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Didn’t Ochido hack on PS4?

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You guys remember that, right?

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  • DeadByFlashlight DeadByFlashlight

    @Kaelum said:

    @powerbats said:
    The daft one would be you since they'e said they can't do bans on PS4 right now which is why they're trying to come to an agreement with Sony on it.

    If you actually knew what you were talking about then you'd know sony doesn't just allow anyone to ban on their network without permission. Also BHVR doesn't see the id of the person connecting, only that yes they have a valid license from Sony's side.

    To ban they'd have to know the PS4 user id which Sony doesn't hand out like candy to any game developer due to privacy laws without you guess it a legal agreement..

    This is partially accurate. Do 3rd party game servers get your console ID? No, but they do get a unique ID for your account that is also unique to their server. Different 3rd parties will get different unique IDs for the exact same PSN account. Only PSN has the ability to map the 3rd party ID number to a PSN account username. So, the 3rd parties can easily ban the user ID that they are given from using their servers, but the user could easily create an alias PSN account and start over, using the PS Plus of the purchasing PSN account.

    P.S. While this banning is possible on the 3rd party servers, it might be a violation of their agreement with PSN, thus the reason they don’t currently do it.

    So BHVR is a 3rd party? Good to know..... but then you cant have BHVR software running on PC while playing DBD or you violate the TOS, oh wait.....

  • powerbats powerbats

    @Might_Oakk said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Might_Oakk said:

    @powerbats said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:
    The devs forget to think of a way to bann people when they ported this game, kinda ridiculous eh?

    Actually it's not the devs fault, they can't ban on sony's platform without their permission. They're currently trying to work out an agreement to be able to ban that way. But unless and until Sony stops being so greedy and proprietary it isn't going to happen.

    You're daft man. All they have todo is add it to the game like they did with pc which they said they are working on. Every console game has bans. Quit spreading misinformation on things you are completely ignorant of.

    The daft one would be you since they'e said they can't do bans on PS4 right now which is why they're trying to come to an agreement with Sony on it.

    If you actually knew what you were talking about then you'd know sony doesn't just allow anyone to ban on their network without permission. Also BHVR doesn't see the id of the person connecting, only that yes they have a valid license from Sony's side.

    To ban they'd have to know the PS4 user id which Sony doesn't hand out like candy to any game developer due to privacy laws without you guess it a legal agreement..

    They aren't doing psn bans they are doing dbd bans. You're brain dead and hopeless kid...

    They're doing bans via the PSN network id which prevents that person from simply buying another PS4 and playing on that one.

  • powerbats powerbats

    @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @Kaelum said:

    @powerbats said:
    The daft one would be you since they'e said they can't do bans on PS4 right now which is why they're trying to come to an agreement with Sony on it.

    If you actually knew what you were talking about then you'd know sony doesn't just allow anyone to ban on their network without permission. Also BHVR doesn't see the id of the person connecting, only that yes they have a valid license from Sony's side.

    To ban they'd have to know the PS4 user id which Sony doesn't hand out like candy to any game developer due to privacy laws without you guess it a legal agreement..

    This is partially accurate. Do 3rd party game servers get your console ID? No, but they do get a unique ID for your account that is also unique to their server. Different 3rd parties will get different unique IDs for the exact same PSN account. Only PSN has the ability to map the 3rd party ID number to a PSN account username. So, the 3rd parties can easily ban the user ID that they are given from using their servers, but the user could easily create an alias PSN account and start over, using the PS Plus of the purchasing PSN account.

    P.S. While this banning is possible on the 3rd party servers, it might be a violation of their agreement with PSN, thus the reason they don’t currently do it.

    So BHVR is a 3rd party? Good to know..... but then you cant have BHVR software running on PC while playing DBD or you violate the TOS, oh wait.....

    TOS/EULA, you should read those sometime since that just negates your argument faster than you typed that foolish response you knew was foolish.

  • Kaelum Kaelum

    @DeadByFlashlight said:
    So BHVR is a 3rd party? Good to know..... but then you cant have BHVR software running on PC while playing DBD or you violate the TOS, oh wait.....

    We are talking about PS4 here, not PC. Sony/PSN is the first party, the account holder is the 2nd party, and the publisher is the 3rd party. On PC, BHVR is not a 3rd party to itself.

  • DeadByFlashlight DeadByFlashlight

    @Kaelum said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:
    So BHVR is a 3rd party? Good to know..... but then you cant have BHVR software running on PC while playing DBD or you violate the TOS, oh wait.....

    We are talking about PS4 here, not PC. Sony/PSN is the first party, the account holder is the 2nd party, and the publisher is the 3rd party. On PC, BHVR is not a 3rd party to itself.

    Do you have a link for the tos on playstation? I am curious now :lol:

  • powerbats powerbats

    @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @Kaelum said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:
    So BHVR is a 3rd party? Good to know..... but then you cant have BHVR software running on PC while playing DBD or you violate the TOS, oh wait.....

    We are talking about PS4 here, not PC. Sony/PSN is the first party, the account holder is the 2nd party, and the publisher is the 3rd party. On PC, BHVR is not a 3rd party to itself.

    Do you have a link for the tos on playstation? I am curious now :lol:

    https://www.playstation.com/en-us/network/legal/terms-of-service/

  • Kaelum Kaelum

    @DeadByFlashlight I am not sure what you are asking for. The definition of parties is just standard contract law terms, and is based on a reference point. If you want to read the PSN EULA, you can find it very easily. There are multiple contracts in effect.

  • TheHourMan TheHourMan
    They have said that if someone is banned on one account, they will not ban them on other accounts. They will only ban the account that the rules were broken on.
  • Tizzle Tizzle

    You cant hack the save file on PS4, theres no way to access it because its STORED ON THEIR SERVERS.

    Sheesh.

  • powerbats powerbats

    @Tizzle said:
    You cant hack the save file on PS4, theres no way to access it because its STORED ON THEIR SERVERS.

    Sheesh.

    Yet people have been caught with Legacy on PS4 which is impossible for them to have since it was closed off before it came out on console. Just because it's console people think it can't be hacked but consoles are hackable. It just comes down to time, money and willingness to do it.

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  • DeadByFlashlight DeadByFlashlight

    @powerbats said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @Kaelum said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:
    So BHVR is a 3rd party? Good to know..... but then you cant have BHVR software running on PC while playing DBD or you violate the TOS, oh wait.....

    We are talking about PS4 here, not PC. Sony/PSN is the first party, the account holder is the 2nd party, and the publisher is the 3rd party. On PC, BHVR is not a 3rd party to itself.

    Do you have a link for the tos on playstation? I am curious now :lol:

    https://www.playstation.com/en-us/network/legal/terms-of-service/

    This is the general playstation one, but where is the DBD specific one?

  • DeadByFlashlight DeadByFlashlight

    @Tizzle said:
    You cant hack the save file on PS4, theres no way to access it because its STORED ON THEIR SERVERS.

    Sheesh.

    It is indeed possible to hack savefiles on ps4, otherwise legacy wouldnt be a thing.
    And the savefiles on PC are stored on bhvr servers too btw

  • Jack11803 Jack11803

    @powerbats said:

    @Orion said:

    Just because you're an adult doesn't mean you can't enjoy things that kids enjoy. It's OK to embrace your inner child from time to time. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

    It also makes Jack want to hide in lockers and not come out and play.

    HURD U TALKIN #########

  • Jack11803 Jack11803

    @powerbats said:

    @Tizzle said:
    You cant hack the save file on PS4, theres no way to access it because its STORED ON THEIR SERVERS.

    Sheesh.

    Yet people have been caught with Legacy on PS4 which is impossible for them to have since it was closed off before it came out on console. Just because it's console people think it can't be hacked but consoles are hackable. It just comes down to time, money and willingness to do it.

    There was actually a bug for p1 legacy Dwight shirt. Several people got it. Caused them so much trouble to, getting hounded by thousands of people on how they got it. They didn’t even get to keep it in the end

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