There is already perks and items for this to help without being an actual free escape for nothing. There are perks helping you to open gate faster (Wake Up!, Sole Survivor, to a lesser degree Resilience), and other perks help you find the hatch (Clairvoyance, Left Behind) which you can open with a key.
now, I kinda think that No Way Out is a little bit too definitive in this scenario and could use some change (eg not working when gates got powers through closing hatch or at least not as long)
There is already perks and items for this to help without being an actual free escape for nothing. There are perks helping you to open gate faster (Wake Up!, Sole Survivor, to a lesser degree Resilience), and other perks help you find the hatch (Clairvoyance, Left Behind) which you can open with a key.
now, I kinda think that No Way Out is a little bit too definitive in this scenario and could use some change (eg not working when gates got powers through closing hatch or at least not as long)
Are you saying survivors should run closed-hatch/lone survivor builds just in case ?
I'll ask again: are you saying survivors should run lone survivor builds just in case? Because this is what you said, explicitly.
No I didn’t say they should. I said there is the option. And just to be clear, opening a gate is possible even without a specific build for it. I just stated there is in-game mechanics that make it easier if it is an actual problem for someone.
now, a pink offering should grant a free personal escape?
No I didn’t say they should. I said there is the option. And just to be clear, opening a gate is possible even without a specific build for it. I just stated there is in-game mechanics that make it easier if it is an actual problem for someone.
now, a pink offering should grant a free personal escape?
Let's keep this for the day bhvr stops making exit gates spawn on the same side of the map :)
It's not a free escape if the survivor manages to escape. The killer can bring noed or whatever.
Let's keep this for the day bhvr stops making exit gates spawn on the same side of the map :)
It's not a free escape if the survivor manages to escape. The killer can bring noed or whatever.
So why not ask for them to fix gate spawns?
the offering proposed here is not healthy for the game and the perks/items I mentioned deal with this issue already while not being blatantly unbalanced. It’s also not a full build you would need to use for that - you have different options and all of these benefit you even in additional scenarios
So after the killer kills 3 survivors, finds hatch first, closes hatch, you want the equivalent of a free escape against most killers for an offering that affects all survivors, as a reward for not slugging for the 4k. No because the counterplay would be a slog and if you don't counterplay its 3ks for days because theres no point in looking for hatch against most killers since open exit gates are an easier escape and no point in not bringing the offering.
This is just bad. Even when the Hatch is closed, the Survivor still has a chance of finding a key or being both clever and lucky with the gates. This is almost a guaranteed escape for someone who just has to hide and watch the team fall.
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the last survivor has already LOST, there is no point in helping him escape.
He hasn't lost until he's dead, so no. I really like OP's proposition, I hope the team sees it
There is already perks and items for this to help without being an actual free escape for nothing. There are perks helping you to open gate faster (Wake Up!, Sole Survivor, to a lesser degree Resilience), and other perks help you find the hatch (Clairvoyance, Left Behind) which you can open with a key.
now, I kinda think that No Way Out is a little bit too definitive in this scenario and could use some change (eg not working when gates got powers through closing hatch or at least not as long)
Are you saying survivors should run closed-hatch/lone survivor builds just in case ?
Are you saying survivors should run free escape offering just in case?
Hatch escapes are already heavily influenced by RNG, there doesn't need to be RNG that triggers upon the failure of the first RNG.
If it's a pink offering then no, it's not free.
I'll ask again: are you saying survivors should run lone survivor builds just in case? Because this is what you said, explicitly.
No I didn’t say they should. I said there is the option. And just to be clear, opening a gate is possible even without a specific build for it. I just stated there is in-game mechanics that make it easier if it is an actual problem for someone.
now, a pink offering should grant a free personal escape?
Let's keep this for the day bhvr stops making exit gates spawn on the same side of the map :)
It's not a free escape if the survivor manages to escape. The killer can bring noed or whatever.
So why not ask for them to fix gate spawns?
the offering proposed here is not healthy for the game and the perks/items I mentioned deal with this issue already while not being blatantly unbalanced. It’s also not a full build you would need to use for that - you have different options and all of these benefit you even in additional scenarios
So after the killer kills 3 survivors, finds hatch first, closes hatch, you want the equivalent of a free escape against most killers for an offering that affects all survivors, as a reward for not slugging for the 4k. No because the counterplay would be a slog and if you don't counterplay its 3ks for days because theres no point in looking for hatch against most killers since open exit gates are an easier escape and no point in not bringing the offering.
This is just bad. Even when the Hatch is closed, the Survivor still has a chance of finding a key or being both clever and lucky with the gates. This is almost a guaranteed escape for someone who just has to hide and watch the team fall.