Another thread to beg for the reversion of these

Revert maps (the charge system and being able to see gens and totems by default)

Revert keys (mostly the charge system and Blood Amber)

Revert Streetwise

Revert Franklin's Demise

Revert Tenacity

Revert The Shape

Remove fog vials

Remove map offerings

Comments

  • Streetwise, yes.

    Franklin's, no. I'm doing great with it in it's current state and I'd never touched it before.

    Revert fog vial opacity. Increase charges to at least 3.

  • Absolutely not to revert franklin's and myers, franklins was a horribly unhealthy soloq stomping perk and myers was quite possibly the killer with the least skill expression in the game

  • @lettuchia said:

    Absolutely not to revert franklin's and myers, franklins was a horribly unhealthy soloq stomping perk and myers was quite possibly the killer with the least skill expression in the game

    Frenklins whole purpose (the degradation of item charges when left on the ground) was to counter medkits (which many were just with styptic or syrange and had charge addon) but now its only good with vecnas perk that gives you the aura reveal and by itself its d-tier perk and its in its current version overshadowed by jolt or sloppy butcher as perk for killer who uses m1 as his main damage type (slinger,hag,wraith,ghostface,legion you get the killers I mean).

    Old franklins was as usefull as lightborn, just to counter items and thats its whole purpose (mainly and mostly medkits because toolboxes and flashlights doesnt suffer that much from charges degrading), hate it or not its just fact now its only good with vecnas perk and thats it, alone its just waste of the perk slot.

  • I like the new stuff.

    Except the Franklin's nerf, they should've made the perk remove 10% of an item's charges instead of removing the mechanic.

    That way it would still counter medkits without being too strong against the new Maps, Keys, and Fog Vials.

  • @Abbzy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4013589#Comment_4013589

    Frenklins whole purpose (the degradation of item charges when left on the ground) was to counter medkits (which many were just with styptic or syrange and had charge addon) but now its only good with vecnas perk that gives you the aura reveal and by itself its d-tier perk and its in its current version overshadowed by jolt or sloppy butcher as perk for killer who uses m1 as his main damage type (slinger,hag,wraith,ghostface,legion you get the killers I mean).

    Old franklins was as usefull as lightborn, just to counter items and thats its whole purpose (mainly and mostly medkits because toolboxes and flashlights doesnt suffer that much from charges degrading), hate it or not its just fact now its only good with vecnas perk and thats it, alone its just waste of the perk slot.

    Lightborn only counters one item. Old Franklin's destroyed all items. It was OP. Imagine if a survivor could bring a single perk that canceled the killer add-ons.

  • @cogsturning said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4013610#Comment_4013610

    Lightborn only counters one item. Old Franklin's destroyed all items. It was OP. Imagine if a survivor could bring a single perk that canceled the killer add-ons.

    Medkits its destroyes medkits mainly and weakens other but its just one perk to counter items and less to help killer in chase or gen protection and bare in mind that this perk is mostly useable on m1 attack based killers and the strongest of them which are in my opinion ghoul,larry doesnt even need this perk so its main use is on mediocre and weaker killers. I didnt see any stronger killer to run it exept vecna or wesekr with weave attunement perk but thats still two perk slots which arent gen deffence or endgame perks which will burn you more as survivor then just loosing your item to killers m1 dont you think.

  • If it only affected medits, fine, it'd be more like Lightborn. But it didn't. I picked up many an empty toolbox. That can counter whole builds of any sort.

    Yeah no, I'd rather them bring gen regress, which is mostly just a nuisance. You can still do Franklin's/Weave. Pretty sure my opponenets would rather me bring regress:

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  • I half agree.

    Some of these should return (Franklins, Tenacity)

    Others should partially return (Myers' T3)

    And Map Offerings/Fog Vials should not be removed.