Jigsaws sketch or grate of gears?

Wanting to run the rigged beartrap build by mixing either of them with tampered timer. Wondering which is more valuable making it a 1/5 chance or making it take longer to search a box. (Both on a big map)

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  • @Mary_Saotome said:

    Tampered Timer isn't worth it. It only shaves off 30 seconds. You want the rigged build? Run Jigsaws Sketch AND Crate Of Gears.

    ah, what?

  • Both give almost the same value, but I think Crate of Gears is slightly better because of the reduced trap setting time.

  • @supersonic853 said:

    Wanting to run the rigged beartrap build by mixing either of them with tampered timer. Wondering which is more valuable making it a 1/5 chance or making it take longer to search a box. (Both on a big map)

    Crate of Gears is better for reducing the timer for actual trap kills. I tested this extensively a while back, utilizing different Pig addon combos to see how they affected the game and how valuable they were.

    However, I personally love playing with 6 boxes, since you can see them running around forever doing nothing if they're unlucky.

    As always, Pig is at the mercy of RNG, so if they get their trap off immediately your addons don't matter. And if the timer is never started (common issue) you won't get any value out of them, either. The current issue I have with Pig at red ranks is that getting the first down can cost you 3 generators, so you never get any momentum or pressure going for this to matter.

  • @Mary_Saotome said:

    Tampered Timer isn't worth it. It only shaves off 30 seconds. You want the rigged build? Run Jigsaws Sketch AND Crate Of Gears.

    Really? Huh people always told me tampered was amazing.

  • Either works, if you want to have cheap RNG-Kills. With both it is impossible to remove the Headtrap if the Survivor is unlucky (aka last Box) and is not going from Box to Box as fast as possible.

  • @Aven_Fallen said:

    Either works, if you want to have cheap RNG-Kills. With both it is impossible to remove the Headtrap if the Survivor is unlucky (aka last Box) and is not going from Box to Box as fast as possible.

    Mk ill test that (were doing it in customs btw i don't do stuff like this in main game even if its funny to do).

  • @Mary_Saotome said:

    Tampered Timer isn't worth it. It only shaves off 30 seconds. You want the rigged build? Run Jigsaws Sketch AND Crate Of Gears.

    Ok so Otz and Scorpionz (one of the best Pig mains out there) did some math and testing a few months back and found that with Jigsaw's sketch and Tampered Timer, the survivor has just enough time to search all 5 boxes in 2 minutes to get the trap off, and that is without interruptions. With Crate of Gears and Timer, the survivor physically does not have enough time to search 4 jigsaw boxes unless they get extremely lucky with a map that has close jigsaw box spawns.

    So yeah, Tampered Timer does do a lot.

  • @DoritoHead said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2129046#Comment_2129046

    Ok so Otz and Scorpionz (one of the best Pig mains out there) did some math and testing a few months back and found that with Jigsaw's sketch and Tampered Timer, the survivor has just enough time to search all 5 boxes in 2 minutes to get the trap off, and that is without interruptions. With Crate of Gears and Timer, the survivor physically does not have enough time to search 4 jigsaw boxes unless they get extremely lucky with a map that has close jigsaw box spawns.

    So yeah, Tampered Timer does do a lot.

    Ah mk! What about running them both like others suggested. Grate of gears and jisgaws sketch? Would that be better or worse then tampered and grate?

  • @supersonic853 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2129085#Comment_2129085

    Mk ill test that (were doing it in customs btw i don't do stuff like this in main game even if its funny to do).

    I never tested it myself, I am not running Tampered Timer, I refuse to use it. (IMO Pig is capable of being played without Add Ons)

    But Scorpionz talked about it in a video:

    https://youtu.be/fJF1WPKUu8A?t=626

    I also added a Timestamp. He tested it together with Otz.

  • @supersonic853 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2129102#Comment_2129102

    Ah mk! What about running them both like others suggested. Grate of gears and jisgaws sketch? Would that be better or worse then tampered and grate?

    Definitely worse. Don't get me wrong, it still works well, but there's no reason not to pair one of these with Tampered Timer.

    (I personally prefer Sketch and Timer but Crate and Timer is objectively better)

  • @Mary_Saotome said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2129102#Comment_2129102

    However, crate of gears+sketch is much better imo. Tampered timer only takes 30 seconds. Sketch takes maybe 40 because there's one more box across the map.

    Tampered Timer doesn't rely on RNG.

  • @Mary_Saotome said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2129151#Comment_2129151

    Yes it does. If its a small map, then you can still get the trap off. Pig's ENTIRE POWER is RNG based. Including her add-ons. Jigsaws Sketch gives more value because of RNG. In some cases tampered timer might do more, but those cases are the minority.

    Also,bon an unrelated note- Pig's ambush and crouch are also RNG. Ambush depends on short loops, and crouching depends on how dark the map is, and what map it is.

    Timer is still hurt by bad RNG less than sketch.

    Also, I think you underestimate how good 30 seconds off a trap really is. And as I said before, the math has been done and it is extremely difficult to get the trap off in time when Pig combines Sketch and Timer.

  • I might be crazy, but I kind of think double gears is pretty decent if you aren't going regular combat piggy.

  • They are purple so good luck always having them.