The Nurse and The Wraith

My suggestion is that the both of them should have a cooldown after they used they power.The Wraith abused his bell without any cooldown and The Nurse with teleporting(even though she has a little cooldown after she miss the atack, its not enough). I think I am not the only one who thinks the same.

Comments

  • @DianaTheDuck said:

    My suggestion is that the both of them should have a cooldown after they used they power.The Wraith abused his bell without any cooldown and The Nurse with teleporting(even though she has a little cooldown after she miss the atack, its not enough). I think I am not the only one who thinks the same.

    The wraith certainly doesn't need a nerf!

    And the nurse is powerful but her killrate is largerly the lowest in the entire rooster due to her high skillcap.

    Sure she COULD handle a little nerf after the numerous buff she received in these months, like the third blink addon and the correction of the numerous bug affecting her.

  • Learn how to play against them instead of asking for a nerf. Wraith is weak and Nurse is the best balanced killer in the game.

    @Zolfo16 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/305250/the-nurse-and-the-wraith

    The wraith certainly doesn't need a nerf!

    And the nurse is powerful but her killrate is largerly the lowest in the entire rooster due to her high skillcap.

    Sure she COULD handle a little nerf after the numerous buff she received in these months, like the third blink addon and the correction of the numerous bug affecting her.

    Bug fixes are not buffs. That is making something work as it’s supposed to.

  • for Nurse Just it make it so all post blink attacks count as special. there that it.

    Wraith is annoying but no nerfs needed

  • @IlliterateGenocide said:

    for Nurse Just it make it so all post blink attacks count as special. there that it.

    Wraith is annoying but no nerfs needed

    That is a major nerf for no reason to an objectively and statistically balanced killer.

  • @SuzuKR said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751570#Comment_2751570

    That is a major nerf for no reason to an objectively and statistically balanced killer.

    Well man... nurse is the strongest killer in the game :)

    And yes, those were bugfixing but with the bugs nurse sstill performed great, now probably will perform even better.

    At high MMR she is the best, i think she can handle some minor nerfs, otherwise top survs will only meet her.

  • @Zolfo16 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751588#Comment_2751588

    Well man... nurse is the strongest killer in the game :)

    And yes, those were bugfixing but with the bugs nurse sstill performed great, now probably will perform even better.

    At high MMR she is the best, i think she can handle some minor nerfs, otherwise top survs will only meet her.

    She is proven repeatedly to be even balanced against players of even skill who know how to play against a Nurse. MMR just makes it unlikely to actually get a matchup like that. But that’s not Nurse’s fault. This would apply to literally anyone. If one side is much better than the other or one side doesn’t know how to play against the other, of course the outcome is obvious.

  • @SuzuKR said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751570#Comment_2751570

    That is a major nerf for no reason to an objectively and statistically balanced killer.

    i dont think it would be that major at all. only affect exposed mostly.

    especially since alot of perks are becoming useable on special attacks now and hopefully more in the future

  • @IlliterateGenocide said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751588#Comment_2751588

    i dont think it would be that major at all. only affect exposed mostly.

    especially since alot of perks are becoming useable on special attacks now and hopefully more in the future

    Removing her synergy with Exposed perks is major.

  • @SuzuKR said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751606#Comment_2751606

    She is proven repeatedly to be even balanced against players of even skill who know how to play against a Nurse. MMR just makes it unlikely to actually get a matchup like that. But that’s not Nurse’s fault. This would apply to literally anyone. If one side is much better than the other or one side doesn’t know how to play against the other, of course the outcome is obvious.

    No man.... at tournament level it's always her and spirit or her and blight. She is the best that killers have to offer.

    There is no killer better than her.

    IF YOU PERSONALLY consider the best killer to be balanced and therefore the others to be too weak.... well ok.

    But if she was balanced BEFORE the correction of the bug, now she must be "more than balanced" and she can handle some minor debuff.

    This is the point.

  • yeah but im sure most people agree exposed perks on nurse are busted

  • @IlliterateGenocide said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751625#Comment_2751625

    yeah but im sure most people agree exposed perks on nurse are busted

    Everything is busted when you can't defend with pallets nor windows.

    Against Nurse you need a completely different skillset.

  • @IlliterateGenocide said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751625#Comment_2751625

    yeah but im sure most people agree exposed perks on nurse are busted

    And most people don’t know how to play against her. People don’t actually ever have proof of her being busted. Everything they cite either disproves their own point and shows she averages out to around 2 kills and 2 escapes, or it is a blatantly uneven match (survivors don’t know how to counter Nurse, one side is way better than the other, etc).

    @Zolfo16 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751611#Comment_2751611

    No man.... at tournament level it's always her and spirit or her and blight. She is the best that killers have to offer.

    There is no killer better than her.

    IF YOU PERSONALLY consider the best killer to be balanced and therefore the others to be too weak.... well ok.

    But if she was balanced BEFORE the correction of the bug, now she must be "more than balanced" and she can handle some minor debuff.

    This is the point.

    Yes, you have nailed it. Blight and Nurse are in a good state of balance. The others are too weak. Again, fixing bugs is not a buff whatsoever. That is a completely nonsensical argument. Those bugs did not impact her play always anyways. They happened randomly by pure chance. As in, she can still play without facing those bugs quite often. And those bugs are now fixed so that they don’t. It changes nothing, balance-wise. To imply otherwise is just plainly disingenuous.


  • @SuzuKR said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751629#Comment_2751629

    And most people don’t know how to play against her. People don’t actually ever have proof of her being busted. Everything they cite either disproves their own point and shows she averages out to around 2 kills and 2 escapes, or it is a blatantly uneven match (survivors don’t know how to counter Nurse, one side is way better than the other, etc).

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751627#Comment_2751627

    Yes, you have nailed it. Blight and Nurse are in a good state of balance. The others are too weak. Again, fixing bugs is not a buff whatsoever. That is a completely nonsensical argument. Those bugs did not impact her play always anyways. They happened randomly by pure chance. As in, she can still play without facing those bugs quite often. And those bugs are now fixed so that they don’t. It changes nothing, balance-wise. To imply otherwise is just plainly disingenuous.

    Man, one bug make pallet stuns while blink longer and another one made you recharge the blink slower while holding another blink.and those bugs were on EVERYONE.

    The removal of these 2 things alone make the nurse stronger.

  • @Zolfo16 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2751641#Comment_2751641

    Man, one bug make pallet stuns while blink longer and another one made you recharge the blink slower while holding another blink.and those bugs were on EVERYONE.

    The removal of these 2 things alone make the nurse stronger.

    You are free to cite conclusive statistical proof that Nurse overperforms on average when playing against people of equal skill who know how to play against Nurse.

  • Nurse is only killer that is on-par in chasing with survivors, play her yourself and try to understand it.

    Every one of moves that you do, is mindgame against her.

  • @fulltonon said:

    Nurse is only killer that is on-par in chasing with survivors, play her yourself and try to understand it.

    Every one of moves that you do, is mindgame against her.

    Exactly. This is precisely what makes her the most balanced and skilled killer to play as and against.

  • Guys. I PLAY NURSE! Why you always assume the other persons know nothing about one the topics? It is the game we all play! Guess what! Nurse is a killer everyone has! DUH!

    And I NEVER SAID it is overpowered. I said she is the best. And i said that, considering some bug improvement that were issues, she MUST BE BETTER NOW.

    YOU SAID that she is the only one acceptable and the other are garbage. YOU SHOULD GIVE STATISTICS.

    Or my english was poor and not comprehensible enough, it may be, or you do not read AND understand.

  • Wraith already got butchered by his lunge nerf and COH existing. He doesn’t need another nerf.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/305250/the-nurse-and-the-wraith

    The only people who demand nerfs like that are whiny survivor mains. Sorry not sorry for saying it.

    The nurse and wraith are incredibly strong killers, in the hands of experienced players. They have a severe learning curve to master.

    You can't just demand nerfs Everytime you lose a match dude. Nerfs should only be needed in the event that something is full blown game breaking, or the statistics are showing an incredibly wide margin between win/loss.

    For example. I wanted the devs to fix the pinhead issue where you couldn't solve the cube when a chain hunt was going. But that's game breaking. If you can't solve the cube, you can't end the hunt, and the hunt keeps you from working generators. Instant game hostage situation.

    I'm not gonna come on here and be like 'I got killed by the clown this morning, his poison isn't fair. Everyone knows he needs to be nerfed' 😭😭😭

    I agree with you , i just was pissed of about them in all my match , i had like 6 match one after another with them, one at a time and i wanted to relieve myself thats all =)))))

  • @DianaTheDuck said:

    My suggestion is that the both of them should have a cooldown after they used they power.The Wraith abused his bell without any cooldown and The Nurse with teleporting(even though she has a little cooldown after she miss the atack, its not enough). I think I am not the only one who thinks the same.

    If nurse had a longer cooldown, like Blight for instance, her base movement speed should be higher to compensate. Kind of what she would be if both iridescent addons were base kit.