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Why is AFK Pig exploits allowed?

Sluzzy Sluzzy
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Why did it require urgent attention to put two hooks at the top of the police station and quickly changing Boil Over but a Pig going AFK and preventing survivors from playing a match not being addressed? Why is both sides not having or being held to the same standards of proper sportsmanship? This is an extremely bad exploit and warrants immediate attention from the developers. This definitely needs to be fixed now and not next year.

Two people died because the killer was AFK.

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The killer is not even worried about his repercussions.

Comments

  • sizzlingmario4 sizzlingmario4

    Can't believe I'm saying this, but for once I agree with Sluzzy.

    No but seriously, this is stupid and needs to be changed. The addon itself is actually really cool but being able to do this with it is not.

  • Shaped Shaped

    Because she is cute.

  • linancy linancy

    If BHVR ban them, will it not drastically lower the pig's sales? 

  • AetherBytes AetherBytes

    AFK pig does not hold the game hostage (in face the opposite). Library of pain could.


    This does not mean I agree with it however.

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    @Pulsar said:

    It shouldn't be a thing. It's a shame too because it's ruining some actually well-designed Pig add-ons for the majority of players because some dumbasses want to exploit them.

    Can't believe I agree with Sluzzy.

    Rule of thumb: Never agree with certain people, regardless of whether you would normally agree with their stance when someone else says it. If that person says that stealing candy from babies is wrong, bring a cup to drink babies' tears from. :P

  • PlaysByShady PlaysByShady

    @SunsetSherbet said:

    saying it's AFK is just an attempt to try and make it bannable via assumption. Every pig I have seen doing this is not AFK. They are actively sitting there, watching. Many start spamming roars if you get close, or move around to look at you. I have also seen Pigs who immediately go on the offensive once all the traps are off or the gens done, which they wouldn't be able to do if actually afk.

    You'd need actual proof of the person afking, which you straight up cannot provide or prove. No one is removing paying customers off of an assumption.

    It should be changed, but people should stop trying to pretend it's bannable or anything. It's extremely toxic but not bannable, and will almost certainly get fixed down the line.

    ^^ this

    If the killer was genuinely AFK, they wouldn't be in any strategic position - they'd be wherever they loaded into the trial - and the game could/would end normally.

    Miscategorising the problem doesn't resolve anything.

  • str4wberryp str4wberryp

    @Brokenbones said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2816232#Comment_2816232

    How's it the pig meta if it's supposedly not consistant and "rare"

    And you don't have the devs approval, they just aren't banning people for it

    You know what else was in the same boat for a long time? Stretched resolution.

    Of course I do, according to the devs kills = skill. Same as NOED, it's a skilled form of gameplay. If I don't kill all of them with the AFK strat, I can finish off the remaining ones with NOED and my hidden number will go up.

    Ez MMR.

  • CrashMADDS13 CrashMADDS13

    So that's what you do? Go around threatening f tier killer players on the end game chat?

  • Madjura Madjura

    @AetherBytes said:

    AFK pig does not hold the game hostage (in face the opposite). Library of pain could.

    This does not mean I agree with it however.

    AFK Pig is not holding the game hostage, correct. The RPD before the added hooks was also not holding the game hostage though, at least all the cases that I am aware of, going up there and becoming essentially unhookable with Boil Over.

    The "Holding the game hostage" rule is very consistently applied:

    • Is the game currently progressing? If yes, the game is not being held hostage.
    • If no: Are you being prevented from contributing to making the game progress for a long time? If yes, your game is being held hostage.

    Library was not holding the game hostage because as a Killer you could down people which causes the game to progress through their bleedout timer.

    If you were a Survivor who did not go to the library, but whose teammates all did, then your game was also not being held hostage because you could repair generators. I don't know if you could report your teammates for not participating in the game normally but if that were the case then the report would be valid for that reason, and not because the game was being held hostage.

    Regarding sitting in front of the boxes: Removing collision is a terrible idea because that disables valid uses of blocking Survivors into a corner, for example if the only other Survivor is currently dying on the hook. Even without collision as Pig you could just camp the box and attack anyone who comes near you and lock down one box that way.

  • SkeletalElite SkeletalElite

    This is kinda boring but I dont think its a huge deal because it's not a particuarly good strategy

    You have about 31.36% chance of no kills, 42.19% for 1 kill 21.10% for 2 kills 4.69% for 3 kills and 0.396% for 4 kills.

    Of course after the hats are all out of play you can MAYBE get 1 more kill by camping with NOED but those are still not good odds, even if you consistently camp 1 additional person to death thats still a 2k or less 73% of the time. Reality is though even half decent survivors will have the gens done and gates ready to go before all your hats have resolved themselves and you wont catch anyone to camp as a result

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