How crazy would it be of an idea, for wraith to instant down out of stealth?
ie if it was balanced - ie no lunging, lunging would take it away, and he had a very short window where he could instant down, without him just being able to enter stealth during a chase and get off an instant down.
idk it just feels like most other stealth killers, or killers with stealth mechancis (billy with addons/tinkerer as an example) have instant down potential. - sure nobody would like to go down in one hit to an opponent they don't see coming, but at the same time is that really any different to a ghostface or myers sneaking up on someone?
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The difference is that wraith is a monster with addons. Ghost face and Myers not so much unless it’s tombstone or perma tier 3.
Having a purple windstorm wraith coming to instadown you is ridiculous, and can already be achieved through some of the 1 shot perks in game.
Try dragons grip or MYC with the wall hack addon
Even with addons such as the silent bell and purple windstorm together, the Wraith will still suffer. A decent player can deprive him of his initial hit frequently and he has no other power in a chase.
It is a pretty crazy idea honestly lol. It would destroy casual solo players and just doesn't seem that great of a fix for him. I did make a post on how we could try to rework Wraith. My main concept right now is to have him put a passive effect on survivors over a match using his bell. The question then is what effect or what should it do?
It'd have to be an Ultra Rare add-on, and there'd probably have to be a penalty/condition involved beyond simply "do it out of stealth".
Well if we're comparing to other Killers, Wraith's advantage is supposed to be that he is invisible and faster than any other stealth Killer. This is why he doesn't have an insta-down. What they need to do is increase his speed while cloaked. I genuinely believe he would be at least a B-tier Killer then.
Giving him insta-down would be too hard to balance imo. Either he insta-downs you for free or he misses and now he doesn't really have a power.
I disagree with that, I feel like most players make the mistake of trying to constantly chase with him instead of doing hit and run which is where a lot of wraiths strength lies.
Especially with ruin undying; wraith can comfortably run pretty much every slowdown perk in the game at once if you want. Ruin, thanta, dying light, mangled addon, windstorm, and then play a hideous war of attrition instead of the traditional chasing game.
Either way I think he is too fast to warrant a base kit instadown, we already have ghostface. And as I mentioned he can easily make use of instadown perks if you build him for it.
Wraith is still bad with addons. Against a bit better survivors, you get just outplayed.
It wouldn't be crazy at all, cause like you said: Other stealth Killers have one-shot potential.
You'd just be making him more similar to other stealth Killers.
If stealth Killers are all moved into a singular direction, it'd get quite boring.
The hit and run playstyle with Wraith is a good one, but it is easily undone with healing. Of course, knowing this you should run sloppy butcher, but even then it is still reasonably easy to undo his progress especially with medkits.
I could see this being an add on.
Bent stethoscope: after coming out of stealth, your non-lunge attacks put survivors into the dying state for the next 3 seconds. This can only happen every 30 seconds