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  • @walrusthemighty said:
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    Based on your opinion and the amount of knowledge it shows, I can hardly take you seriously. If you do not believe that a Nurse in the hands of a good player can end the game in the matter of seconds, then you indeed haven't spent enough time playing the game or never met good Nurses before. Everything you said about pallets and "brake the chase and hide" tactic are the main triggers for me to think about you in the way I do.

    I don't consider myself as know-it-all but I'm sure I know quite a lot about this game. Not only from my experiences but from experiences of others. I don't know how much time I spent playing this game (and watching others play) but it's not a low amount and considering that I can survive against a good Nurse (which seems you cannot) makes me even more sure about my knowledge. Breaking a chase is possible, you just need to think. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it's impossible.
    I haven't stated that good Nurse can't end game in matter of seconds. I just stated that it's possible to survive. Don't imply I said something I haven't. Besides any good killer can end game in matter of sceonds. Actually any killer can do that if survivors are very bad or unexperienced.
    Also you said before that you don't need knowledge to be good in this game and now you're implying that I don't have it as if you wanted to say that it is indeed needed. Can you even decide what's your opinion? Or are you just going to change your statements everytime someone proves you're wrong?
    Think of me any way you want, it doesn't matter. I was only giving you a small tip to help a little but if you prefer to stay ignorant and keep losing against Nurses then sure...have fun.

  • @walrusthemighty said:
    @Someone
    My definition of "fun" in DBD is not to play against a good nurse who does not give a single f about pallets, windows and any other construction, such as jungle gym. Who can instantly gain the distance you've gained in the matter of two seconds. Take billy, for example, yes, he can gain the distance as well, but it takes time to charge his chainsaw and it takes more time for him to reach you. I have spent over a thousand of hours in this game (it might not be a lot for 2k+ hours players, but I think its enough to claim that I do know the game mechanics). It does not matter how much you know the game and all of its aspects. You simply can not counter a good Nurse, period. If you disagree with my statement, you might be the one playing on low ranks, not me.

    All killers have weak points, including Nurse. You just have to know how Nurse works and observe killer's way of thinking. There're few strategies. One of the best options here is to make Nurse think you're going one way but go another and when you have an opportunity try to hide or you can avoid her hits and confuse her using her fatigue for your advantage. If you indeed have 2k+ hours you should already know that and successfully perform it yet seeing your complaint it seems that you're either lying about it or you have serious problems with learning. Nurse can get to you quickly but her blinking has a price. Also you can use pallets against her, you just have to look for the opportunity to use it at the right time. Windows and jungle gyms are also good for mind games and hiding against any killer.
    It does matter how much you know the game mechanics. If you don't know how you can fast vault or if you don't know how can you make killer hit an obstacle instead of you then don't expect a success when playing against more experienced killers. Believe it or not but this game is partially a strategic game, you need to learn its mechanics and use your knowledge for your advantage. You have to use a right strategy if you want to win. If you're just running anywhere without thinking then the only thing that awaits you is a failure.
    Believe me I played against a good nurse yesterday in rank 1. It was possible to counter. It wasn't always easy but certainly it was possible.

  • Depends what you mean by fun in this game. Because it won't be the same for everyone.
    For me it's fun when I play against good killers, when I mostly have to rely on mind games and when I feel pressure.
    For someone else it's fun if they can mess with killer or/and survivors.
    And some people find it fun only if they're winning.
    If you don't enjoy playing against a good killers then you can just stay in lower ranks.

    Besides buffs and nerfs won't help that much. You can have insta hachets with all the best perks and lose or you can play as Freddy without perks and add-ons and get 4k. It all depends mostly on how well you know game mechanics and characters abilities not on buffs, nerfs, perks or add-ons. Generally speaking it depends on your intelligence.

  • @Luven said:
    Because Hag was not sexual objectification. And Hag is almost bare of bones. It doesn't look like a human being. Is her breast boucing like a Spirit? And Spirit's a dead body, not Hag. I'm a woman, too. I doubt you are really a woman. I knew from a tweet that her breast was boucing. Can a bandage be fastened and a small breast bounce like that? Well, I don't think so. And Meg is a runner. Why do athletes need swimsuits? They're the ones who created their problems.

    I'm a woman I have no doubt about it but looking at your "logic" I see there's no point in convincing you. I don't know if Hag's breasts are bouncing. As I said I haven't noticed. Maybe because when I play I'm focusing on surviving or killing not on checking if my character is a victim of that so called "sexual objectification". I don't want to assume but for me it just seems that you just have complexes about that body part...or appearance generally. And yes, small breasts bounce too. Believe it or not. If you're indeed a woman you should know that...

    Read Hag's background. She was prisoned, starved and injured. How do you expect her to look after that? The only reason I can think of that Hag's breasts are not bouncing is because there's no fat at all. It's just skin and bones. Spirit wasn't starved, she was just attacked by her father when she came home. But both of them almost died. As I said before they're both like living corpses no matter if they look human or not. Why should corpse care about their clothes? Or rather their remains? If someone has necrophilia then it's their problem not yours. Changing her design won't help in solving this problem though.

    Meg Thomas is an energetic Athlete, able to outrun most Killers. Her main focus is running but she's an athlete. An athlete (also sportsman or sportswoman) is a person who competes in one or more sports that involve physical strength, speed or endurance. If she's a runner only like you say then why there's a tennis outfit for her in store? Swimming is a sport too so I see nothing wrong with giving her a swimsuit.

    They're not creating a problem. You're creating a problem and make other people laugh. Games are created for people to have fun, relax, not to discuss or present political views, morality, world problems etc.

  • I can't understand why you say that Hag's design is good while Spirit's bad while their designs are very similar. They both almost died and both look like living corpses with something that you can guess was cloth once. Of course you can say that Spirit could have her clothes that she weared before becoming who she is now. But her and Hag's outfits only shows how devastating for them (both mentally and physically) were events that led to becoming a killer. Their clothes are as much destroyed as they are. Also why should corpse care about clothing?

    And about breast bouncing. It's natural that breasts bounces (unless you have a very very small breasts). Even if you wear sports bra they do bounce more or less. I don't know if you're a man or woman. I'm a woman and I don't find it disturbing and I don't see it as "sexual objectification". Actually I haven't even noticed that their breasts bounces. I guess if you're a man and you can't focus on game because of that I can kind of understand that's a problem. But yeah if you want Kate, Spirit and rest of female characters to have breasts made of stone or something go for it...

    Also you say David's case is different because he's a fighter. It's not different. A well-built man with no shirt is sexy no matter if he's supposed to wear it or not. With that logic they should add sexy swimsuit for Meg because she's an athlete. Besides what is wrong with attractive/sexy characters in games? We all like to look at anything that is nice looking and that includes attractive people. I see a lot of games and movies with sexy, attractive male characters (mostly main characters) and I haven't seen anyone complaining about it but everytime it's a female there's a sea of complaints.

    Besides if someone is attracted to corpses it's their problem not yours so why do you care?

  • I see. I thought that some people take advantage of it, that's what I guessed when I was checking some discussions and opinions. Though I couldn't understand how can it be advantageous.
    Well I do understand that after waiting so long they want to play no matter what but isn't 1000 ms a little bit too much though?

  • Everyone has their own weak points and strenghts and basing on that they choose their strategy. For some people camping or tunneling will be very effective for others it'll be waste of time. Maybe you can get 4k without these strategies but it doesn't mean others also can (If someone can speak 30 languages does that mean anyone can? No) nor that they're weak players. It's as if you said that survivors who focuses mostly on gens instead of looping the killer are noobs.

    I'm survivor main and I know well how it is to be camped or tunneled. It sucks but it doesn't change that tunneling and camping are not bannable offenses. Not to mention some of the killer perks are made specifically for that. Also camping and tunneling is not something you can't counter. Eveything has its weak points, you just have to observe and learn.
    You can have even 1m hours in this game but if you can't adapt to these changes that means you don't have much experience.

  • Some people should learn that camping and tunneling are strategies. Of course it's not good being camped or tunneled but it's not against the rules. Even killer perks confirms it. Like Insidious is a perk made for camping and obsession related perks for tunneling. It's pretty obvious but it seems some people don't understand it.
    Just ignore completely game chat or just write GG and don't react to negative remarks. This makes this kind of people even more salty.

  • Haven't played as a killer yet but as a survivor it doesn't change much for me. If they didn't tell about exhaustion nerf I wouldn't even notice it. Maybe after some time. Don't know why some people are so angry about it.
    But it seems this update didn't really help Freddy...