How about Nerf Keys AND Mories??

Why is this such a huge topic?

Both items in my opinion need to be either nerfed or fully removed. Here's my reasons

1) Moris (mainly Ebony Memento Mori)

Mori, specifically Ebony Memento Mori is overpowered in my opinion. Not only does it end a game in a matter of a few minutes it also ruins the game for all survivors. Being on the hook once is a common occurrence in this game, and the ability to kill survivors as soon as they get unhooked the first time is unfair in my opinion. All it takes is a tunnelling killer and you're out of that match before the first generator pops. And what is most annoying is that you dont get much blood points due to it, which sums up the whole match as a waste of time for those who aim to make progress. And also that you're likely to de-pip from a match like that which can also be very frustrating. As far as I'm aware, theres no counter to it either which makes it a common choice to leave the match for survivors.

One way to balance this would be to allow moris on death-hook. So either when the survivor has been hooked twice, or has reached the second stage of the sacrifice. But that's just my opinion, I'd like to hear others.


2) keys


Keys, unlike moris aren't able to end a match as quickly as the hatch will spawn once one gen is left while ideally still having all survivors alive in the trial. However the pure ability to dip out of a match before the main objective (5 generators) is even completed isnt fair to the killer either. It also cancels out killer perks who are most effective in end game such as Hex: No one escapes death or Bloodwarden. It also takes away from the possibility to 3-gen and general time in which the killer could possibly kill the survivors.


Theres many ways how this could be fixed. For example, in my opinion, the aura-reading capability of keys seems a bit pushed into the background due to the fact that these grant an easy escape. So my suggestion would be to make keys able to unlock the hatch once you're either the last person left, or after the killer has closed the hatch themselves. It would still be useful, but not overpowered and itd give people a bit of a push to use the aura reading ability more


So in my opinion, even though keys are slightly less of a problem in my eyes, both definitely deserve a nerf. I would like to hear others' opinions


Also sidenote, idc if you rely on these items to get your kills/escapes. I've read some of those posts and all i can say is grow a pair and get good. A good killer doesnt need a mori, and a good survivor doesn't need a key.


Have a lovely day 🥰

Comments

  • @Xayrlen said:

    Keys are fine.

    /s (fixed that for ya)

  • Keys will be nerf in the future, it was confirmed.

  • That's the point of many complaints right now. The timing of both nerfs.

    If both would've been done at the same time, a huge part of the anger regarding the mori nerf would lose their argumentative footing.

    And before anyone comments me that they just did what was ready while the other is more complex and takes time. The nerf to moris is so basic that it could've been done years ago if it was such a health problem to do it right now. And the nerf to keys was promised at the same time with the first moris nerf several years ago, enough time to get even something this complex done.

  • @burt0r said:

    That's the point of many complaints right now. The timing of both nerfs.

    If both would've been done at the same time, a huge part of the anger regarding the mori nerf would lose their argumentative footing.

    And before anyone comments me that they just did what was ready while the other is more complex and takes time. The nerf to moris is so basic that it could've been done years ago if it was such a health problem to do it right now. And the nerf to keys was promised at the same time with the first moris nerf several years ago, enough time to get even something this complex done.

    I agree with you. However if keys were nerfed before moris, there would be the same amount of an outcry. Personally I believe that both items should have been temporarily taken out of the game or disabled while they are being fixed. I know many games who do that. But what irritates me is people who get so angry about it. It's a game after all. And a quite toxic one at that. It requires skill for the most part, well that is unless you use these items.