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Call of Brine and Overcharge should both be unnerfed back to their former selves. Now that the 8 regression limit is in place those old scenarios that brought about their nerfs are no longer relevant.

Ruin should be 200%. It wasn't overtuned, it was just nerfed for nothing other than changing the meta.

Lullaby should just start at 5 stacks. Each totem destroyed removes a token.

Thwack honestly shouldn't even have a hook requirement. Breakable walls and pallets are a limited resource so you will get less and less value as the game goes on. Just remove the hook part. Flat scream and aura on break. Done.

Undone is unsalveagable without reworking the perk entirely. It's doomed to be terrible because of its skill check design. Make it good and it destroys bad players too much.

Revert Thana to previous version.

Dying Light remove the healing bonus given to the Obsession and make the slow down affect the Obsession as well. Now it's just a small slow down but slowly gets better as the game goes on if you're playing well.

Leverage just remove the timer. It's just a flat 5% slow down that incrementally gets better. It's permanent but starts out insignificant and only gets relevant if you're playing well.

in some gen regression perks need buffs Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

Can you not passive aggressively target people? We can have normal conversations without that.

in Can we stop Us vs Them? Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

@TheSubstitute said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756349#Comment_3756349
It's not about just removing tunneling; BHVR has demonstrated fully they're balancing off of Kill rates and the current goal favours Killer. I have no issue with that; it's about having fun while playing. Being in a game with tunneling doesn't make many players want to play DbD; it makes them want to play something else. It should be a given that if Killer rates drop below BHVR's goal Killers will get buffs. That's a good thing. What's not a good thing, however, is the gameplay being miserable enough for one side that it makes people play something else.
It's why I missed a week of the anniversary event. Tunneling was prevalent enough that I didn't want to play Survivor and, when playing Killer, I didn't have the heart to kill anyone since the survivors I faced probably experienced the same as me. So I didn't like Survivor play at all and couldn't bring myself to play Killer as intended so I just played Stellaris instead. That's not a good sign for a game.
If I recall correctly you liked my suggestion about how to deal with tunneling which was a general gen slowdown while all Survivors are alive and a substantial repair buff when a Survivor dies so the ideal strategy would be to get all Survivors on death hook first so tunneling gets disincentivized and Killers also don't see 2 or 3 gens pop by the end of the first chase as often. That wouldn't need substantial general buffs to any side as addressing the core game systems would eliminate the need. I'm sure BHVR could come up with something that addresses game mechanics as well.

I mean yeah I want tunneling removed as well. I don't think the hard tunneling at like 4 or 5 gens is common at all though and most people vastly exaggerate scenarios as "tunneling" when it's not. I see it regularly said in my games even that I was "tunneling", when I don't tunnel at all. I intentionally go out of my way even not to tunnel.

There is different types of "tunneling" though, I use that term loosely here. Like when the killers getting down to 1 or 2 gens he needs to remove someone generally. I don't do this, but I could see someone calling this "tunneling". It's hard to have these conversations because everyone has different definitions of tunneling, we'd have to agree on definitions first for proper conversations probably.

I think some of the confusion I have with people in conversations here is me going back and forth between what I would consider tunneling and using tunneling in the sense of how many others would.

in Do people actually think Survivor has no big issues? Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

@C3Tooth said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756349#Comment_3756349
First point. There was a topic a week or two ago claiming tunneling only happens around 8%. With average of 57% kill rate. By that tunneling stats claim, the game is not balancing around tunneling. Are we going to agree that tunneling rate is high then?
Second point. For me, Im not against killers' buffs. But if Devs give Huntress 7 iri hatchets basekit, that broken thing still not stop killers to tunneling survivor. It happened with buffed Eruption.
When there are buffs on survivors. Killers bring up scenarios that top MMR SWFs would make the perks combo broken. Same to killers' buff, still feel dirty with that Huntress buff patch because there are Huntress that still tunnel casual survivors.

"First point. There was a topic a week or two ago claiming tunneling only
happens around 8%. With average of 57% kill rate. By that tunneling
stats claim, the game is not balancing around tunneling. Are we going to
agree that tunneling rate is high then?"

That was a reference to a different type of tunneling. I'm referencing games reaching a point where "someone needs to be removed" with how many gens are left. I think those are thought of differently, of which I am referencing the later. Unless we want to talk about tippy top high mmr matches of which it is balanced around tunneling of former, but that's not average or probably what you're referencing.

"Second point. For me, Im not against killers' buffs. But if Devs give
Huntress 7 iri hatchets basekit, that broken thing still not stop
killers to tunneling survivor. It happened with buffed Eruption."

Can we really not be hyperbolic? We go from killer buffs to 7 Iri hatchets? Really?

Eruption was an unhealthy designed perk I would agree and over tuned. However, I would disagree on the tunneling point. During the "gen kick meta" tunneling was significantly lower in my opinion.

"When there are buffs on survivors. Killers bring up scenarios that top
MMR SWFs would make the perks combo broken. Same to killers' buff, still
feel dirty with that Huntress buff patch because there are Huntress
that still tunnel casual survivors."

Is how it effects top mmr swf not a valid concern? This isn't just a top 1% thing either.

While a lot of other killers needed improvements before Huntress I really don't see any issue with the Huntress buffs. Huntress isn't even one of the killers I really play, so this is mainly from me playing against her. Even after her buffs she isn't over tuned or anything. She's still even generally ranked as one of the funnest killers to face.

in Do people actually think Survivor has no big issues? Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

@The_Krapper said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756359#Comment_3756359
I was referring to where you were saying that slowdown is required in the game, it's not required but alot of people use them and I agree they should be there as an option for people who want to use them, as to the bias part I do think if you call survivor only players out and blame them for the staleness that it is bias but that's just a personal opinion there because I believe players on both roles have their fair share in accomplishing that, killers complaining about perks/new things in general that don't need nerfed the same way those survivors do about killers it all goes hand in hand to create that staleness we have it's not just survivors,.

"I was referring to where you were saying that slowdown is required in the game, it's not required but alot of people use them"

For good players no, stacked 4 slow downs is not required, but the game is in fact balanced around some slow down, generally speaking. The game is not balanced around zero slow down, regardless of how good you are, unless you are on one of the few very high tier killer exceptions to the rule. This is generally agreed upon by most all the community, this isn't really a debated point.

"as to the bias part I do think if you call survivor only players out and
blame them for the staleness that it is bias but that's just a personal
opinion there because I believe players on both roles have their fair
share in accomplishing that, killers complaining about perks/new things
in general that don't need nerfed the same way those survivors do about
killers it all goes hand in hand to create that staleness we have it's
not just survivors,."

You are misunderstanding what I was saying. Yes, killer players complain just as much as the survivors. I was not saying otherwise. What I was saying is how much justification is in those complaints between the two sides. This is in reference to meta perks or features that were complained about and then nerfed. IE many of the survivor meta things that were complained about and then nerfed, were in fact very overtuned. While some of the killer stuff does meet that criteria, the majority did not. Hence why I asked that if you disagree with that statement, then list some examples that you think contradict it and I will lay my points out. This is not bias as I can give you reasons to justify why they are "generally speaking", not the same.

in Officially Distortion Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

@The_Krapper said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3752300#Comment_3752300
I'm gonna have to disagree with your last statement, your bias is showing when you only point out survivor only players and act like they're the only reason stuff becomes stale, we can't pretend like these killers who aren't good at the game don't have a hand in that as well, people who only play one role or just aren't very good in general, if you HAVE to stack all slow downs as a killer then the player is boosted just like a survivor stacking all second chance perks because they can't play without them, that comes down to a skill issue for the people that feel they can't play without those things.

You misuse the word bias, as most people do. Pointing out one sides issues more doesn't imply bias. Bias would entail an "unfair" tilt. If one side has more issues or one side experiences something more, pointing that out doesn't make them bias, it just may mean there's more issues on that said side.

If you think it is equally represented for the same reason on each side then please, list the equivalent amount and we can discuss, because I think you're picturing apples to apples when it's actually apples and oranges. I'm more than happy to elaborate as to why as well if you do.

I have very rational reasons for all my opinions, they aren't "bias".

" if you HAVE to stack all slow downs as a killer then the player is
boosted just like a survivor stacking all second chance perks because
they can't play without them, that comes down to a skill issue for the
people that feel they can't play without those things."

I never said this or implied it. I can rephrase my statement if it seemed that way. Also, the game is balanced around the average/bad player, ie mentioning a good player wouldn't need those is pointless. Unless you're wanting to get into how the game should be, as I don't want the game balanced that way, it's just how it currently is.

in Officially Distortion Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

@Neaxolotl said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756254#Comment_3756254
But then "tunneling" is only a problem in a community, this is quite obvious BHVR is trying to design the game with tunneling aspect at the very least
It's not too hard to remove it altogether anyway

Oh yeah the game is balanced around tunneling at the moment for sure. That's the thing, people just want tunneling removed, the end. What they don't realize is if it was removed completely it would come with significant killer buffs which I doubt any of them would be cool with.

in Do people actually think Survivor has no big issues? Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

@Orthane said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/419542/please-don-t-ever-bring-back-the-remote-hooks
Remote hooking is fine, it's the remote pallet breaking that's a problem.

Now this I agree with. I don’t know why people are so focused on the remote hooking, it’s fine. Remote pallet break however I can definitely see an argument for how busted that was yet no one complains about that. All remote hook did was save a little time, remote break however gave tons of downs that would have never happened in many scenarios with little counter play.

in Please don’t ever bring back the remote hooks Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

I’ve yet to hear a single good reason why it was unbalanced or an issue at all.

in Please don’t ever bring back the remote hooks Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

An interesting thing to note on Xeno. While most rank him quite high on a tier list his kill rate is actually usually one of the lowest few surprisingly.

in Idea for buff License Killer : Xenomorph, Nightmare, Demogorgon. Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

@ReverseVelocity said:
This does echo a lot of the frustrations I have with Sadako. The thing that bugs me the most is that tapes don't feel like they do anything in this iteration of her kit. They're just there as a free TV shutoff. 1.0 had Passive Condemned, 2.0 had Condemned on hit but 3.0 doesn't really have anything at all.
I'm not sure if Passive Condemnded would be appropriate with it being easier to apply it than her 1.0 kit, but I think Ring Drawing becoming basekit would be a good idea.
Another idea I had was that Survivors carrying the Tape do not hear the Lullaby. This makes them more susceptible to attacks without increasing Condemned at all.
I also agree with Reiko's Watch being made basekit (again). I don't like how they only add partial amounts in terms making addons basekit. Imagine if they'd Wraith like 5.4m/s when reworking him the first time around. Basically the same kind of thing.

I agree with this idea. I like either condemn on hit when there’s a tape on them, Ring Drawing base kit, or no lullaby when holding a tape. These give some risk to holding a tape. I like these better than passive condemn as they’re not free, the Onryo has to earn them.

I don’t think they needed to get rid of old Ring drawing. The condemn on heal was fine as an addon, especially once they made it not apply on slug pick ups.

in My frustrations with Sadako - Venting and offering ideas. 💡 Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

Do you feel survivor has a ton of issues that need addressing but aren’t? I mean survivor basically just has the tunneling issue and matchmaking problems. Bad matchmaking is a current necessary evil as it covers up the games balance problems. Both sides have tons of bad perks. So really tunneling is about it.

in Do people actually think Survivor has no big issues? Comment by Blueberry July 8, 2024

They basically just gave QoL changes..but also not only didn't fix her core problem (taking Victor hostage) but made it even worse as the cooldown is longer now. So kinda a side grade with no real issues addressed. Likely just as unpopular as before since the main reason people don't like playing her is Victor being taken hostage. People don't like having survivors control their power.

in The Twins Comment by Blueberry July 7, 2024

Should be visible. If people are gonna tunnel, seeing it or not doesn't matter. All this does is help the killers that don't want to tunnel.

in Should Hook Stages be visible for the Killer as well? Comment by Blueberry July 7, 2024

@Devil_hit11 said:
gameafoot. i just want the perk to give me 5% haste after kicking a pallet. Changing the the perk so that it changes the obsession when hitting a survivor by any means would make it consistent.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3755691#Comment_3755691
buffing hex:undying is probably best solution to making hexes last longer. For example, instead of hex:undying only re-lighting itself a single time, make hex:undying re-light itself 2 times. I doubt they'll buff hexes because they're not top 20 worst perks in the game but they're not meta or good either. Just average perks.
I found that they're better than most of killer perks by playing chaos shuffle. I rolled hex: blood favor and hex:crowd control in many builds. it was very useful despite being cleansed every game. Some games, i had hex:retribution and Hex:haunted with some other hexes like hex:lullaby, they at least did something unlike some of the most pointless perks ever like….. predator.

I’d basically just like them to be active from the start but not light into a totem for like 60 seconds into the game. So until a minute has passed they’re impossible to find or cleanse. Buffing Undying just uses it as a bandaid fix.

in Around 20 lesser used perks are getting changed this fall - what's your wish list? Comment by Blueberry July 7, 2024

@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3755780#Comment_3755780
There are a couple other patches in there too now that I'm looking. Just depends on when the data you have was collected.
Dedicated Servers were definitely very very janky in the beginning.

Doesn’t show months so I can’t say. We’d have to manually go through all the old posts to see exactly when it was listed.

I remember them being pretty janky but I didn't think it was that bad. It’s been a while since then though.