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This would improve peoples attitudes to playing the killer but rather than making it online 2 player killer have it as a splitscreen only killer the smaller screensize would be a decent balance for how the killer is currently and the killer would be unavailable unless theres a second controller detected
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If you truly feel that the twins are overpowered then please do as every survivor main wishes beg them to buff killers that are already s tier aka nurse freddy myers etc because if the twins are op then im clearly lost onnwhat that means
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Played her in 2 games first game people disconnected second game i couldnt get a single kill charlotte moves to slow to be useful and victor has terrible fov being blonded by every blade of grass let alone a hitbox that will hit everything except the survivors endgame result 2 hooks no kills and 4 toxic tbagging survivors with flashlights in the exit gate
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Okay thank you didnt notice that its in such small writing compared to the rest
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@FrustratedKillerMain said:
No, nothing good will come from it IMO. I turned crossplay back off as a red rank killer. The severe disadvantage I'm at playing with a controller with worse frames is just made tenfold more apparent playing against the multi-thousand hour sweat squads from PC. Thankfully I didn't have to see any chat after losing to these teams
I play a red rank huntress and ive seen no advantage of pc survivors over console survivors but thats just in my experience and as you say you've turned crossplay off personally right so whats the harm in being able to message survivors or killer before or after the match you could make new friends to play with or you can tell how toxic the players are before starting
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@[Deleted User] said:
Voted yes. I play on console, but I always like to send a gg whether I win or lose. And the old ps4 app used to let you do that (not cross play) but they have recently changed it and you can't mass message past players met. I think there is a lot of toxicity in this community, and I think messaging "gg gl in your next games" helps spread positivity. I've been called stupid for it, but I like it.
This ^ this is what im looking for haha
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I play both killer and survivor huntress main and jake main and ive been in this situation more times than i can count or the other situation with survivors is when youre a solo survivor with 3 teammates who farm you off the hook and get you killed and the killer still targets you over them in those cases i usually give up whats the point in trying if its a 4 vs 1 against a survivor right? The killer can see ive given up on running cause I just stand still or walk to the hook because my fun in that game is ruined. Now on the other hand if i see this happening to someone else ill let that person go until their the last person alive (unless this survivor is purposefully toxic tbagging pointing etc i understand doing it to bait a killer into a chase but you can literally stand there or walk in a circle to achieve this anyway.. in the situation mentioned above ill chase and down the survivors without hooking depending on how many people are still in the game ill let them work on gens without pressure up until they get the same amount of gens done as a custom game would spawn that number of players in with 4 players 5 gens 3 playera 4 gens 2 players 3 gens 1 player 2 gens before walking to the opposite end of the map waiting around for 20 seconds staring at a wall before returning to the game as normal it allows the survivors to do challenges earn bp and have a degree of fun whilst also allowing me to do the same unless the challenge is a mori and in that case if the survivor wasnt toxic ill attempt to send a message if theyre on psn as we dont have access to the message box on console amd apologise for example i finally got the blood on your face trophy for getting 4 moris in a match and i sent a message to them all apologising for the mori as they barely got 1 ben done due to a terrible gen spawn for them 2 3 gens visible from the main building (crotus prenn) and the other 2 gens were visible if i took a few steps and unfortunately they hadnt realised the state they had spawned and they were caught working on one of the other gens eventually being killed fairly quickly (i didnt realise 2 of them were afk until i had the birds notification they each had 3 crows and so i went a little lenient but still applied pressure they didnt think to work on different gens kept diving the same 2 in one of the 3 gen spawns. (This went on longer than expected)
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@mmain said:
I comment about this frequently on threads where the topic is camping, but I wanted to start a thread about this and see if there is something I am missing.
In half or more of the matches I play when the killer gets his first hang (and all subsequent ones) at least 1, if not 2, and sometimes 3 (if I am the first one hung) are going to rush the hook. So many just have to be the hero. It's like it's a race to see who can be the second (or third) to be taken down. This strategy, or should I say lack of strategy, is pretty much a guaranteed loss for the whole team. It hands easy 4k's to killers. I mean if survivors are just going to offer themselves up to the killer as easy sacrifices why shouldn't they take it?
I see posts where killers talk about gen rushing and I keep wondering where the survivors are that actually gen rush. I rarely see survivors that gen rush. If anything the ones I see most often hook rush. For clarification, I am not trying to say gen rush doesn't happen. Just saying I only get on a team that seems to think doing gens is important about one quarter of the time.
I'm trying to understand why so many survivors are intent on playing in a manner that is pretty much a guaranteed loss for the whole team. Is it just for the easy points? Is it that there are lots of survivors that can't comprehend hook rushing is a horrible losing strategy? Or is there some other benefit to hook rushing I just don't know about?
The main reason besides simply people doing daily challenges or even the archive challenges is because when a survivor is taken out of the game via being hooked the game gets harder to escape and depending on the rank you play survivors usually know how to safely unhook you even with the killer being close by ive saved people without bt with the killer close by because the killer swings and either hits me or hits the survivor still on the hook giving time for the unhook and if the survivor is quick enough both can then escape unscathed or itll end in a trade this is harder to do in the basement but can still work and the other thing i find is the hook dive method which requires 2 people at the hook one runs in making it look like a rescue attempt gets hit on purpose somthe killer chases them and someone else gets the unhook behind the killer now this only works if the killer doesn't tunnel but i hope that answers your question
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/902099#Comment_902099
I never said that.
And honestly, thus behaviour only further cements my opinion of you. Pathetic
You now call someone pathetic for showing you proof of something you outright deny in other comments so whos the pathetic one really?
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And another post @Weck ill keep you updated on every post about camping which you believe dont exist in high ranks
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Oh look yet another one @Weck
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@Weck and another
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@Weck oh look another post about camping not prevalent enough??
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/897451#Comment_897451
I play the game. I watch streams of the game. I see the usual complaints around. That's how I would know. How about you?
So in this scenario the killer already killed 1 or 2 survivors and only 1 gen fot done? You're already in a losing scenario here, if the killer goes to the corner of the map after hooking someone it would still be hard to escape, why bother with this scenario?
80 seconds base. Person stays on hook for 120 seconds. With toolboxes you can be out of the gates in less than 4 minutes.
But hey, you apparently think camping is this unbeatable strategy, so go ahead and reach rank 1 with it. I'll wait.
"You seem to be defending the game very hard"...what? Just...what?
It's a common complaint because it happens a lot on low ranks. Doesn't mean it's an issue, people haven't learned how to counter it yet.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/897466#Comment_897466
Creating pressure so the killer leaves the hook doesn't help the hooked survivor? Ok.
Replaces whatever you want. Use the perks you wanna use.
...ok boomer.
Did I say anything about the equivalent of camping being gen rushing? Why would you even bother bringing it up?
In this comment you resort to the meme phrase of OK boomer because the person calls you out for trying to say perks are a way to counter camping when it doesn't as he explained then you try defending the use of the phrase in another comment by saying you didnt want to deal with his crap like wow nice way to insult someones comment because it contradicts your own yet again
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/900872#Comment_900872
I'm typing on a phone, that's no excuse.
"Youre saying youve not come across 3 campers in 100 games what were they kyf?"
Yes I am. And no , solo queue. All of them.
"Because everyone ive played with always run into a camper every 3/5 games and were all between the ranks of 1-10"
Where do you play? That could make a difference. Or you're remembering the matches that annoyed you instead of the whole picture. Which is normal.
"either youre extremely lucky or you dont see the camper because youre on the other end of the map refusing to be remotely altruistic"
Considering the amount of times I died because I went to save someone after the gates were open...I would say... no.
In fact, I'm way too altruistic. Unless I get a daily or challenge that requires me to escape, I never leave unless the egc timer is about to run out or everyone is at the door.
"I read all your comments..." "...i quoted one of your comments simply because i didnt want to waste more time reading your comments"
Which one was it? Did you read all my comments or not?
"where you simply degrade and refuse to believe others come across these problems"
Simply degrade? Wow. What an accusation. Where did I simply degrade someone? Go on. Show me. Because I am a bit of an ######### sometimes but that's always on the side and not the main part of the comment. At least on this thread.
And refuse to believe? Again, where? I believe what people are telling me. But saying someone is wrong and not believing them, aren't mutually exclusive.
"the only reason i find for such a defensive attitude for campers is because you must be one of them"
I know this is a logical fallacy, but I don't remember the name.
It's kind of an af hominum since you're trying to insult me instead of arguing against my points. But I am not certain it's that. 🤔
Either way... this "you only defend them because you're them" is ridiculous and useless. Doesn't matter where I'm coming from, if I'm right, I'm right.
And remember that comment I made like... a while ago...you might not remember... it's right above yours. Where I said.
@Weck "Camping and tunneling is rarely the best strategy at any given point."
Wow...you must be a genious to think I actively play in a way that I myself consider a bad strategy.
Or better yet, when I told the OP that camping is a failing strategy. That is probably why you think I play like that.
Only a true madlad such as yourself would see through my clever ruse. Who would think that I, the guy saying at any point that camping is bad, besides some very situational circunstances, am in fact a camper?
Only you! Oh master of the smartness! Please teach this but humble trickster how to smart like you smart.
I could go on...but it got boring.
What you just said is stupid. The very fact you would consider such a thing is stupid. The fact that you can't decide if you read my comments or not is stupid. The fact that you think that insulting me is somehow helping you is stupid and hilarious. The fact that you say I need to accept others point of view while telling me you're not accepting mine is stupid.
But no matter how stupid your points are, I still read every single one of your comments. Because I wanna understand your position before replying.
If you wanna ignore what I'm saying and pretend you somehow have the high ground, then not only your points are bad, but you're pathetic aswell.
Enjoy your miserable experience
If you read my comment properly i was saying that i quoted one because i didnt want to waste more time by reading something ive already read to argue certain points you keep telling people its a bad strategy because if you told people you were part of the problem why would anyone accept your point of view its a toxic strategy and youre a toxix person you say im trying to insult you by merely pointing out that youre defending something in a way that a person defends something that means something to them personally and when younask where i play i play on playstation in the UK and ill quote one of your comments after this post so you can see the parts where you degrade people because they have a separate opinion and you say im remembering only the games i find bad wow glad to see how you think my memory works simply because the stats ive found completely contracted your 3 /100 stat which is clearly BS if you took the time to do that where is the stream of these 100 games qnd the notes to go along with it showing how you got 3/100 ? The last part of your comment where you find it important to insult me because you dont agree with my points and think calling me stupid helps good job showing people you dont resort to insults and within this comment you say it doesn't matter where you come from you literally claim that youre opinion is a fact when it clearly isnt considering the large amount of people who can back up the point im making that camping is a large scale problem that is very prevalent youre in the minority claiming its not
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/899607#Comment_899607
Jesus mate... please use commas and periods. What a mess.
"Judging with how you respond to people who are simply pointing out a problem that is very prevalent across all ranks"
I think this is a break in the sentence...seriously, format your comments better, it helps.
The thing is, it's not very prevalent, even if you think it is. I literally wrote way too many details about almost 100 matches last season. Out of them I wrote down 3 campers. From rank 13 to 3(I believe) and yet I barely saw campers. If it's indeed "very prevalent" shouldn't I have seen more of them?
"myself made it to rank 1 multiple times and yet still the most common playstyle is facecamp then tunnel"
That's your impression, sure. It's not mine and most of the people I talk to. Can you demonstrate how frequent it is?
"you talk about using perks to counter it but borrowed time only works if you can get the unhook and even then borrowed time only helps you for a short time if you cant escape and heal up after getting hit and tunneled as soon as your unhooked you're still going to die"
In the very comment you replied to, I gave the best tactic to use without a single perk or item. You could have quoted something else to make your point better.
But, on countering it with perks. Borrowed garantees an unhook. You go down in the persons place, but the unhook is garanteed. There's no "if" in getting the unhook. And yes, if the killer decides to tunnel the unhooked, they will go down again. Just like if the killer decides decides to tunnel the unhooker. Point?
"Killers need to be punished for facecamping and tunneling"
Why? Because it's a strategy you don't like? That's not enough. And they are already punished.
"and i dont mean as a perk because as the game stands these days its too far killer sided"
The punishment that's in the game is already not perk related. It's emblem related. A killer that camps will have a really hard time ranking up.
"i play both and get frequent 4ks and thats without camping or tunneling"
Congrats? That's not special mate. Camping and tunneling is rarely the best strategy at any given point.
"all theyve really done is stopped a killer getting an emblem and a few bloodpoints"
No devout emblem, because he only hooks once, no devious emblem, because he isn't using his power while camping, no chaser emblem, because he isn't chasing for most of the game, no brutality emblem because he only hits people 2 times... and that's without the penalty. Campers have a hard time pipping. That's why you mostly see it on the lower ranks.
"plenty of killers ive come acroos whilst playing survivor literally facecamp on purpose they literally have the words toxic etc in their bios"
Toxic people exist. Point?
"ive had several people in high ranks dc simply because of a facecamp because they know theyre getting nowhere in that game"
So, what you're you are saying, is that people break the rules of the game because other people play in a way they don't like? And this helps your point how?
"and now with this new ban all theyre going to do is kill themselves on hook leaving those who remain at an even bigger disadvantage"
How is he suiciding on hook more disavantageous than if he dcs? Did you even read what you wrote before posting it?
"your "solutions" dont help at all because its simple for killers to work around those perks"
My solution involved no perks at all. Perks merely create more options. Did you even read the comment you quoted?
I read all your comments and the reason behind the lack of grammar etc is because im using a tablet which has problems typing and once again youre saying youve not come across 3 campers in 100 games what were they kyf ? Because everyone ive played with always run into a camper every 3/5 games and were all between the ranks of 1-10 either youre extremely lucky or you dont see the camper because youre on the other end of the map refusing to be remotely altruistic i quoted one of your comments simply because i didnt want to waste more time reading your comments where you simply degrade and refuse to believe others come across these problems the only reason i find for such a defensive attitude for campers is because you must be one of them
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Not automated simply because its a struggle mechanic however lag is a problem with how it stands right now so perhaps rather than having to spam the button you hold the button for a few seconds and release when a promt is given this way there's less chance of lag cancelling your struggle and still makes you need to pay constant attention
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The biggest problem is the way he slows down all actions depending on how many people are in the dreeam state ive seen games where no gens get done simply because a freddy runs ruin and has addons that as soon as two people are asleep it takes about 3 minutes to do a single gen and thats using 2 toolboxes i dont mind the rest of the update tbh as he was easily countered before now you have to work to counter him all id say is nerf the effects or only have it work on the individual survivors state not the team as a whole 4 people asleep means the gen isnt even going to move the bar legitimately looks like its not moving in some games ive played
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@Rivyn said:
I'm curious. What changes could be made to 'punish' camping? I'm not saying it needs to be, but what ideas are there?
Me and my friends have discussed this at length and the solution we came up with for punishing camping and tunneling is if the killer is within a set distance from the killer for a set time as long as there are no other survivors within a set distance the survivor should be able to escape from the hook at any stage and receive an endurance status effect if they are being tunneled which would end when the killer leaves the chase this could be disabled during the endgame to balance it
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@Rivyn said:
I'm curious. What changes could be made to 'punish' camping? I'm not saying it needs to be, but what ideas are there?
Ive had a lengthy discussion with my friends about this exact problem and the easiest solution weve found is to punish the killer for camping and tunneling an example we came up with is if the killer is within close proximity to the survivor for a set amount of time with no other survivor within a set distance the survivor should be able to escape the hook in any stage and get a borrowed time effect to punish the killer further only if the survivor is being tunneled and the borrowed time effect would end upon the killer exiting the chase of course this could be disabled during the endgame as a balance
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@Alice_pbg said:
You go to the hook, notice the killer is camping, go back to a gen.
You have enough time to pop 1.5 gens by yourself, 3 gens popping would be better, but even getting 1 pop will help. It puts pressure on the killer to leave, if he doesn't, rince and repeat.
If you play solo a bunch, try equiping kindred. It will help a lot.
Judging with how you respond to people who are simply pointing out a problem that is very prevalent across all ranks myself made it to rank 1 multiple times and yet still the most common playstyle is facecamp then tunnel you talk about using perks to counter it but borrowed time only works if you can get the unhook and even then borrowed time only helps you for a short time if you cant escape and heal up after getting hit and tunneled as soon as your unhooked you're still going to die killers need to be punished for facecamping and tunneling and i dont mean as a perk because as the game stands these days its too far killer sided i play both and get frequent 4ks and thats without camping or tunneling all theyve really done is stopped a killer getting an emblem and a few bloodpoints plenty of killers ive come acroos whilst playing survivor literally facecamp on purpose they literally have the words toxic etc in their bios ive had several people in high ranks dc simply because of a facecamp because they know theyre getting nowhere in that game and now with this new ban all theyre going to do is kill themselves on hook leaving those who remain at an even bigger disadvantage your "solutions" dont help at all because its simple for killers to work around those perks