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Wesker Buffs Lets Gooooo

Dead_Harder Dead_Harder
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Better at loops?

Wiggle room when colliding with objects?

Instantly injuring survivors when they are vaulting??

Hype <3

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  • Dead_Harder Dead_Harder

    @Reinami said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/342549/wesker-buffs-lets-gooooo

    Where is everyone seeing information about changes?

    Dev update august 23

  • ad19970 ad19970

    @Chaellooo said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147521#Comment_3147521

    i agree the hitbox change is a nerf however i dont mind because of his collision fixes increased movement speed etc imo he's gonna be low A tier killer

    Oh the hitbox decrease was absolutely needed. I actually got a bit scared when I read the notes, saw that they were reducing his collision box size, but no mention of his hit box size being reduced. He could've probably gotten too many grabs around corners without the hitbox being decreased a bit.

    Also, decreasing his collision box size, plus the other buffs, will make him a bit stronger at loops, so it's good survivors have a slightly better chance at dodging his dash if they predict his dash right.

    And I agree, I think Wesker will be one of the most balanced killers in the game, especially since, despite being strong, he also has a fair amount of counterplay for survivors, which is so important. I am hopeful that he'll be similarly beloved to go against as Demogorgon. I just hope certain builds like a Coulrophobia anti-heal build won't make him too unbearable to go against.

  • Dead_Harder Dead_Harder

    @ad19970 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147552#Comment_3147552

    Oh the hitbox decrease was absolutely needed. I actually got a bit scared when I read the notes, saw that they were reducing his collision box size, but no mention of his hit box size being reduced. He could've probably gotten too many grabs around corners without the hitbox being decreased a bit.

    Also, decreasing his collision box size, plus the other buffs, will make him a bit stronger at loops, so it's good survivors have a slightly better chance at dodging his dash if they predict his dash right.

    And I agree, I think Wesker will be one of the most balanced killers in the game, especially since, despite being strong, he also has a fair amount of counterplay for survivors, which is so important. I am hopeful that he'll be similarly beloved to go against as Demogorgon. I just hope certain builds like a Coulrophobia anti-heal build won't make him too unbearable to go against.

    Im thinking about unironically using claustrophobia on him. + obviously sloppy. Just dunno what to pair it with.

    My instinct says lethal and floods of rage but thats just the nurse main in me talking

  • ad19970 ad19970

    @Dead_Harder said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147791#Comment_3147791

    Im thinking about unironically using claustrophobia on him. + obviously sloppy. Just dunno what to pair it with.

    My instinct says lethal and floods of rage but thats just the nurse main in me talking

    Understandable, but I really hope BHVR keeps a close eye on that build, and his 40 meter terror radius. I do not want Wesker to become another disliked killer, especially if it's just because of one stupid and incredibly cheap build like that.

    I am not even concerned about the build being op as much as I am concerned about it being simply insufferable to play against, to the point where I wouldn't even blame the survivors if they suicided on hooks. I saw a video of tru3 against that build, it didn't look fun at all (but admittedily that was on The Game map), and if that would become his signature build, then I fear he might just become another disliked killer on the survivors, side, and DBD surely doesn't need that right now.

    It would be particularly frustrating, because I really do believe that Wesker at base could become one of the most liked killers on both sides in general, because his design just seems really, really fair. He is strong, but has a fair amount of counterplay as well. And that's exactly the type of killer that this game needs real bad.

  • Devil_hit11 Devil_hit11

    @DredgeyEdgey said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147476#Comment_3147476

    These are the same changes that demo got and he's like c or b teir

    yeah he had so much potential. sadly, he's just going get counter by dropping pallets and using line of sight between loops because his dash only works in straight line and cannot be curved in any shape or form with long charge time. He also still get punished for using his mobility.

    the other people like dug and onedemo are just arguing about his placements. personally I think demo is better at the chase because his shred has lower start-up, but wesker has better 4vs1 then demo because his infection forces survivors to open crate which takes 5 seconds, use spray, which takes 5 seconds, so he is some minor 4vs1 because of how dangerous his infection is. survivor can't ignore it, but at the same time, they have a ton of sprays to never really be infected.

  • Chaellooo Chaellooo

    @Devil_hit11 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147659#Comment_3147659

    yeah he had so much potential. sadly, he's just going get counter by dropping pallets and using line of sight between loops because his dash only works in straight line and cannot be curved in any shape or form with long charge time. He also still get punished for using his mobility.

    the other people like dug and onedemo are just arguing about his placements. personally I think demo is better at the chase because his shred has lower start-up, but wesker has better 4vs1 then demo because his infection forces survivors to open crate which takes 5 seconds, use spray, which takes 5 seconds, so he is some minor 4vs1 because of how dangerous his infection is. survivor can't ignore it, but at the same time, they have a ton of sprays to never really be infected.

    bruh demo's shred only works in a straight line as well and cannot be curved, he isn't going to get countered by dropping pallets as you get injured if you camp a pallet or a window, you also get injured if wesker charges at you mid-vault. wesker's infection is actually good compared to nemesis t virus. You get hindered and you basically have Exposed status effect

  • Devil_hit11 Devil_hit11

    @Chaellooo said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147843#Comment_3147843

    bruh demo's shred only works in a straight line as well and cannot be curved, he isn't going to get countered by dropping pallets as you get injured if you camp a pallet or a window, you also get injured if wesker charges at you mid-vault. wesker's infection is actually good compared to nemesis t virus. You get hindered and you basically have Exposed status effect

    demo's shred is faster(0.65) and demo has way more walking movement speed during his shred. it makes big difference against better loopers that hug corners tightly. Demo is way better at punishing windows then compare to Wesker. A good demo is pretty intimating in 1vs1, he just kinda loses the pallet break vs gen speed game to be strong. Wesker ability is just too slow m/s to get right angles, too much cast time and he doesn't really got much play at dropped pallets. he can vault them, but it kicks him out of his ability which slows him down and allows survivors to hug corners tightly to make full circle back to the pallet. I do agree his infection is excellent 4vs1.

    I think wesker would have potential to top 5 killer if they gave him more impactful add-ons and allowed his 2nd bound to be used after a vault. sadly the potential did not occur and he turned out to be safe killer.

  • dugman dugman

    @ThatOneDemoPlayer said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147724#Comment_3147724

    Range doesn't really have an impact on either of them. And Shred's maximum distance is 11 Meters.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147692#Comment_3147692

    I'm not underestimating how often Survivors will be fully infected, I'm looking at it from a logical point of view.

    8% slowdown is massive. That's why you'll never see fully infected Survivors, not because of the instadown

    • I’m not sure why you think a difference between 21 meters and 11 meters isn’t a factor. Imagine if you could essentially sniper shot with Demo from twice the distance you can now when you catch someone in the open.
    • Yes, 8% Hindered is significant, but you’re assuming everybody will perfectly handle the infections the entire match which is very unlikely. There’s about a dozen total doses to go around and after the first five or six Bound hits the doses will be more unevenly spread out and used by the survivors. You could easily have one survivor using two or three doses on themselves at 1/3 infection each when another survivor is at 2/3 or full infection and now needs one too for example. By the five minute or so mark you’ll probably have all or almost all the sprays used assuming the survivors are using them and not tunnel visioning the gens and healing instead. It’s very likely to lead to people having full infections, especially in the latter stages of the match.
  • GingerBeard GingerBeard

    @ThatOneDemoPlayer said:

    He's still worse at loops compared to Demogorgon, let's go

    What's your agenda?

  • Dead_Harder Dead_Harder

    @GingerBeard said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147585#Comment_3147585

    What's your agenda?

    Dude is stanning Demo, which is commendable

  • ThatOneDemoPlayer ThatOneDemoPlayer

    @dugman said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147767#Comment_3147767

    • I’m not sure why you think a difference between 21 meters and 11 meters isn’t a factor. Imagine if you could essentially sniper shot with Demo from twice the distance you can now when you catch someone in the open.
    • Yes, 8% Hindered is significant, but you’re assuming everybody will perfectly handle the infections the entire match which is very unlikely. There’s about a dozen total doses to go around and after the first five or six Bound hits the doses will be more unevenly spread out and used by the survivors. You could easily have one survivor using two or three doses on themselves at 1/3 infection each when another survivor is at 2/3 or full infection and now needs one too for example. By the five minute or so mark you’ll probably have all or almost all the sprays used assuming the survivors are using them and not tunnel visioning the gens and healing instead. It’s very likely to lead to people having full infections, especially in the latter stages of the match.

    Range isn't a factor if it's easy to dodge, which both Shred and Virulent Bound are at long range.


    That's Survivors playing badly. That's not in Wesker's control

  • dugman dugman

    @ThatOneDemoPlayer said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3148099#Comment_3148099

    Range isn't a factor if it's easy to dodge, which both Shred and Virulent Bound are at long range.

    That's Survivors playing badly. That's not in Wesker's control

    • You’re assuming survivors are always going to be watching out for the dodge at long range. There are a lot of times when you can get a shot before they realize it, or can predict the dodge and still hit them. (You can technically dodge Huntress hatchets too for instance but they doesn’t stop good Huntress players from landing them at long range.)
    • You’re confusing “playing badly” with “not playing literally perfectly”. Very few players are going to play absolutely perfectly, particularly if not all four of them are on comms together.
  • Dead_Harder Dead_Harder

    @ThatOneDemoPlayer said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3148099#Comment_3148099

    Range isn't a factor if it's easy to dodge, which both Shred and Virulent Bound are at long range.

    That's Survivors playing badly. That's not in Wesker's control

    virulent bound isnt at all easy to dodge at long range.

    Maybe now it will be but you dont know that and neither do i

  • Chaellooo Chaellooo

    @Devil_hit11 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147885#Comment_3147885

    demo's shred is faster(0.65) and demo has way more walking movement speed during his shred. it makes big difference against better loopers that hug corners tightly. Demo is way better at punishing windows then compare to Wesker. A good demo is pretty intimating in 1vs1, he just kinda loses the pallet break vs gen speed game to be strong. Wesker ability is just too slow m/s to get right angles, too much cast time and he doesn't really got much play at dropped pallets. he can vault them, but it kicks him out of his ability which slows him down and allows survivors to hug corners tightly to make full circle back to the pallet. I do agree his infection is excellent 4vs1.

    I think wesker would have potential to top 5 killer if they gave him more impactful add-ons and allowed his 2nd bound to be used after a vault. sadly the potential did not occur and he turned out to be safe killer.

    look at a youtube video comparision wesker breaks pallets faster with his iri addon

  • QwQw QwQw

    Was super happy to see they smoothed out his collision. I feel like he's going to be a very strong killer.

  • Ginnypig Ginnypig

    @dugman said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3147520#Comment_3147520

    His grab and throw into another survivor is literally buffed, the person you hit with it still takes damage and now also on top of that takes Deep Wounds.

    This live version of Wesker is significantly better than the PTB version almost across the board. Call it buffs or bug fixes, that’s just semantics.

    Hi ;-)

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