Power role
Seems survivors are not satisfied with anything enless it puts them into the power role. Post 2.0 patch survivors were the ones who controlled the game and now that killers can do that without billy or nurse there's been a uproar of posts for survivor buffs. That's just the way im seeing it at least
Edit: ok I was not expecting this post to receive so much attention. This post was pretty dull and was more like a rant concerning all the people who don't understand how this type of game is ment to be balanced. However there are some really good arguments in here so id recommend reading them and giving them the good old up vote for not being trolls and supporting their aguements with reasonable facts or reasons.
Edit: ok I was not expecting this post to receive so much attention. This post was pretty dull and was more like a rant concerning all the people who don't understand how this type of game is ment to be balanced. However there are some really good arguments in here so id recommend reading them and giving them the good old up vote for not being trolls and supporting their aguements with reasonable facts or reasons.
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So you do not understand the core mechanic for asymetrical games?
Do you want us to explain?
In an asymmetrical game, a team of 2 or more players that are statistically weaker than 1 other player must use coordination and teamwork to overcome the singular player that will have more power, the power role. Dead by Daylight may be a "horror" game but it an asymmetrical horror game. The game needs to be balanced around 4 survivors working together to overcome 1 killer otherwise the player base will eventually grow bored and leave. The key is reaching a perfect balance. Survivor needs to be challenging and scary without feeling like a chore. At the same time, the killer must be fun to play as without being too luxurious as otherwise, we will see too few hosts and not enough connectors, which creates problems.
Except none of you really understand what "power role" is meant to be. The DM in DnD is the power role, because he is literally in command of the game. He is the God of the game, in a sense.
Killer is a not meant to be a power role. You are the "aggressor", meaning that you are the one to force action, but you are by no means meant to be "in command" of the game. Likewise, survivors don't command the game. They can't stop a killer from camping/tunneling someone if the killer so choose. They control the pace of the game (to an extent) and that's it. Neither side is designed to be a power role and neither side acts as power role in practice. You merely have an aggressor (killer) and defender (survivor).
So sweet… you keep showing your cluelessness … that's so funny^^
How about you stop embarrassing yourself?
Survivor are in charge and determine the pace of the game, they are "in control" and so they are the "power role".
What they are not, is a "defender", because the KILLER is the defensive role, he protects stuff from being taken by the "aggressor" (survivor). The killer is protecting his objectives and catches.
Get you crap straight before you bring false assumptions.
Killer chases survivors, meaning there are the aggressor and survivors are defenders (though I admit aggressor/defenders are not the most EXACT words here as both sides can perform offensive and defensive types of actions, point is that they are the opposite of what the killer is). If you can't see that simple thing then you're just blind.
Survivors determine the pace of the game TO AN EXTENT. But it's not beyond the killer's control to affect the pace of the game too. Hook 1, slug 1, watch the game come to a standstill. Killer can also choose to defend the 3 closest generators so that they can control the pace once the game reaches a certain point. Offer a mori and off someone super quick to slow down the game CONSIDERABLY. Therefore in a sense, both parties control the pace of the game in a sort of tug-of-war, survivors want to speed up the game while killers want to slow it down. And if this is the case, then neither side can be considered a true power role, as a power role implies that one side has complete control over the game.
Also can you ever make a point without resorting to ad hominems?
lol
I am just using YOUR terminology and the killer are "defending" stuff, still you call me blind for seeing it otherwise.. your are so funny.^^
It's really entertaining seeing you not having a clue about the words you use… tell me again.. what do you see as "ad hominem"? (Just for giggles.)
not all killers are viable at rank 1 i use the teir list from the killers discords and they rank each killer based on power with no addons and no perks played at maxium skill taking into account current buffs and nerfs and bugs nurse billy and hag are the easiest to be viable with as their power is strong and perks and addons only increase that power rest of the killers are under that with killers that are good but need a addon or perk to be really powerful killers that MUST have addons and perks to be good and killers with any addons and perks have an extremly hard time also like what peasant said this is supposed to be a 4v1 assymetrical game and each survivor is supposed to be 25% of the killers power ratio but honestly atm id say survivors are roughly maby 30 to 40% of a killers power ratio possibly stronger and until the devs can balance this as orginally intended it wont be a balanced game
also anyone throwing out im rank 1 on both sides so i must be right there are a ton of people who have played the game just as long but literally refuse to ever hit rank 1 as its toxic never any fun cancerous af and no reason to hit high rank in a game that has never been seen as competitive im personally am 1 of those i dont have alot of game time only about 600 hours but i dont think ill ever go for rank 1 as every thing ive heard from big name streamers to friends and my GF who plays that rank 1 isnt worth the time or effort to get to since it is just plain toxic and seriously long que times but that doesnt mean my opinion is any less invalid
survivors are to have a challenge, killers are bloodpoints big deal, killers are how they should be, survivors are how they should be, killers should be stronger than the survivors, besides kruger he doesnt count
To the devs a "balanced killer" gets about 2k a match. However to the dbd community this is considered a tie or a loss to the killer regardless of the side. Because of this a "balanced killer" to the community is actually a killer who can 3k or 4k often regardless of what the devs say.
Lol "balance" and "power role" don't really go together xD
this is one they use @AChaoticKiller
And here we go again…
In an asymetrical game, there is one side with the advantage in numbers and one in advantage of "power", that 2nd one is referred to as "the power role".
And an asymetrical game is "balanced" when all player from the numberous side combine are the same strength as the "power role".
Yeah what's wrong with the Clown? I think he's pretty good.
@AChaoticKiller @Rex_Huin clown is bugged atm and his bottles explode in his hand even if u have clear line of sight as for freddy and huntress think they are decently map needy plus need addons/perks to be decent
piggy and wraith are underrated and have alot of poteintal but are skill reliant and addon needy at times but can cope without