Dredge can be too oppressive

Sluzzy

I have versed two Dredge killers very recently that used Lery’s map offering and Devour Hope.  This is not fair and balanced. Finding totems on this map is a nightmare, especially when a killer is bloated with several abilities.

You can’t see a thing on this map and with a high mobility killer, no cooldown to traversing the map, anti-loop, how does BHVR think survivors are supposed to win? Where is the “fairness”?

Haddie has 3 useless perks and can’t deal with the Dredge.

Devour Hope needs a nerf, Dredge needs a nerf, and certain maps need to be fixed so it is at least possible to see when his third power is activated. When you can’t see a vault that is only 5 meters in front of you, that is a serious problem with game balance. We can easily make the game scary without completely making the game unfun and unwinnable for one side.

It is NOT fun to verse. Matches should have reasonable chances of winning for both sides and the Dredge with certain perks and map offerings is not it.

Disclaimer: I have already played as the Dredge and he is very easy to use.

Iron_Cutlass

@GoshJosh said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2995910#Comment_2995910

The teleport is overpowered. I would make locked lockers take triple as long as they do now for him to escape them. The cool down should also be longer by base (maybe 25 seconds per teleport usage, which would also make it a more meaningful decision whether or not you use up to all three charges). Certain lockers should never be traversable (shack if it has basement, lockers in and near other basement spawns, and any immediately next to exit gates). Would also consider him only being able to traverse lockers by first going near one, so it can’t be spammed on demand like it can now.

And for how powerful Nightfall is, I think it would be more fair if survivors were given a visual indicator (like Freddy or Pinhead) of how long before it starts.

His teleport isnt an issue, if he teleports to a set of lockers, he will always teleport to the locked locker, so you can always lock 1 (but not 2) of the set of lockers to hinder his teleport. The animation for him teleporting to a locked locker gives the survivors plenty of time to make some distance, even with the addon that decreases the time to get out. And even if you do lock multiple lockers, he still has to waste time breaking the locks manually. Id say his teleport is balanced because it has it's advantages and disadvantages, and includes built-in counterplay that let's survivors strategize how and when to use given resources. Even without locks, the killer still has an auditory warning that he has teleported to a locker, and has a visual effect on the locker if he sits in the locker for more than 8 seconds (to discourage camping). It's fun to plan ahead and around it, at least in my opinion, and never saw it as insanely oppressive and most of my time has been spent playing against the Dredge, and Ive faced some insane Dredge players, but even still, he is just kind of mediocre in my opinion.

Also with Nightfall survivors are given an auditory warning that Nightfall is about to begin (which also plays for the killer as well), Ive literally never struggled because of Nightfall directly, I always make sure to look at my surroundings and use my knowledge of loops and tilesets to micromanage where to loop in case of the Dredge showing up.