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Legion is not good in my opinion.

BunnyTheHutt BunnyTheHutt
in General Discussions

Legion is easily the weakest killer in the game. A lot of people in this community say we have to wait till we can say how good/bad he is but its been two days since his release so I think now is the time to discuss him.

1: He moves at 110% movement speed. This is an un-needed hinderense that makes chasing hard. When Feral Frenzy is on cool down you just kinda hobble towards survivors that can easily just loop you till gens are done. Other killers who move this slow such as Hag and Huntress have abilities or add-ons that make this slow non existent.

2: Feral Frenzy is pointless in chases. If you only used Feral Frenzy in chases it would take 4 hits to down a survivor. And if this was not bad enough you have too wait until your meter is charged enough to get a hit in. After the hit you take about 2 second slow cool down from the hit and then a half second fatigue timer. This gives any half decent survivor more then enough time to get away, or run to another infinite too waste more of your time.

3: He is outclassed by every single killer. His Deep Wound ability is easily replaced by Sloppy butcher on any killer, and sloppy does a better job at delaying the game with hits. Playing trapper with Sloppy Butcher, Brutal Strength, Bamboozle, and NOED with no traps would be much better then playing Legion. Freddy is hands down the worst killer in the game, but at least he still only takes people down in 2 hits and his ability does slow the game down when people are asleep.

4: Deep Wound is a horrible concept to base a killer off of. The fact that anyone can just mend themselves too fix this makes Feral Frenzy completely useless. The way survivors use to be able to save themselves from borrowed time was to run self care, which also helps them not have to rely on other survivors who you may not find in time or may screw up skill checks and alert the killer too your location. Mend doesn't even have skill checks, its just "hold M1 and completely make an entire killer pointless." Plus it doesn't even tick off when in chases, so you can just let Legion run you around while you have Deep Wound, wait for them too leave you to not waste time, then just mend yourself back too normal, forcing Legion to hit you with Feral Frenzy, then repeat for 5 gens.

5: He is not even close to intimidating, much less scary. Every other killer, including Hag and Freddy, have some thing that makes them and the game they are in intense when the going gets going. With Hag you have too watch your step too not activate a trap, with freddy its when you hear his lullaby and you don't know where he is or if he has seen you. With Legion, he has the sprint but you can see him coming a mile away, and with prior knowledge as too how he works the only emotion I feel is pitty because he can't do anything. If he applys Deep wounds you just wait till he goes away and remove it, if Legion is chasing you you can just loop any infinite and waste all of his time till he goes away because hes too slow. And if he does use Feral Frenzy to hit you 4 times you still are just gonna be put on a hook like any other killer, but by the time it happens 2-4 gens are done. Only way too really be scary is with an ebony mori, but thats more on the mori then Legion.

8: Legion goes way too far when he leaps over a pallet/window with Feral Frenzy. Monto's survivor video on theLegion shows that you can loop him with a pallet because of how far he throws himself. The whole point is too vault over pallets, not vault over the map. His drop should be in front of the pallet/window like every survivor.

7: His name is not even close to what he does. This is not a big deal but it is kinda annoying that he is called Legion when there is still only 1 person in the match. When I saw the teaser then heard his name, I thought he would be able too send out fake killers too scare people, and that he would get an auditory sound que when one of the fakes would spot a survivor, but he doesn't do anything that resembles a legion of killers. A more appropriate name would be The Slasher, or The Shanker, something along those lines.

Now I want too list the things that make Legion good. There are not many, but there are a few things he does nicely.

1: He can catch up too any survivor using Feral Frenzy. If a survivor waits till Legion gets up close then uses Sprint Burst then they will take a hit because Feral Frenzy is almost the same speed as a survivor using Sprint Burst, but it lasts much longer. It also takes out anyone using Dead Hard too get too a pallet/window will usually take a hit because you can just fly through the window/ pallet and cut the loop by its head. But then he has too hit them 4 times or waste the loop cut with a fatigue and lets the survivor revive the loop.

2: He is incredibly small. Legion's about as tall as Freddy, which makes map where infinites that have tall walls great for mind games. Plus if you face the wall then survivors can't even see your red stain or you, which might make players make a bad mistake which would lead too a hook.

3: His mori is the best in a while. The flow and animation of it is so clean it puts all others too shame, even Pigs and Spirits.

4: Feral Frenzy hides your aura. I was using Object of Obsession on PTB and it would not show Legion if he was using Feral Frenzy. This might be a bug, but if it is not then this could be great too sneak up to people who use Object while on a gen too get a head start in a chase too then get run down by Feral.

5: Legions perks are amazing. All of his perks have incredible potential for all killers, including himself. Iron Maiden would be godsend on Doctor, while Mad Grit would be great if paired with Franklin's Demise. Discordance is great on the Pig as its just a greater version of Surveillance and with her 0 terror radius while crouched she could sneak up on you if you are not paying attention.

For final thoughts, I feel Legion has INCREDIBLE potential too be a monster. He could be the greatest killer next to Billy and Nurse if a few things were tweaked a little, Such as...

1: Get rid of the Fatigue when you hit someone with Feral Frenzy who has Deep Wound. Its just an extra penalty that doesn't really makes sense. Imagine if the Pig landed a dash attack, it went on cool down, then she had to wait another half second with a pointless fatigue timer that doesn't even make sense.

2: It should not take 4 hits to down someone when using Feral Frenzy. I don't really know how you would fix this but it makes Legion a really bad killer. Freddy with the worst perks and worst add-ons can at least down a survivor in 2 hits. Imagine if you are using the Spirit and you hit someone after phase walk, but instead of downing them they just get the speed boost and run off while they have a pointless debuff that hinders more then helps. She would be no where near as good as she is if this was true.

3: He needs to land at the same location as survivors when vaulting pallets/windows. They both need too land at the same location so that one of legions greatest strengths is not turned against him as shown in Monto's survivor video when he is fighting Legion.

4: Deep Wound should tick down while not in a chase OR you need to find someone too heal it instead of you being able too heal it. Deep Wound is a really bad debuff for killers. because how it works now in live is that you can hit them, activate Deep Wound, then leave them to drop or just follow them till they run out of time, but with this change it makes it too where killers HAVE too hit them a second time, pretty much nullifying the point of punishing bad saves.

I want to hear peoples opinion on this thread, whether you agree or disagree, or have opinions for changes of your own I would love to hear them, just please be civil. Thanks for the read.

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