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PSA: Double Pallet Jungle Gym Spawns Are Back

Braduk Braduk
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Remember that thing they got rid of ages ago? Well guess what they put back in the game.

Below is a link to two recent screenshots of double pallet jungle gyms, one from a Monto video uploaded today and one from a Farmer John video uploaded a few weeks ago:

https://imgur.com/tT9jqQl https://imgur.com/rmCwNuC


Hmm, it's almost like they revert survivor-related nerfs without saying anything...

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  • Peanits Peanits

    Rotten Fields, we meet again.

    This is not a nerf being reverted, they never fully went away and it's actually working as intended. I'll try to keep the explanation simple:

    • Each map has a minimum number of pallets.
    • The game will spawn those pallets as evenly as possible until the minimum pallet count is reached. It does this with a rule that basically says, "No pallet can spawn within X meters of any other pallet." (NOTE: This does not apply to key locations, e.g. the Asylum, the Shack)
    • If the minimum number of pallets has not been reached and there are no remaining valid spawn positions, it will break the rules and spawn it wherever it can.

    This happens more often on maps like Rotten Fields since the most of the map is corn (no pallet spawn locations), and the rest is maze tiles (could be LT walls which have no pallet spawn location). As a result, try as it might, there may not be any other option.

    The silver lining is that when that happens, the map has the absolute minimum number of pallets.

  • Braduk Braduk

    @Peanits said:

    Rotten Fields, we meet again.

    This is not a nerf being reverted, they never fully went away and it's actually working as intended. I'll try to keep the explanation simple:

    • Each map has a minimum number of pallets.
    • The game will spawn those pallets as evenly as possible until the minimum pallet count is reached. It does this with a rule that basically says, "No pallet can spawn within X meters of any other pallet." (NOTE: This does not apply to key locations, e.g. the Asylum, the Shack)
    • If the minimum number of pallets has not been reached and there are no remaining valid spawn positions, it will break the rules and spawn it wherever it can.

    This happens more often on maps like Rotten Fields since the most of the map is corn (no pallet spawn locations), and the rest is maze tiles (could be LT walls which have no pallet spawn location). As a result, try as it might, there may not be any other option.

    The silver lining is that when that happens, the map has the absolute minimum number of pallets.

    Minimum pallets or not, don't you think there should always be enough areas for pallets to spawn to avoid a double spawn? Even with a minimum pallet count a double pallet jungle gym is extremely powerful, which is why most of them were removed. Even if it's a rare occurrence, having one spawn in a game can be devastating for the killer, as shown later in the video where the Huntress is looped around the double pallets long enough to have to leave.

  • CoffengMin CoffengMin

    @Braduk said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/580352#Comment_580352

    Minimum pallets or not, don't you think there should always be enough areas for pallets to spawn to avoid a double spawn? Even with a minimum pallet count a double pallet jungle gym is extremely powerful, which is why most of them were removed. Even if it's a rare occurrence, having one spawn in a game can be devastating for the killer, as shown later in the video where the Huntress is looped around the double pallets long enough to have to leave.

    maybe that huntress was just bad

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  • Horus Horus

    Its just new freddy messing with you

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    @Peanits said:

    Rotten Fields, we meet again.

    This is not a nerf being reverted, they never fully went away and it's actually working as intended. I'll try to keep the explanation simple:

    • Each map has a minimum number of pallets.
    • The game will spawn those pallets as evenly as possible until the minimum pallet count is reached. It does this with a rule that basically says, "No pallet can spawn within X meters of any other pallet." (NOTE: This does not apply to key locations, e.g. the Asylum, the Shack)
    • If the minimum number of pallets has not been reached and there are no remaining valid spawn positions, it will break the rules and spawn it wherever it can.

    This happens more often on maps like Rotten Fields since the most of the map is corn (no pallet spawn locations), and the rest is maze tiles (could be LT walls which have no pallet spawn location). As a result, try as it might, there may not be any other option.

    The silver lining is that when that happens, the map has the absolute minimum number of pallets.


    Ok, If, across the entire map, all pallets are within minimum distance, then it should stop spawning regardless. Minimum number of pallets should only apply if minimum distance has not been met yet.

    Minimum distance should never be broken, imo. If it is impossible to meet both minimum distance and minimum number of pallets, then those numbers should be changed

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