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The roles are very different so I would say this:
Survivor: You are a part of a team so making sure other survivors also get out is important. If all survivors were selfish then escape rate would be really bad. Care for your teammates but never be toxic towards the killer!
Killer: You play in a one man team. There is no reason to care about others if you play killer. That said you should play to win (tunneling, camping is ok) but never be toxic in any way.
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Killers are always leaving and so are survivors. But since we also always get new players this is not a problem.
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Because the game is ment to be killing, not spread hooks. Just like survivors should "gen rush" not hide.
And your "the way killers play now" is almost like you blame players and not the game. Don't do it.
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It's sad that only a small group can test these things on PTB, and that devs listen to them. We should all try it first and have our say. It's like 10% could vote in the world and the rest has to hope these 10% are normal people.
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These people only care about themselves and they want clicks. Devs should just do their thing and change things they see don't work, not listening to these types going for clicks on their videos.
Nerf content creators!
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I have no problem with it. People dislike all words today you can't call things this or that. How about relaxing a bit? Or if relaxing is not a term you like..chill? Unwind?
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Then don't read it and don't kill survivors if you are sensitive to evil people and monsters lol
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People was fed up getting destroyed by Billy after Billy same killer every game using same OP addons. Oh wait that was a dream.
Hag nerf is worse she is not in a good place and now everyone can take her power away. What a mess.
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Every update people say it's the worst. Then after they play it people change their minds mostly. It's going to happen now also. Both sides get nerfs and buffs..this is good. Problem is survivors only see their nerfs and same do killers. But this will never change.
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Avoid politics and be nice. Now you are safe :)
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Hag deserves so much better she is quite uniqe but has not been given any love from devs like ever?
Hag is much weaker than people think. All the A or B-tiers she is getting is not deserved Hag is mediocre at best. A good team calling her out early will bully her more than they could any other killer in the game.
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Tofu was always overdramatic but here he is just over overdramatic. I will slap on Inner Healing and Bond they were always good and slam gens now that COB and Pain will be dead. Us solos are still in a lot better place now with all the gen infos. Some just likes to complain and can't see both sides of things. Both killers and survivors got buffs and nerfs, and both sides are complaining lol
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@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3381604#Comment_3381604
I think Killers, as a whole, will be MUCH stronger.
The VAST majority of players are extremely uncomfortable playing injured.
It's gonna be 2018 DBD but with the competitive mindset of 2023 DBD.
So healing will be longer and gens will go faster. It's not good on any side but no way will killers be stronger then now. Inner healing will be more popular perhaps that is a fast heal and with Bond you can always find survivors if you can't do gens injured which is mostly a low MMR problem with survivors always wanting to heal.
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Inner Healing is still there? I mean why would it be bad? You still rush gens to get out like before. With all gen info we have now solo is fine. And killers lost a lot of gen defence. It's all good.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
Because there's another key component they're missing out: buffing weaker perks, too.
It's all well and good when you take everything that's at the top and nerf it, but without giving other weake perks compensatory buffs it runs the risk of making the entire game feel somehow even more stale.
They changed 2 weak perks this update. 2.
Yes I agree this is what we miss. Nerfing strongest perks is very good but last time we got new strong perks from earlier weak perks. We should have seen like four weak perks never used on both sides buffed to top 10 strongest perks.
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@Emoba said:
It wasn't excepted. Literally nobody asked for it to be nerfed again, not even the most hardcore survivor mains. This whole update is pure insanity anyway.
But we have all more or less wanting meta shifts in the game not having the same perks again and again. So in this sense everyone have asked for nerfs to this perk and gen kick perks, DH, COH and so on.
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It's meta shift and we all want that yes? No matter if you think DH is the strongest perk in the game or not we can all se that it's used a LOT, which is not fun. But for killer players seeing more SB, toolboxes and "gen rush" builds instead I'm not sure killers should be super happy about this update coming.
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Good points I think with faster gens No Way Out will still be used a lot and perhaps Noed since killers will count on fast games. And Inner Healing yes I like that perk playing survivor and it will be stronger now, without buffs so to say. And going strong on gens early with a strong toolbox is something we should see more of.
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@Caiman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3377739#Comment_3377739
This isn't PTB, this is live.
Oh have not played in a couple of days. My bad!
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Not this again 😐️ We know it did not work
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I dodge lobby as killer if survivors are low level and have no items because that's mostly a SWF team in disguise. Then dodge if I see toolboxes, mekits or high level players. Had the game for years and have still not played a single game only been lobby dodging.
Ok that was a joke but my point is if you dodge a lobby a lot of the times you think the match will be more easy when it's the opposite. Yeah killers wants to avoid SWFs and solos like me I dodge when I see these PC players with very childish gamertags I don't want to play with or against these kind of people.
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Need less gen defense and more chase power. And I can't even play PTB but just reading the changes I know it.
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Nah no kicking that would be strong but the survivors should perhaps be able to t-bag on hook if killer is standing still..would look funny and a bit painful perhaps.
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Or just make the perk basekit but not working at all when someone is hooked. Would be more exciting as survivor since some killers would just stand quiet sometimes and jump scare you 😀
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No please I love being chased by Bubba not knowing what will happen if I go down..it's exciting! It would take away any respect I have for Bubba. And I like watching Bubba from hook I can see the fun part of it. Others just wants to loop and do gens and nothing more same and same..I like the break it's a bit of a holiday. Bubba should always be Bubba.
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Playing without DH is underrated. To use four strong survivor perks and killer still trying to bait out the DH you don't have 😄
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They answer a lot more questions than many other gaming companies do? I think this is something they do much better now than before, being more open with the players.
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I first though they were making mistakes with there more or less always being a yellow addon as the strongest, and some brown ones being stronger than many iridescent. But it happens again and again with new killers so it's probably on purpose. Perhaps so that new players can use a strong brown addon and such having few addons in their kit. Idk.
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Thanks I knew they had to be bugged. I missed a few skill checks which I never do with merciless or normal ones
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Yes killers do DC also but everytime I see it as survivor is when my teammates are t-bagging and stuff. My teammate survivors DC or hook suicide because they got downed after a minute into the game not because killer was toxic..but of course this happens at times also when people are tunneled. Still not a reason to give up the game and leave teammates in hopeless situation.
But no matter why people DC I think the penalties are too mild since it is still a problem. But nobody is being rewarded for it.
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Good name at least since all killer players would stop playing
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It's pretty good..against newbies. Otherwise it's weak
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She is the opposite Nurse.
Nurse: Very strong, but low kill rate
Sadako: Weak, but high kill rate
They won't buff a killer with good kill rate no matter how weak she is
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I'm going to be honest here I never even think about it I just go to the next game. I always do my best but I really don't care if I escape or die, kill or don't kill. I just try to have fun and stuff happens and on to the next one gg wp!
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There is no logic at all behind your "if you do this you are bad"
Bad killers can tunnel and camp, and the best killers in the game can tunnel and camp. So something is very wrong with your statement.
Usain Bolt is not fast because I don't like his running technique. Ok..
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He needs changes perhaps but not nerfs. I rather face Knight than Legion, Clown, Trickster for example. But Knight is not fun to play against no but very few killers are.
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"Knight is just a weaker Artist"
"Skullie is just a weaker Knight"
Next time: "New killer is just a weaker Skullie"
I want to add a complaint also how "scary" is she? Not at all and it looks like a killer anyone could design in 10 minutes.
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Yeah ignore the strong killers nerf Dredge instead lol
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It's vital for a solo player to have one heal left for the end game. And how can I save you in the end if I'm injured and killer is proxy camping?
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Ok? They never said tunneling is bad or wrong? Gen rush is also the most effective way to win what is wrong with it? Winning is never "fun" for the other side. Tunneling and doing gens will always be meta.
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I always try to say hello to survivors from distance in the beginning with Bond but no reaction. Because mostly it's just me running it lol
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Corrupt, Deadlock, Forced Penance, Pain Res is a good build on Twins
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I wonder about BHVR and how they feel seeing nerfed killers played much less after the change like Billy and Freddy. Is this what they wanted? Or do they think it's just the players being picky? When a killer goes from popular to being rare is that not a sign that something is wrong? Or is that intended from devs wanting people to play other killers more?
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No I play on console with messages and such turned off. But playing killer I do get items left for me at exit gate and killers letting me go as survivor sometimes so..I like when it's positive in game. Don't need friends I have my whiskys and rums to keep me company.
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3 gen or basement build if you play the weakest killer in the game.
This is the way!
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I thought they deleted Twins? At least one of them
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Perhaps it should always tell you what area of the map you are in west, north etc. And then we could have a small text close to the gen icons seeing what area gens are being worked on by other survivors. These are infos SWF have.
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I'm just saying I wanna have some fun
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As long as camping and/or tunneling can win you the game there is no reason not to use these strategies. I don't understand how there is still people upset with the players and not upset with the game/devs for this. End game chat on this PC thing (I'm a console player) people should be angry at BHVR/Devs not the opponent.
Fix the maps first then you can nerf camping and tunneling in some way. It's easy to do with perks making sure unhooked survivor can escape the killer or get great distance with faster haste, loss of scratch marks, old Iron will etc. Bubba can be buffed while making sure his facecamping is nerfed or killed.
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Legion is always boring with the mending and teammates forgetting how to spread out. Plague is also a killer that sinks my heart because having 2000+ medkits on my survivors I always use a 2-3 heals medkit so seeing it's Plague now my medkit is useless and I feel my solo team more or less always lose to this strong killer that kills my gameplan lol. But Legion is more boring to go against.
Trickster is also a killer that is unfun to try to loop. Clown also not fun to play against as survivor although I do love the character Clown, his laugh and such.