ADP123

@AStupidDavid said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/123105/the-devs-have-completely-ruined-their-game
So I'm a rank 3 killer and a rank 2 survivor and here's the problem. For a killer it feels good getting 3 or 4 hooks before the survivors have done any gens but if you look at it from the survivor perspective it's really frustrating, just as it is for killers to get gen rushed. Let me explain, for me hex skill checks are really easy to hit but for some other people they're not and for solo players like me having teammates that can't hit the damn hex skill checks is literally a death sentence, and when I find the totem there's probably one person on their last hook already. Now, as a killer I hate getting gen rushed by swf teams and yes it is really hard to beat them but not impossible, not if you apply pressure by literally keeping everyone injured and if they end up winning and you get 1 or 2 kills it's ok I mean you can't always win, same thing for survivors and that's what people need to understand this game wasn't made so that you win every match, you win and you lose period. And even though I think ruin is useless now, it did need to get nerfed. They definitely nerfed it way too much in my opinion but ruin did need a nerf let's face it

Yes, I should've made it clearer that I am mostly targeting SWF.

in The devs have completely ruined their game. Comment by ADP123 January 24, 2020

@Mister_xD said:
the ruin change is indeed healthy for the game - hear me out - in the long run.
currently however, due to survivor objective times being as short as they are, the ruin change was unhealthy.
old ruin needed to go at some point, but that should have been when they fixed objective times for survivors. as long as they do that next, i can live with it.
you are right though, at this point in time changing ruin was not the right decision.

I actually agree completely. I am hoping this ruin change is followed by more balances. Such as balancing SWF. We will see though.

in The devs have completely ruined their game. Comment by ADP123 January 24, 2020

@Throckmorton said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/123105/the-devs-have-completely-ruined-their-game
It's funny that you're so bad you have to have crutch: ruin. I still 4k red rank just practice and you'll get back into the groove :)

Most people would disagree with you. When the amount of killers playing drops like a rock, we'll see if anyone will be "getting back in the groove".

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@Sir_WAFFLZ said:
I think the problem isn't so much the ruin change but more the poor map design. On smaller maps it's easier to apply pressure and means that ruin isn't necessary. So if the devs make the maps smaller it would fix a lot of the problems people have. If the problem persisted then tweaking gen times would help fix things as well. Idk that's just my opinion

I 100% agree. With the maps the way they are, I am sweating the controller out of my hand to apply pressure.

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@aurum_exe said:
When i play survivor (solo queue) i never get looping gods teammates who can run the killer for at least 2 generators, only potatoes who go down in 8 seconds. When i play killer i always find a squad of Satan's spawn on Earth, armed with ultra blind flashlights and toolboxes so overpowered that can make a gen in 30 seconds. SWF usually move in this way: 1 looping god who makes you mad the whole time, 1 following you with a flashlight, in case you down his friend and the other 2 are on a genrush. Gens are done so quick you don't even realize how many minutes passed since the start of the game. And this was happening before the ruin nerf. Think about it now. Only when i use Billy or Freddy, with the right build, i have some good chances to get at least 2/3k. SWF is a real issue for killers. Ok i'm not a red rank killer, i get 5 or 6 usually, but i'm not even that bad compared to many others. With solo queue surv i have almost no problem at all, but with SWF the only thing i can do is mori the first survivor before the third gen pops up. Then i have some chances.

"Satan's spawn" lmaooo. That is where this post is directed at mostly. I could've made it clearer. SWF is a huge problem. The only way I see this working out is by the devs balancing SWF after this ruin change. We shall see.

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@Some_Dood64 said:
Not to be rude or anything, but maybe just don't run one or the other. If you know they won't work together, don't put them together. Either that, or just use Pop as a backup for when Ruin goes.. Better yet, what I do is just get rid of Ruin altogether and put Surveillance on, keeping Pop.

Agreed, and I will be doing that. I just don't see how it's possible to put enough pressure on a SWF with maps like Macmillan and Autohaven, where chases are usually long, without Ruin and Pop together. I am talking about red ranks as well, where survivors are usually very coordinated.

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@whattheheck123 said:
Games are much shorter now, and not in a good way. Some killers can deal with it, but killers without gen pressure are unplayable at purple/red ranks. Even green ranks, as for some reason green rank killers get matched with red and purple all the time.
I usually have at least 2 gens pop before my first hook unless I run into a potato that doesn't know how to loop. I need up to 12 hooks to kill everyone. The objectives are disproportional. Needs to be fixed or yeah, the devs will indeed have killed their own game.

Thank you. I thought I’m going crazy. 44 seconds to do a gen. All a survivor has to do is last 30ish seconds on maps with god loops. Not all maps have god loops but you get my point. More time to pick up and hook. That can potentially get 3 gens done. I’m feeling like I’m crazy because people are saying I’m overreacting. But I’m a rank 1-4 killer who tries to not tunnel or camp. This is near impossible now in my opinion because of how fast gens are done.