My Item Revisions, Vol. 4: Toolboxes

Comments

• Coffee2Go

  August 14, 2025

  I like it, it promotes people to run perk that refills your items more often than just running pure bully builds which can be even in combo with current items.

  These changes also would fit well with upcoming changes to anti tunneling and slugging, maybe some further tweaks.
• SoGo

  August 14, 2025

  @Coffee2Go said:

  I like it, it promotes people to run perk that refills your items more often than just running pure bully builds which can be even in combo with current items.

  These changes also would fit well with upcoming changes to anti tunneling and slugging, maybe some further tweaks.

  Glad you like my changes!
• CompetitifDBD

  August 14, 2025

  @SoGo said:

  Hello everyone!

  So, I am now on post talking about how I'd improve an item type number 4. (Links for the rest at the end of the post.)

  Now, it's time for toolboxes. The main things I want to achieve with these changes is to make them a bit less unbalanced, and make them each specialized for a certain kind of playstyle. Enjoy!

  Worn Out Tools:

  • 20 Charges
  • 25% faster Repair speed
  • 50% larger Good Skill Check zones
  • Great Skill Checks do not appear.
  • 30% slower Skill Checks
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action

  This one would be tailored to beginners and people who have problems with Skill Checks. I also decreased the repair speed and removed great skill check zones to avoid potential abuse with Hyperfocus.

  Toolbox:

  • 20 Charges
  • 50% faster Repair speed
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action
  • 50% faster Sabotage speed

  This one would become a jack-of-all-trades, but unlike the current one we have (Commodious), it's not just the best in any thing it does.

  Commodious Toolbox:

  • 28 Charges
  • 50% faster Repair speed
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action

  It should only be focused on repair, not also sabotage. I also trimmed down the numbers just a smidge to even out the field a bit.

  Engineer's Toolbox:

  • 16 Charges
  • 100% faster Repair speed
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action

  The only real change is that it no longer sabotages faster.

  Mechanic's Toolbox (REMOVED)

  Alex's Toolbox (Unchanged)

  Next up, add-ons. These are, imo, some of the main offenders behind why toolboxes get so ridiculously strong in certain ways. These are the changes:

  Instructions (Common):
  • Now can be permanently applied to a single gen, working for all players.
  • Single use, no Skill Check required.

  Clean Rag (Common):
  • Decreased Repair Speed bonus from 20% to 10%.

  Scraps (Common → Uncommon)
  • Increases the bonus from Great Skill Checks by 1%.
  • Causes the Skill Check pointer to have a chance to go backwards, faster, or slower.
  • Causes the Skill Check zones to have a chance to be smaller.

  Protective Gloves (REMOVED)

  Spring Clamp (Uncommon):
  • Now can be permanently applied to a single gen.
  • Single use, no Skill Check required.

  Socket Swivels (Uncommon → Rare):
  • Decreased Repair Speed bonus from 30% to 15%.

  Wire Spool (Uncommon → Very Rare)

  Brand New Part (Visceral):
  • Now, it also reduces the total Charges of the Toolbox by 12.

  Thoughts?

  Related discussions:

  Part 1: Maps / Part 2: Keys / Part 3: Fog Vials

  That instructions change is awful. Hitting skillchecks is way better than having none at all, cus you gain more bp and have a chnace fir great skillchecks. You'd likely get made fun of by your teammates for running that.
• SoGo

  August 14, 2025

  @CompetitifDBD said:

  https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/453793/my-item-revisions-vol-4-toolboxes

  That instructions change is awful. Hitting skillchecks is way better than having none at all, cus you gain more bp and have a chnace fir great skillchecks. You'd likely get made fun of by your teammates for running that.

  I was thinking of it as a beginner-centric add-on, that's why I made it like this.

  But, this is a really simple thing to change, so yeah, it would be probably better if it worked for the user only.

  Are there other changes you have some thoughs on?
• Elan

  August 14, 2025

  @SoGo said:

  Hello everyone!

  So, I am now on post talking about how I'd improve an item type number 4. (Links for the rest at the end of the post.)

  Now, it's time for toolboxes. The main things I want to achieve with these changes is to make them a bit less unbalanced, and make them each specialized for a certain kind of playstyle. Enjoy!

  Worn Out Tools:

  • 20 Charges
  • 25% faster Repair speed
  • 50% larger Good Skill Check zones
  • Great Skill Checks do not appear.
  • 30% slower Skill Checks
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action

  This one would be tailored to beginners and people who have problems with Skill Checks. I also decreased the repair speed and removed great skill check zones to avoid potential abuse with Hyperfocus.

  Toolbox:

  • 20 Charges
  • 50% faster Repair speed
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action
  • 50% faster Sabotage speed

  This one would become a jack-of-all-trades, but unlike the current one we have (Commodious), it's not just the best in any thing it does.

  Commodious Toolbox:

  • 28 Charges
  • 50% faster Repair speed
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action

  It should only be focused on repair, not also sabotage. I also trimmed down the numbers just a smidge to even out the field a bit.

  Engineer's Toolbox:

  • 16 Charges
  • 100% faster Repair speed
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action

  The only real change is that it no longer sabotages faster.

  Mechanic's Toolbox (REMOVED)

  Alex's Toolbox (Unchanged)

  Next up, add-ons. These are, imo, some of the main offenders behind why toolboxes get so ridiculously strong in certain ways. These are the changes:

  Instructions (Common):
  • Now can be permanently applied to a single gen, working for all players.
  • Single use, no Skill Check required.

  Clean Rag (Common):
  • Decreased Repair Speed bonus from 20% to 10%.

  Scraps (Common → Uncommon)
  • Increases the bonus from Great Skill Checks by 1%.
  • Causes the Skill Check pointer to have a chance to go backwards, faster, or slower.
  • Causes the Skill Check zones to have a chance to be smaller.

  Protective Gloves (REMOVED)

  Spring Clamp (Uncommon):
  • Now can be permanently applied to a single gen.
  • Single use, no Skill Check required.

  Socket Swivels (Uncommon → Rare):
  • Decreased Repair Speed bonus from 30% to 15%.

  Wire Spool (Uncommon → Very Rare)

  Brand New Part (Visceral):
  • Now, it also reduces the total Charges of the Toolbox by 12.

  Thoughts?

  Related discussions:

  Part 1: Maps / Part 2: Keys / Part 3: Fog Vials

  This would keep toolboxes still way too powerfull. I made my own post about this. It was about toolboxes are consumed on a gen to permanently increas the particular gen speed (by 5, 7 and 10 %) Meaning that Engineers toolbox would result in current Prove thyself at best.
• SoGo

  August 14, 2025

  @Elan said:

  https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/453793/my-item-revisions-vol-4-toolboxes

  This would keep toolboxes still way too powerfull. I made my own post about this. It was about toolboxes are consumed on a gen to permanently increas the particular gen speed (by 5, 7 and 10 %) Meaning that Engineers toolbox would result in current Prove thyself at best.

  Ok, that would:

  1. Not change a single thing, because the resulting time spared with a toolbox is approximately the same as with a permanent +10% repair speed. (90÷1,1= ~82 sec. Engineer's Toolbox conserves 8 seconds exactly at base, so also 82 sec.)
  2. Make toolboxes unpopular due to the way people would see them, which causes everyone to run medkits instead. If that is the goal, then great job.

  So correct me if I'm wrong, but this change suggestion is just changing the font and pretending the text isn't awful anymore.

  If you want radical nerfs, this is not it.
• CompetitifDBD

  August 14, 2025

  @SoGo said:

  https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3983231#Comment_3983231

  I was thinking of it as a beginner-centric add-on, that's why I made it like this.

  But, this is a really simple thing to change, so yeah, it would be probably better if it worked for the user only.

  Are there other changes you have some thoughs on?

  You didn't write it here, but I think they should split the existing toolboxes into two different items, making an entire new Item class called Sabotage Toolboxes, carrying over Sabotage related add ons and reusing Machanic's and Alex's Toolboxes as well as a new uncommon one. These toolboxes would be made on a charge based system, just like Keys, Maps and Fog Vials. Giving you a predetermined amount of charges to sabotage a hook and no punishment through not committing to a sabo by reducing your item's percentage. Grip wrench would make for a good very rare add on, hacksaw giving a basic buff to the toolboxes would be an uncommon. Then there could be a common to add 2 charges to the Toolbox, a rare add on that shows the closest hook to the killer while they're carrying/picking up a survivor, buff and change protective glove's rarity to visceral, adding the ability of making sabotaging quiet, and making hook auras linger for 10 seconds after being destroyed, but charges are reduced by 1 or 2.

  Repair speed add on nerfs feel unnecessary, since the faster you repair, the faster your charges are depleting anyway. Most people use their toolboxes on the first gen they see, so theres no point in nerfing the stretegic use of speed add ons to lets say pop a generator as the killer is actively running at your gen.

  Normal Toolboxes already have 7 add ons linked to doing gens, so might as well do what they did with Keys, Maps and Fog Vials and make only 5 of them stay, having one for each rarity. I'd say we cut loose wire spool, instructions and clean rag. Keep the existing version of scraps, existing socket swivels, change springclamp to a rare add on, make a new very rare that hides all generator auras for the killer while the toolbox is in use, and keep existing BNP.

  I kinda wanna make my own post covering more detailed changes to toolboxes and the two things they are used for. I'll get to it now.
• SoGo

  August 14, 2025

  @CompetitifDBD said:

  https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3983245#Comment_3983245

  You didn't write it here, but I think they should split the existing toolboxes into two different items, making an entire new Item class called Sabotage Toolboxes, carrying over Sabotage related add ons and reusing Machanic's and Alex's Toolboxes as well as a new uncommon one. These toolboxes would be made on a charge based system, just like Keys, Maps and Fog Vials. Giving you a predetermined amount of charges to sabotage a hook and no punishment through not committing to a sabo by reducing your item's percentage. Grip wrench would make for a good very rare add on, hacksaw giving a basic buff to the toolboxes would be an uncommon. Then there could be a common to add 2 charges to the Toolbox, a rare add on that shows the closest hook to the killer while they're carrying/picking up a survivor, buff and change protective glove's rarity to visceral, adding the ability of making sabotaging quiet, and making hook auras linger for 10 seconds after being destroyed, but charges are reduced by 1 or 2.

  Repair speed add on nerfs feel unnecessary, since the faster you repair, the faster your charges are depleting anyway. Most people use their toolboxes on the first gen they see, so theres no point in nerfing the stretegic use of speed add ons to lets say pop a generator as the killer is actively running at your gen.

  Normal Toolboxes already have 7 add ons linked to doing gens, so might as well do what they did with Keys, Maps and Fog Vials and make only 5 of them stay, having one for each rarity. I'd say we cut loose wire spool, instructions and clean rag. Keep the existing version of scraps, existing socket swivels, change springclamp to a rare add on, make a new very rare that hides all generator auras for the killer while the toolbox is in use, and keep existing BNP.

  I kinda wanna make my own post covering more detailed changes to toolboxes and the two things they are used for. I'll get to it now.

  Separating repair and sabotage could be a good possibility. I don't mind both being a part of the same item, but it could work as a way to make them less strong.

  I nerfed the repair speed add-ons, because they are frankly outrageously strong for their rarity. I still think they would be good even in my ideal nerfed form, tho.
• CompetitifDBD

  August 14, 2025

  @SoGo said:

  https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3983308#Comment_3983308

  Separating repair and sabotage could be a good possibility. I don't mind both being a part of the same item, but it could work as a way to make them less strong.

  I nerfed the repair speed add-ons, because they are frankly outrageously strong for their rarity. I still think they would be good even in my ideal nerfed form, tho.

  I just like using the item strategically like that to pop before Pain Res or even Pop (the perk.) Doing that would be alot harder without socket swivels

  That said, here are my changes.

  @CompetitifDBD said:

  SO WHY CHANGE TOOLBOXES?

  Toolboxes at the moment are used for two things, Repair Speed + Unique Buffs with Add Ons, as well as Sabotaging hooks. There are currently 6 different Toolboxes in the game, two in the rare and very rare rarities, which fiddles with how some perks operate, like Exultation for example. The aim of the following changes are to: A, split Sabotaging Toolboxes and Repair Toolboxes into two seperate items. B, to make Sabotaging seem like a more viable playstyle through Basekit and Add On changes. And C, to have there be less Add Ons in total that do the same thing and clutter the Blood Web.

  HOOK SPAWN LOGIC

  • Hooks will now spawn at loop tiles only. Somewhere that features a window and or a pallet built into the tile.
  • Hooks will now spawn at least 20 meters away from the edge map walls when applicable.
  • Scourge hooks cannot be within 20 meters of eachother horizontally, and 5 meters vertically.
  • The basement no longer counts as an environmental hook at the shack or main building tile, allowing one to spawn outside or near the building.

  SABOTAGE BASEKIT

  • Hooks destroyed by a Toolbox stay broken for 60 seconds by default.

  Notes

  Hook spawns are a frustrating for both factions. Survivors getting hooked at the edge of the map woth nothing nearby to make is very frustrating, while it also forces killers to make more distance to generators they want to patrol. This way we can get the best of both worlds by ensuring hooking near no loops or the edge of the map, isn't possible anymore, so long as you haven't already wasted a pallet or a window is blocked.

  Scourge hooks should consistently spawn more spread out now, while still being random.

  In case you can't make the basement hooks, a normal hook should spawn outside the main building or shack now. This is only a problem on select maps that are lacking in size however (speperate problem)

  NEW ITEM: SABOTAGE TOOLBOX

  These Toolboxes only works exclusively with Sabotaging hooks. These toolboxes share the same Use based system as Keys, Maps and Fog Vials.

  Weighted Toolbox (Uncommon)

  The thing is empty, but the Toolbox itself is as heavy as a hammer.

  • 4 Uses
  • Sabotaging takes 2.5 seconds

  Machanic's Toolbox (Rare)

  A metal box with destructive mechanics tools. Can be used to break various metal components.

  • 5 Uses
  • Sabotaging takes 2.25 seconds

  Alex's Toolbox (Very Rare)

  A Toolbox addressed to someone named "Alex." This person was somewhat of a master of Sabotage, the box is filled with destructive tools, far beyond machanic standard.

  • 6 Uses
  • Sabotaging Takes 2 seconds

  Sabotage Toolbox Add Ons

  Claw Hammer (Common)

  A spare tool to keep on breaking, and more efficiently too.

  • Adds 1 Use to the Toolbox
  • Reduced Sabotaging time by 0.25 seconds

  Hacksaw (Uncommon)

  The tool is big, leaving less room for more already brittle tools, but it can make quick work of metal components.

  • Reduce Toolbox uses by 2
  • Reduce Sabotaging time by 0.75 seconds

  Reflective Panels - New Add On (Rare)

  Typically they're stuck onto Toolboxes to be seen while working after dark, but here they hold a strange supernatural power.

  • Sabotaging a hook whilst the killer is picking up or carrying a Survivor reveals the hook closest to the killer

  Grip Wrench (Very Rare)

  An adjustable wrench with a tough grip. This tool isn't letting go of parts so easily.

  • The time until hooks rebuild themselves is increased by 20 seconds

  Ominous Gloves (Visceral)

  Thick gloves, pulsating with power. The wearer gains a better sense of stealth and perception while breaking the Entity's tools.

  • Sabotaging creates no audio
  • Hook break notifications are silenced
  • The hook's aura lingers for the killer for 10 seconds after it was broken.
  • Reduce Toolbox uses by 2

  Notes

  Sabotaging is it's own stand alone machanic now. By making it it's own Item, we can change how many uses it has so you aren’t left with not enough percentage to complete the interaction. By using a Use system, the Sabotage action is cancellable without losing charges.

  The basekit buffs are only means to make the feature more appealing and more helpful in situations where multiple survivors might be hooked nearby harder to accomplish, through faster Sabotaging and longer hook rebuild times.

  REPAIR TOOLBOX (Item Renamed)

  The following has been retired and removed from the Bloodweb:

  • Worn-Out Tools (Common Toolbox)
  • Instructions, Clean Rag, Wire Spool, Cutting Wire (Add Ons)
  • Any Instances of Sabotaging ability gains or speed increases.

  Scraps (Common - Unchanged)

  Springs, screws and gears. Mostly unusable junk.

  • Increase Toolbox charges by 8

  Socket Swivels (Uncommon- Unchanged)

  Swivels provide bend and flexibility for bolts that are out of reach, deep within mechanical devices.

  • Increase Toolbox repair speed by 30%

  Spring Clamp (Rare - Unchanged)

  Useful tool to clamp hoses or hold wires in place to prevent abrupt and loud noises.

  • All generator audio's hearing distance is reduced by 8 meters

  Luminousity Lamp - New Add On (Very rare)

  The bulb seems to steal the light produced by other electronics in the area, making them harder to locate.

  While the toolbox is being used to repair, the following effects occur:

  • All generator auras are hidden from the killer.
  • Generator Lights are turned off

  Brand New Part (Visceral - Unchanged)

  This intricate mechanical part feels oddly out of place. It is clean and shiny as if straight out of the factory.

  • Hit a difficult skill check to permanently reduce the required charges on that generator by 10%

  Notes

  Add ons with reused or near useless effects have been removed to reduce Bloodweb clutter.

  Okay, lemme know your thoughts.
• SoGo

  August 15, 2025

  @CompetitifDBD said:

  https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3983353#Comment_3983353

  I just like using the item strategically like that to pop before Pain Res or even Pop (the perk.) Doing that would be alot harder without socket swivels

  That said, here are my changes.

  https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/453855/toolbox-changes-splitting-item-into-two-seperate-items-basekit-sabo-buffs-hook-spawn-logic

  That would be one way to do it. As Sabotage and Repair wouldn't be on the same item, it would be easier to deal with.

  There are still potential balance wrinkles to worry about in the add-on part, tho.
• Lexilogo

  August 15, 2025

  IMO Alex's Toolbox should also be changed, it should have a repair speed bonus of like 30/40% or something.

  • Even if you're going into a match intending to sabo, wouldn't you rather bring a toolbox with a 50% bonus and maybe a sabotage speed addon? I'm not very well versed on how sabo speed translates into real gameplay, but to my understanding a commodius' inherent sabo speed should still let you take a basic attack in front of a hook, sabotage it, then get away, right? If not I imagine a hacksaw addon would still make up the difference
  • It being so intensely specialised pollutes the Chest pool.

  Besides that, some notes about a few of your proposed Addon reworks:

  • I don't really like the proposed change to Instructions here, because it kinda enables a mild form of griefing. I don't think it would be serious, but I can just imagine the clips of a new player applying Instructions thinking they're helping, only for the Killer to interrupt the gen at 98% progress because John Streamer couldn't get any Great skillchecks. I also think the inherent design of Instructions is wrong- It's cool to have an addon helping players who struggle with skillchecks, but disabling them entirely means they get less opportunities to learn. I would prefer something like "while repairing a generator with a toolbox, failing skillchecks has no penalty" or maybe just removing them as your version of Worn Out Tools already helps with skillchecks.
  • The idea of your Scraps rework is great, but IMO it's not thematic for the addon. Maybe it would fit better on Protective Gloves, and to nerf toolbox capacity addons the capacity boosts for Scraps/Wire Spool could be reduced to something like +6/+10 respectively?
  • I really like the idea of the Spring Clamp rework, and if it's applying to a single gen permanently, maybe it could also lower the passive sounds of the generator's pistons? That'd be an idea that doesn't exist in the game yet and could create some interesting survivor/killer mindgames.
• SoGo

  August 15, 2025

  @Lexilogo said:

  IMO Alex's Toolbox should also be changed, it should have a repair speed bonus of like 30/40% or something.

  • Even if you're going into a match intending to sabo, wouldn't you rather bring a toolbox with a 50% bonus and maybe a sabotage speed addon? I'm not very well versed on how sabo speed translates into real gameplay, but to my understanding a commodius' inherent sabo speed should still let you take a basic attack in front of a hook, sabotage it, then get away, right? If not I imagine a hacksaw addon would still make up the difference
  • It being so intensely specialised pollutes the Chest pool.

  Besides that, some notes about a few of your proposed Addon reworks:

  • I don't really like the proposed change to Instructions here, because it kinda enables a mild form of griefing. I don't think it would be serious, but I can just imagine the clips of a new player applying Instructions thinking they're helping, only for the Killer to interrupt the gen at 98% progress because John Streamer couldn't get any Great skillchecks. I also think the inherent design of Instructions is wrong- It's cool to have an addon helping players who struggle with skillchecks, but disabling them entirely means they get less opportunities to learn. I would prefer something like "while repairing a generator with a toolbox, failing skillchecks has no penalty" or maybe just removing them as your version of Worn Out Tools already helps with skillchecks.
  • The idea of your Scraps rework is great, but IMO it's not thematic for the addon. Maybe it would fit better on Protective Gloves, and to nerf toolbox capacity addons the capacity boosts for Scraps/Wire Spool could be reduced to something like +6/+10 respectively?
  • I really like the idea of the Spring Clamp rework, and if it's applying to a single gen permanently, maybe it could also lower the passive sounds of the generator's pistons? That'd be an idea that doesn't exist in the game yet and could create some interesting survivor/killer mindgames.

  Thank you for the feedback!

  I am uncertain about buffing the repair speed of the sabo toolbox, as it could get out of hand. But, maybe a nice middle ground of 25% would be possible.

  Your Instructions suggestion is really good! You raised a good point about beginners having to learn skill checks, so removing the penalty for a bit would be a good choice for a learning add-on.

  I made the Scraps change because I didn't want to do a nerf like this to the charge add-ons. My idea behind it was that you now can't stack them, so the remaining one can stay the same.

  I'm glad you like the Spring Clamp idea. And yes, it would be permanent on the gen you put it on. I don't know if it's possible to make the pistons more silent, but I would love it if it was.
• SoGo

  August 15, 2025

  Edit:

  I changed the Instructions add-on to instead remove the regression from failed Skill Checks. (Idea by @Lexilogo )
• MechWarrior3

  August 15, 2025

  I support your thread! I like it!
• SoGo

  August 15, 2025

  @MechWarrior3 said:

  I support your thread! I like it!

  Thank you! I'm glad you like it.
• HolyDarky

  November 24, 2025

  @SoGo said:

  Hello everyone!

  So, I am now on post talking about how I'd improve an item type number 4. (Links for the rest at the end of the post.)

  Now, it's time for toolboxes. The main things I want to achieve with these changes is to make them a bit less unbalanced, and make them each specialized for a certain kind of playstyle. Enjoy!

  Worn Out Tools:

  • 20 Charges
  • 25% faster Repair speed
  • 50% larger Good Skill Check zones
  • Great Skill Checks do not appear.
  • 30% slower Skill Checks
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action

  This one would be tailored to beginners and people who have problems with Skill Checks. I also decreased the repair speed and removed great skill check zones to avoid potential abuse with Hyperfocus.

  Toolbox:

  • 20 Charges
  • 50% faster Repair speed
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action
  • 50% faster Sabotage speed

  This one would become a jack-of-all-trades, but unlike the current one we have (Commodious), it's not just the best in any thing it does.

  Commodious Toolbox:

  • 28 Charges
  • 50% faster Repair speed
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action

  It should only be focused on repair, not also sabotage. I also trimmed down the numbers just a smidge to even out the field a bit.

  Engineer's Toolbox:

  • 16 Charges
  • 100% faster Repair speed
  • Unlocks the Sabotage action

  The only real change is that it no longer sabotages faster.

  Mechanic's Toolbox (REMOVED)

  Alex's Toolbox (Unchanged)

  Next up, add-ons. These are, imo, some of the main offenders behind why toolboxes get so ridiculously strong in certain ways. These are the changes:

  Instructions (Common):
  • Now can be permanently applied to a single gen, working for all players.
  • Single use, no Skill Check required.

  Clean Rag (Common):
  • Decreased Repair Speed bonus from 20% to 10%.

  Scraps (Common → Uncommon)
  • Increases the bonus from Great Skill Checks by 1%.
  • Causes the Skill Check pointer to have a chance to go backwards, faster, or slower.
  • Causes the Skill Check zones to have a chance to be smaller.

  Protective Gloves (REMOVED)

  Spring Clamp (Uncommon):
  • Now can be permanently applied to a single gen.
  • Single use, no Skill Check required.

  Socket Swivels (Uncommon → Rare):
  • Decreased Repair Speed bonus from 30% to 15%.

  Wire Spool (Uncommon → Very Rare)

  Brand New Part (Visceral):
  • Now, it also reduces the total Charges of the Toolbox by 12.

  Thoughts?

  Related discussions:

  Part 1: Maps / Part 2: Keys / Part 3: Fog Vials

  Bringing toolboxes more in line with each other is a good step because there should be no insane difference between a brown and commodius toolboxes.

  However, Sabo toolboxes and their addons should be reverted since they are way too free and strong since their recent buff.

  I also wouldn't mind if toolboxes either show your aura to your teammates or you see their aura whenever you hit a skill check on a generator - triggers when you have a toolbox equipped and not only when you work with it. It would help SoloQ a little bit more when it comes to coordination.

  However, for the addons, I don't wanna see straight up nerfs or boring adjustments. I wish toolboxes' addons would also enable different fun like killer's addons can do. I have this similar issue with Medkit's addons that they are either boring number things or nothing special. It would be fine if they had a weaker perk version effect or something special that is fun, helpful, but not stupid broken.

  • Giving you the ability to gain a weaker version of Chemical Trap (more gen-progress and a bit less hindered duration).
  • If you finish a generator with a teammate, for the next 50 seconds you both have an increased repair speed of 5% (thus, stacking could be a problem but I rather wish the devs would go back to a stack-prevention like they tried with haste).
  • An addon that always shows you the aura of gens that regress (Rockie Spirit - sure maybe we need to rework or buff the perk then but that wouldn't be bad either).
  • After finishing a generator, for the next 30 seconds, you see the aura of your teammates and for 5 seconds the one of the killer.
  • Whenever you work on a generator, your teammate see the aura of the generator.

  I generally know that some addon changes/reworks would replace or outclass current perks but I just dislike BHVRs philosophy that SoloQ needs perks to have less SoloQ issues. In my opinion, these addon could also have addition effects that help SoloQ in one way or another when it comes to coordination. These are the type of additional effects that wouldn't make SWF stronger but SoloQ better.

  So, I'm fine with the toolboxes changes but for the addons, I want a little bit fun, uniqueness, and ways to help SoloQ.
• SoGo

  November 25, 2025

  @HolyDarky said:

  https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/453793/my-item-revisions-vol-4-toolboxes

  Bringing toolboxes more in line with each other is a good step because there should be no insane difference between a brown and commodius toolboxes.

  However, Sabo toolboxes and their addons should be reverted since they are way too free and strong since their recent buff.

  I also wouldn't mind if toolboxes either show your aura to your teammates or you see their aura whenever you hit a skill check on a generator - triggers when you have a toolbox equipped and not only when you work with it. It would help SoloQ a little bit more when it comes to coordination.

  However, for the addons, I don't wanna see straight up nerfs or boring adjustments. I wish toolboxes' addons would also enable different fun like killer's addons can do. I have this similar issue with Medkit's addons that they are either boring number things or nothing special. It would be fine if they had a weaker perk version effect or something special that is fun, helpful, but not stupid broken.

  • Giving you the ability to gain a weaker version of Chemical Trap (more gen-progress and a bit less hindered duration).
  • If you finish a generator with a teammate, for the next 50 seconds you both have an increased repair speed of 5% (thus, stacking could be a problem but I rather wish the devs would go back to a stack-prevention like they tried with haste).
  • An addon that always shows you the aura of gens that regress (Rockie Spirit - sure maybe we need to rework or buff the perk then but that wouldn't be bad either).
  • After finishing a generator, for the next 30 seconds, you see the aura of your teammates and for 5 seconds the one of the killer.
  • Whenever you work on a generator, your teammate see the aura of the generator.

  I generally know that some addon changes/reworks would replace or outclass current perks but I just dislike BHVRs philosophy that SoloQ needs perks to have less SoloQ issues. In my opinion, these addon could also have addition effects that help SoloQ in one way or another when it comes to coordination. These are the type of additional effects that wouldn't make SWF stronger but SoloQ better.

  So, I'm fine with the toolboxes changes but for the addons, I want a little bit fun, uniqueness, and ways to help SoloQ.

  I think a partial revert would be better.

  Cutting Wire and Hacksaw can go back to what they were, but I would knock down Alex' Toolbox sabo speed to 75% instead.