This is so true. Forcing me to run totem-finding perks over Slippery Meat, Sole Survivor, Lightweight, and Quick and Quiet or whatever other unused combo I like trying out is exactly what makes this game unfun. There's a very solid reason that crows were changed to not be disturbed by survivors crouching by (the interaction with Calm Spirit and Spies), and this exact same logic applies to totems and hex perks here.
I would be okay running totem perks if totems were place-able by the killer tho:
Totem spawns have been for quite some time (this has died down somewhat recently) the subject of a heated playerbase's ire. The history of totems has been difficult, and some of the more memorable highlights were lighthouse totems on hills, totems spawning in the middle of open fields, and totems spawning in LOS of survivors. The developers, since the introduction of totems, have hand-chosen totem spawns, and this post aims to finally break that tradition. Coming from a comment from one of the developers about being unsure if cleansing totems he had placed himself was cheating (humorously stated), I realized that the next step for totem placement was to give the choice to the killer player in each match. Now, this does bring up a series of necessary, complimentary changes that would be needed to shift from developer-placed to player-placed totems, but this post is going to cover all potential issues and pose solutions to each one of them.
The killer receives five dull totems at the start of every match. This is coded into every killer's power, so that just like how GhostFace's crouch is designed, totem placement requires an unused button and is completely optional. The killer may at any point in the trial place down a dull totem (Default E key) directly in front of the killer's own position (this fuctionality is similar to how The Trapper places traps, and this ability includes placing totems inside the basement). Pressing the (E) button again when within 24 meters of the totem will apply the first Hex perk positioned in the killer's loadout (as chosen before loading into the trial). Totems cannot be within 24 meters of one another (cylinder) and take a total of 2 seconds to place into the environment. Consider a summoning from the ground animation (like Freddy's snares).
These changes prevent totems from being too close together, addresses how this ability might function through killer UI, and also (negligeably) provides a potential way for killers to lure survivors (through dull totems) away from objectives.
What this means for NOED
All Hex perks may need to be slightly modified to compensate for this new mechanic, but NOED (and Haunted Grounds) is going to receive special attention in this section. NOED will can no longer be prevented prior to the final gen's completion. Instead, if there is not already a dull totem within 24 meters of the killer, the killer will first have to go through a slowdown and a 2 second animation before lighting the totem, at which point nearby survivors will have a heads up on NOED. This does mean that a killer could hook down a survivor, hook the survivor, and then place the totem right in front of the hook, but scenarios like that already effectively exist currently and do not comprise the majority of experiences with NOED. In the case that this is an issue, the NOED hex might receive a timer and only be able to be applied to a totem for the first 30 seconds following the last gen's completion.
For Haunted Grounds, the hex will not apply to a totem until there are at least two dull totems on the map with the killer within 24 meters of one of them.
Design
Having the playerbase choose their own totem spawns will always ensure that totem spawns are changing from trial to trial and prevents the developers from wasting time and resources on just moving around totem spawns to make finding totems a little harder for players. Additionally, where a killer places his/her totem now carries more meaning and requires more game knowledge and removes any frustration that may arise from particularly bad RNG.
This is so true. Forcing me to run totem-finding perks over Slippery Meat, Sole Survivor, Lightweight, and Quick and Quiet or whatever other unused combo I like trying out is exactly what makes this game unfun. There's a very solid reason that crows were changed to not be disturbed by survivors crouching by (the interaction with Calm Spirit and Spies), and this exact same logic applies to totems and hex perks here.
I would be okay running totem perks if totems were place-able by the killer tho:
Welcome to the world of killers, where running an unused combo you'd like to try out means you're basically throwing the game. Isn't is so much fun?
I mean, I play more killer now than I do survivor (lobbies and that I don't like playing against the newer rigs), and I do successfully run things like Agitation, Third Seal, Whispers, and STBFL on Huntress or Unrelenting, A Nurse's Calling, Bloodhound, and STBFL on Hag or Coulrophobia, PWYF, Deerstalker, and Whispers on Trapper. My builds are very specialized for how I play the game, and I certainly wish that I could use things like Insidious or Unnerving Presence more creatively without being punished by my perk choice so much, but I would definitely say my builds are not "meta" rn and don't result in me throwing the game.
I mean, I play more killer now than I do survivor (lobbies and that I don't like playing against the newer rigs), and I do successfully run things like Agitation, Third Seal, Whispers, and STBFL on Huntress or Unrelenting, A Nurse's Calling, Bloodhound, and STBFL on Hag or Coulrophobia, PWYF, Deerstalker, and Whispers on Trapper. My builds are very specialized for how I play the game, and I certainly wish that I could use things like Insidious or Unnerving Presence more creatively without being punished by my perk choice so much, but I would definitely say my builds are not "meta" rn and don't result in me throwing the game.
It's ultimately a design/balance issue. The best perks and add ons are infinitely better than anything else. Can't blame anyone for not wanting to take losses they don't have to take.
It's ultimately a design/balance issue. The best perks and add ons are infinitely better than anything else. Can't blame anyone for not wanting to take losses they don't have to take.
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>:D
is my face because Soul Guard
Even more if it's a freddy with surveillance xd
Detectives Hunch my man, with the current Hex meta it's your best friend.
Just keep either Detectives Hunch in your build or Soul Guard.
I agree 100%
This is so true. Forcing me to run totem-finding perks over Slippery Meat, Sole Survivor, Lightweight, and Quick and Quiet or whatever other unused combo I like trying out is exactly what makes this game unfun. There's a very solid reason that crows were changed to not be disturbed by survivors crouching by (the interaction with Calm Spirit and Spies), and this exact same logic applies to totems and hex perks here.
I would be okay running totem perks if totems were place-able by the killer tho:
Regardless, thx for the post. Made my day XD
Those bones aren't gonna break themselves
Welcome to the world of killers, where running an unused combo you'd like to try out means you're basically throwing the game. Isn't is so much fun?
Time for the snoozer build!
I mean, I play more killer now than I do survivor (lobbies and that I don't like playing against the newer rigs), and I do successfully run things like Agitation, Third Seal, Whispers, and STBFL on Huntress or Unrelenting, A Nurse's Calling, Bloodhound, and STBFL on Hag or Coulrophobia, PWYF, Deerstalker, and Whispers on Trapper. My builds are very specialized for how I play the game, and I certainly wish that I could use things like Insidious or Unnerving Presence more creatively without being punished by my perk choice so much, but I would definitely say my builds are not "meta" rn and don't result in me throwing the game.
eg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TcGXzH-BNc&feature=youtu.beIt's ultimately a design/balance issue. The best perks and add ons are infinitely better than anything else. Can't blame anyone for not wanting to take losses they don't have to take.
it's true.
That’s my face when playing Killer and two Survivors run up to me clicking the flashlights while moonwalking.
It’s also the same face I get when a Killer first hook Moris while we still have 5 gens.