about New LIne, Leatherface they were at least fine with adding the custom faces and Freddy everything is so oddly out of place.
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@Seiko300 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1142584#Comment_1142584
Journalist archetype
This is something that bugs me a little bit and I wrote about awhile ago, the investigative journalist archetype is something that feels a bit overplayed / overdone in Dead By Daylight. It makes for a perfect story in horror movies "The investigative journalist won't stop at anything to find a good story, but she bites off more than she can chew after uncovering a dark secret..." so when Dead By Daylight is an amalgamation of all these different horror stories and many of them have the same investigative journalist role you can see how they might end up with more of that than any other type of character. This sticks out all the more when BHVR for the most part, has done an absolutely fantastic job at creating unique characters with every single new chapter release after 3 years (4th anniversary will be in June) and 15 chapter releases.
If you go back even further Dead By Daylight's entire lore hinges on this character archetype and the one who started it all was Benedict Baker who was conducting an investigation into the Entity and the abandoned ghost town of Weeks.
My point being, it's not a good thing. We don't want to see repeated character archetypes and just because two characters might share similarities doesn't make free real estate to continue repeating characters and stories. It makes them the exception rather than the rule, and I think everyone can agree we want as absolutely diverse cast as possible. Saying we can add even more characters who fill the same role just because another was recently added who shares similar characteristics with one who currently exists is just an excuse.
Randy's significance (Vs. David Tapp)
As well, Randy didn't exactly die very early in the franchise when you consider that the story was meant to be a trilogy. On a personal level I'm a fan of all the movies but I understand when a decent chunk of people say that they didn't pay attention to the fourth, some go so far as to say they didn't pay attention past the first and everything after that didn't live up to the original's legacy. He was a re-acurring character for the trilogy and that's what counts.
On top of this, if you think Randy isn't as iconic why don't you talk to SaW fans when they realized that Detective David Tapp was the survivor for that chapter?? The SaW franchise is ######### 8 movies long at this point with a 9th currently on the way, and the character they picked from the entire convoluted timeline was one who died in the very first ######### movie. Compared to the role Randy plays in Scream Detective Tapp is absolutely insignificant, completely and utterly inconsequential in every possible sense. Randy plays a key role in the survival of the main characters in Scream even AFTER he's dead in the third movie when they discover he left behind a tape recording of him explaining the rules of a trilogy. Tapp has barely any real significance in the one movie he shows up in and he has absolutely no impact on any film that came after for the rest of the series.
Keep in mind this is a film series who's timeline is so convolutedly full of secrets that it turns out one of the main characters (Doctor Lawrence Gordon) from the very first movie (the same movie that Tapp appears but has no significance in) actually turned out to be a secret antagonist working behind the scenes for Jigsaw for the next six movies until his role in the jigsaw murders was finally revealed in Saw 7 out of ######### nowhere. So it's not like Tapp couldn't have been written in as a more important character later on down the line, he just wasn't and was promptly completely forgotten about until Dead By Daylight picked him up.
PS.
I have no idea where you got the idea that Dwight is a nerd, just because he wears glasses, a tie, and a button up shirt that makes him a nerd?? Sure, on the surface he may look the part but his character is clearly described in the lore as having Grades that were "Distinctly below average". That immediately takes him out of the running for taking the role of the nerd archetype in Dead By Daylight, on the other hand Claudette definitely fits the nerd category. Regardless of what field of study she's into (Nerds are not specific to Math or technology: In this case she has an affinity for Biology - specifically Botany) she's very smart (her lore describes she earned an "early scholarship at a great college" in her original bio she is described as being "introverted [by] nature" and "Her brilliance provided her with a social handicap" This was reconfirmed 3 years later when Tome I was released and the archives described her as more or less a social outcast in elementary school. All of these are trademark characteristics of any classic Nerd character in popular culture.
A "Caring environmentalist" is not an archetype, at least not in horror movies. That doesn't mean characters who care for the environment don't show up, it means that they're far less common to constitute having an entire archetype, and likely would still fall under the role of a nerd in their story. Examples of archetypes in these kind of stories are "The Jock (often athletic, but not very smart), The Nerd (often intellectually savvy, typically lacks social skills), The popular girl (Often very pretty or beautiful and well respected by her peers for superficial reasons, usually arrogant or stuck up) The Nice guy (your average "nice guy" who is nice to the other characters in the story, doesn't stick out too much, sets a baseline for the audience to connect to and typically tied to the main character or has a leading role in some way), the rebel (A badass who cares mostly about themselves but later revealed to care about others to some degree, holds disregard or disdain for laws, rules, or convention, has a penchant for Leather clothing), etc.
This comes to Randy's archetype: The Geek. Closely correlated to the Nerd but without the downsides, they are typically defined by being smart (though not as smart as the Nerd) but are very capable in social situations, though might still be social outcasts to a certain degree. Often Witty or funny, their knowledge extends widely into popular culture such as movies, (video / board) games, celebrities, etc. making them very knowledgable about the climate they live in. I don't know about you but there isn't a single character in DBD that I can think of that truly embodies and embraces these characteristics which is why I would so look forward to Randy being introduced.
Or, BHVR could come up with their own original character who happens to be a geek. In which case the numerous paragraphs I have written arguing why Randy should make it in will be all for naught. Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sorry for late response my DBD forums was ######### and didn't let me view your reply lol.
Also yeah, as someone who is a fan of saw and know a lot of people also fans of saw, we were all ######### pissed when we found out Tapp was the survivor I 100% agree. That's why I put Adam on this list, while still being in the first movie only, he is far more iconic and popular then tapp. The saw series doesn't have that much recurring major characters besides all the main antagonists (John, Amanda and Hoffman) anyway. Tapp was also the protagonist in the Saw game but I wouldn't say that means much tbh lol.
I mean Dwight's lore in the literal first sentence it reads "Dwight was geeky and scrawny through high school". I can't find anything linking dwight with having low grades but even if that was the case I'd argue that the geeky and nerdy archetype doesn't require you to have the high grades and more relies on the scrawny appearance and his hobbies which we don't know enough about dwight.
Tapp, a character who will stop at nothing to uncover the dark secrets would also fit into that investigative archetype. I remember the enviornmentalist being a character in a few horror movies (can't remember any specifically besides Leprechaun Returns.), just someone who cares a ######### ton about the enviornment and get mad over someone smoking or stepping on a flower etc. Eliane from Seinfield would be a good example of this, despite it not being a horror series. Though there are a lot of contradicting archetypes or archetypes that aren't really common in horror movies. Quentin I'd say is also a lone wolf like Jake, Ash while his character was developed, in the first movie he was a final guy, and I can't think of any horror movies where a japanese streetracer, a british streetfighter, a pro gamer, a teacher (as a main character that is) or a gambler are very common. If you were to just lessen Feng's archetype to just a gamer couldn't that be considered a geek as well?
Limiting licensed survivors to archetypes just feels too difficult seeing how many of the iconic characters from other horror movies have similar archetypes. RJ Macready and Tommy Jarvis would be too similar to Ash. Marion Crane (Psycho),Helen Lyle (Candyman), Sidney Presscott, Ellen Riplee (Alien), Kirsty (Hellraiser) would all be too similar to Laurie, that's why it is a cliche.
Sidney could be seen as a girl with a past (her mother dying) that continues to haunt her maybe? It doesn't have to be just about the fact she's a final girl.
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@Shin_Vertigo said:
I'd say Pinhead would be good, but we already just got a chain killer so that might not happen. Candyman could have a cool ability as well. Honestly I'd rather see something original right now though. A Mummy killer could be cool, and its power could be cursing a survivor which could almost be like madness from Doc. Also looking forward to a vampire, skeleton, zombie, or werewolf. To be honest The Thing could be really cool, as long as what it turned into was somewhat restricted. It would be like prop hunt for survivors, except the prop would be hunting them. (Maybe could also turn into another survivor with a small terror radius).
As much as I love the thing, I think R.J Macready alone would be good enough from the series. There's no possible way the devs can animate the thing to the point where it would be respectful to the license, it can't have a default walking animation like all the rest and SWF would kind of ruin it. Macready would still work perfectly, They should leave the thing to AAA companies for its own game
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What's with the random as hell options? Just feels more like your favourite shows or movies rather then what fits best/ most popular. My personal choice would be Norman Bates from Psycho or Bates Motel. Jason, Pinhead, Pennywise and Candyman wouldn't be too bad either
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@Seiko300 said:
Sidney Prescott is iconic I'll give you that, but I'm voting for Randy far, far, far, far, far more than I'm voting for Sidney Prescott.
To me every survivor represents an archetype. Meg is the athlete, Claudette is kind of a nerd, Jake is the lone wolf (even though this is Ash's description it fits Jake better if you've seen the show), Dwight is the nervous leader, Jeff is the gentle giant, Ace is the lucky gambler, Nea is the rebel, Steve Harrington is the (former) Jock, Nancy wheeler is the amateur Journalist with a sense for a good story, Jane is the celebrity, David Tapp is the obsessed cop, David King is the ######### / bully (this is how he is described by the devs in the stream when he first cam out), Feng Min is the gamer, Kate Denson is the free spirit, etc.
The important thing to note here is we've already got a character who fits the Final Girl archetype. Laurie is the Final Girl, so it doesn't make sense to have a second. I'd much rather have Randy because he represents a popular character archetype that we haven't seen yet before: "The Geek" or as I like to call him (because it's Randy) "The Horror Specialist"
Randy knows everything there is to know about Horror movies, that's what makes him so interesting a character in the context of the Scream films. He knows the tropes and he's the one who's got all the information about what is going down based on prior knowledge. Plus Randy is objectively the best / most interesting / most personality driven character from Scream let's be honest, there's a reason fans were so sad / outraged when he died in the second film, so much so that he still made it into the third movie despite his death.
I've been rooting for Randy for a long time now, which makes a lot of sense because one of the primary motivators he's given in the second movie shortly before his death is that he always plays second fiddle. The killer taunts him that he'll never be the leading man, he'll never get the girl, he's only an expendable character, and this makes him a character that I feel fits way too well with the types of stories Dead By Daylight tells with their characters to pass up.
Well isn't Zarina sorta a lot like Nancy then? I know she is a filmmaker rather then a journalist but they are incredibly similar.
I'd like if Randy and Sidney come into the game though if I were to choose one, I'd say Sidney especially seeing how it plays with the fact that no matter how far Sidney tries to run from her demons, they still follow her. She moves away, she lives in the secure house, she stops the Stab franchise from continuing her story, the entire plot of Scream 4 etc, I think the fact that even after death/ going into the entity's realm she still is haunted by her past.
Randy died very early in the franchise so is nowhere near as iconic, and I'd argue that his archetype is just a subsection of a nerd being a film nerd (Scream 2 he was in film studies at uni talking about The Godfather). Personally I'd also disagree and say that Dwight is more of the nerd despite his lore saying he's a nervous leader due to his complexion, hobbies and his history of being bullied. Claudette I think is more of a caring enviornmentalist or basing off her lore, someone just wanting to fit in which is different to a nerd.
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@HauntedMandalorian said:
Definitely Sidney Prescott! She's the missing link.
Sidney can definitely be a solo chapter, it doesnt have to include ghostface, just a chapter similar to how they did with Ash vs The Evil Dead, maybe they can make it so then it comes with the Scream ghostface cosmetic (the classic one we have in game and the one from Scream have a LOT of differences)
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I know this is late but I'd love this idea. Personally I'd think it would just work better as a solo survivor though, and maybe Leaven would be better for the survivor, seeing how Kazan is very autistic, and it wouldn't make sense for him to be running around like you see DBD survivors do.
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@Boosted_Dwight said:
Why don't survivors have themes anyway? It would give them more personality imo
Especially Ash and Laurie in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6P7UZQ-mOE laurie also has a theme