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Simpler StB Rework Concept

Lavoonus Lavoonus
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BHVR has finally given Shoulder some much needed attention, since its pretty out of hand in its current form. However they've twisted themselves in knots trying to solve the issues with it without addressing the main problem: Despite being able to serve as one, it's not an anti-tunnel perk. So what if we just made it one instead?

When a Survivor is hooked twice in a row, this perk activates. While active:

  • If not on Death Hook and next to a Hooked Survivor, press the ability button to take a Hook State from them.
  • Afterwards, Scream and become Exposed for 70/65/60 seconds.

After any instance of Shoulder the Burden is used, this perk deactivates.

This hopefully solves both issues. Now if you don't tunnel you won't have to deal with Shoulder. And if the killer continues to tunnel after the perk is used, it'll reactivate and anyone else who brought the perk will still be able to get value from it.

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  • SpyUA SpyUA

    Despite being able to serve as one, it's not an anti-tunnel perk

    It's literally is a anti-tunneling, that's the purpose of it.

    I am pretty sure your version is literally just a stronger version of shoulder the burden.

  • terumisan terumisan

    @Lavoonus said:

    BHVR has finally given Shoulder some much needed attention, since its pretty out of hand in its current form. However they've twisted themselves in knots trying to solve the issues with it without addressing the main problem: Despite being able to serve as one, it's not an anti-tunnel perk. So what if we just made it one instead?

    When a Survivor is hooked twice in a row, this perk activates. While active:

    • If not on Death Hook and next to a Hooked Survivor, press the ability button to take a Hook State from them.
    • Afterwards, Scream and become Exposed for 70/65/60 seconds.

    After any instance of Shoulder the Burden is used, this perk deactivates.

    This hopefully solves both issues. Now if you don't tunnel you won't have to deal with Shoulder. And if the killer continues to tunnel after the perk is used, it'll reactivate and anyone else who brought the perk will still be able to get value from it.

    wait a minute are you able to take more than one hook state from stb? can you word it better?

  • Lavoonus Lavoonus

    @terumisan said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/472502/simpler-stb-rework-concept

    wait a minute are you able to take more than one hook state from stb? can you word it better?

    Oh whoops, yeah the interaction would remain the same, you would unhook and take 1 hook state.

  • Lavoonus Lavoonus

    @SpyUA said:

    Despite being able to serve as one, it's not an anti-tunnel perk

    It's literally is a anti-tunneling, that's the purpose of it.

    I am pretty sure your version is literally just a stronger version of shoulder the burden.

    Is it though? Anti-tunnel is a major use for it sure, but if the killer hooks a survivor, hooks two other people, then hooks them again it'll work just as well. That's why it's more of just an anti hook perk.

    Compare it to DS pre 4.6.0. It's useful against tunneling sure,but it could also be used as a shield to work on more dangerous gens in the killer's face. The killer doesn't need to be tunneling for it to provide a direct advantage against them, so was it really an anti-tunnel perk?

  • SpyUA SpyUA

    @Lavoonus said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4118901#Comment_4118901

    Is it though? Anti-tunnel is a major use for it sure, but if the killer hooks a survivor, hooks two other people, then hooks them again it'll work just as well. That's why it's more of just an anti hook perk.

    Compare it to DS pre 4.6.0. It's useful against tunneling sure,but it could also be used as a shield to work on more dangerous gens in the killer's face. The killer doesn't need to be tunneling for it to provide a direct advantage against them, so was it really an anti-tunnel perk?

    As a killer main, I would always rather to see ds + dh (assuming both are successfully used on me) then shoulder the burden being used if I am tunneling, best anti-tunneling perk by far.

    I don't tunnel much nowadays cuz of the MMR reset so I often get survivors that shouldn't be queued against me.

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