Solving the biggest issues should be so easy...

When you look at the various threads about what pisses people off most about the game, you will usually find the same list of bugs etc: Facecamping, tunneling, keys, moris, hitboxes, etc.

To then see the devs say they are not focused on a health update, respectively that certain things like facecamping are 'part of the game' is truly devastating and discouraging.

Because so many of these things could very easily be solved with mechanics that are already in the game.

Hitboxes: Every character has a full body model, and usually a hitbox can be applied to that.

Facecamping: PH has shown that it's possible to move a survivor if the killer loiters around the cage, thus it should be possible to do the same for hooks (and reset the hook timer for the survivor), Ghostface and myers, as well as various perks have proven the game can tell where someone is looking and for how long. This can easily be used as an additional factor against face- and proximity camping. The game can tell if a killer stays around the hook because they are kicking gens or looking for a nearby survivor, so it should be able to tell a camper and act accordingly.

Tunneling: The game likewise knows when you are in a chase. So with knowing who you are looking at, it should be able to tell if someone is coming after a recently unhooked survivor without any 'intermission'. Likewise it should be able to tell if a killer simply goes after someone for a moment to then turn around and tunnel.

Keys: Various threads have made good suggestions, from only being able to find keys in the match (rarely) or allowing killers to pick keys up and get a bonus for them.

Moris: Likewise, various very good suggestions on how to change them, ranging from fairer restrictions to more complex mechanics.


The mechanics are there. So please, bhvr, apply them. Facecamping and Tunneling should NOT be part of the game.

Comments

  • @Maperson said:

    Is it camping when I hook the survivor, and all his teammates get close to the hook and I don't leave the hook because I see them?

    depends. the game can tell if you are genuinely engaging with the survivors or just scare them away. Camping I'd say is when you just hit people to scare them away from the hook and/or tunnel the person who just got unhooked instead of hooking who you might have downed in the process.

  • the vast majority of the games I play as solo red rank survivor I don't get tunneled or face camped. Being a solo survivor, I cannot relate to a single thing people complain about with survivors, even moris, because at high ranks if you do any of these things as killer, the game actively punishes you for doing them by deranking you and giving you no points.

    You should probably think about your behavior towards the killer if you are being camped and tunneled in a large portion of your games, or you have a distorted view on what camping and tunneling actually means / you have no experience with playing killer and how situations can arise where it may seem like you're camping and tunneling when it's just the survivors running straight into your face after you've hooked someone.

  • It isn't as easy as you think. The devs need to consider every possibility that might happen in regards to balance and general gameplay and every way the players will try and trick the system and discuss it and come up with several iterations and test it rigorously before they implement it into the game. Also the possible bugs that this system might introduce needs to be considered.

  • There is an even easier way to fix the problems than you have suggested...

    Just stop complaining about them.

    They are part of the game, if you don't like them then find a game you actually do enjoy playing.

  • @MeltingPenguins said:

    When you look at the various threads about what pisses people off most about the game, you will usually find the same list of bugs etc: Facecamping, tunneling, keys, moris, hitboxes, etc.

    To then see the devs say they are not focused on a health update, respectively that certain things like facecamping are 'part of the game' is truly devastating and discouraging.

    Because so many of these things could very easily be solved with mechanics that are already in the game.

    Hitboxes: Every character has a full body model, and usually a hitbox can be applied to that.

    Facecamping: PH has shown that it's possible to move a survivor if the killer loiters around the cage, thus it should be possible to do the same for hooks (and reset the hook timer for the survivor), Ghostface and myers, as well as various perks have proven the game can tell where someone is looking and for how long. This can easily be used as an additional factor against face- and proximity camping. The game can tell if a killer stays around the hook because they are kicking gens or looking for a nearby survivor, so it should be able to tell a camper and act accordingly.

    Tunneling: The game likewise knows when you are in a chase. So with knowing who you are looking at, it should be able to tell if someone is coming after a recently unhooked survivor without any 'intermission'. Likewise it should be able to tell if a killer simply goes after someone for a moment to then turn around and tunnel.

    Keys: Various threads have made good suggestions, from only being able to find keys in the match (rarely) or allowing killers to pick keys up and get a bonus for them.

    Moris: Likewise, various very good suggestions on how to change them, ranging from fairer restrictions to more complex mechanics.

    The mechanics are there. So please, bhvr, apply them. Facecamping and Tunneling should NOT be part of the game.

    Judging by what you wrote, it sounds like YOU should not be in the game. So why are you here? If things are that bad, I would think someone not having fun would mosey on down the the game highway to find something else? And I always love when people say how easy things are to fix, because clearly they understand and know so much about the situation and code. To hear them talk, the evil DEV sit around on piles of money laughing at us and doing nothing. It is all a conspiracy to camp, tunnel, and Mori you!

    The equation is simple; if you are not having fun, you should leave. Vote with your wallet. Your screeds here fall on deaf ears because:

    1. They have no merit.
    2. They are delivered in a non-productive way.
    3. The vocal minority create so many of these that any actual truth in them is drowned out by garbage.

    I hear you won't get camped, tunneled, or even suffer the indignity of the Mori over in Minecraft or perhaps WOW is more your speed? I mean, those games are out there. I'm sure they will be happy to take your money.