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Grim Embrace has Grim Oversights

Clockwork_Enigma Clockwork_Enigma
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Current Grim Embrace

Each time a Survivor is hooked for the first time, Grim Embrace gains a token.

Upon reaching 4 tokens, Grim Embrace activates:

  • The Entity blocks all Generators for 30/35/40 seconds.
  • The Aura of the Obsession is revealed to you for 5 seconds.

The Oversights

  • Grim Embrace can only activate when a Survivor is hooked for the first time. This means, much like Barbecue & Chili, No Way Out and Blood Warden, it can be prevented by a disconnection.
    • Unlike those three perks, however, a Survivor that disconnects from the match will result in the Perk becoming unusable.
  • Additionally, hooking the Obsession last will result in the second effect of the perk being completely useless.

So how do we fix it...? This is how...

New Grim Embrace

Each time a Survivor is hooked or caged, Grim Embrace gains a token.

Upon reaching 6 tokens, Grim Embrace activates:

  • The Entity blocks all Generators for 40/50/60 seconds.
  • The Auras of all Survivors are revealed to you for 5 seconds.

As you can clearly see, Grim Embrace is in dire needs of change in order to properly function. With these changes, the perk would not only function like it's intended to, but it would be able to do more and become a really good perk that no one can try to counteract with an exploit.

If this can be implemented within the next one or two patches, players would find this extremely satisfying to use and very rewarding to earn. It wouldn't completely change how the meta works, but it would at least give players a new option in the current and stale meta of the game. In order to counterbalance the changes that are more rewarding and make the perk more obtainable, you now need 6 tokens instead of 4.

The changes to the perk would be risky, but the reward would be worth the risk.

Comments

  • CakeDuty CakeDuty

    I don't think it's a good idea with a 60 seconds generator block. That's just a free hookstate the killer can camp, and survivors can't do anything about it. Otherwise I really like the rework idea! :)

  • Clockwork_Enigma Clockwork_Enigma

    @CakeDuty said:

    I don't think it's a good idea with a 60 seconds generator block. That's just a free hookstate the killer can camp, and survivors can't do anything about it. Otherwise I really like the rework idea! :)

    That's what I was worried about. It does give a free hook state for the Killer if they do decide to camp. The original 30/35/40 seconds might still be good, but I do feel if that remains the same, the aura reading of the perk should be increased or changed.

    There are two additional ideas I had in the event that we instead keep the original 30/35/40 seconds and change the aura reading:

    • The aura reading duration could be increased from 5 seconds to 8 seconds.
    • Or the aura reading is now based on how close to a Generator a Survivor is, with a lingering aura duration of 3 seconds when they leave that range. The approximate range would be 8 meters.

    Would these sound better?

  • CakeDuty CakeDuty

    @Clockwork_Enigma said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2973526#Comment_2973526

    That's what I was worried about. It does give a free hook state for the Killer if they do decide to camp. The original 30/35/40 seconds might still be good, but I do feel if that remains the same, the aura reading of the perk should be increased or changed.

    There are two additional ideas I had in the event that we instead keep the original 30/35/40 seconds and change the aura reading:

    • The aura reading duration could be increased from 5 seconds to 8 seconds.
    • Or the aura reading is now based on how close to a Generator a Survivor is, with a lingering aura duration of 3 seconds when they leave that range. The approximate range would be 8 meters.

    Would these sound better?

    I definitely think 40 seconds + 8 seconds of aura reading on everyone sounds fair. Discourages camping by giving you knowledge where everyone is and avoids the situation where the Obsession is the last hooked.

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