Btw, Spirit can have basic attack from their ability but Blight cannot or basic attack is illogical
Devs, would you kindly make us all a favour and explain the though process behind making an attack which:
- Has the exact range as normal m1
- Is used by pressing m1
- Is not referred as "special" attack in the very description of Blight's power
- Has the exact same animation as normal attack
not a basic attack?
While Spirit can perform a basic attack with a boost out of her phasing and Nurse is just vibing with using attack only after her ability and gaining benefits as basic attack?
And, please, don't say that landing a hit from Haunting or Blink is harder than landing a hit from lethal rush, we all know that is a lie.
Blight is already lackluster, it won't hurt allowing him to make basic attacks out of lethal rush.
I said that before and I will keep saying it:
basic attack system is disgusting, illogical, stillborn mechanic and it must be gone or entirely reworked because it is ruining the game
@Peanits @Almo @McLean please, I demand answers. I am sure you possess the information that you are allowed to sure to tell all us why Blight does not have an access to basic attack in his lethal rush.
p.s. "basic attack mechanic serves purpose of simplifying game" - the most hypocritical and shameful thing anybody could say. This mechanic has a lot of illogical exceptions like Blight or Spirit and it must be gone. Stop using it as an excuse to make killers worse.
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I'm repeating the truth, which you continue to ignore. Nurse is to slow to not always have basic attack. Blight isn't. So simple.
Nurse has addons to make her fast and please don't repeat the nonsense how weak are they.
Also, by your very logic, the huntress should be able to basic attack with hatchets since she is too slow to land normal m1 hits often enough which, as we see is not your case.
If you were saying truth, you would've had some real arguments which is not the case here, as repeating one and the same thing I already disproved above isn't an argument.
Nurse has ONE add on to increase her speed and its #########. A literal nerf. She is SLOWER THAN SURVIVORS for christs sake. Huntress is 10 percent faster than them. Also if you play huntress optimally, you m1 survivors anyway, so she isnt related at all to this. Your entire argument is weak.
If you play Deathslinger/Spirit optimally you too M1 survivors w/o power, yet they have basic attack built in their power for whatever reason, but Huntress doesn't. Once again, you are wrong and your argument is invalid.
Because its a hatchet. It isnt a regular weapon. It cant possibly count as a basic attack. How can huntress relate to slinger or spirit, who BOTH have nonlethal powers and rely on basic attacks to get hits? Once again, your argument is invalid.
Blight's power is technically nonlethal so what? Stop saying nonsense
What about the Pig, her ambush attack is technically using her main weapon
she used to be basic but at some point devs though "we haven't nerfed pig enough"
Lethal Rush work exactly like Wraith's Surprise Attack, Nurse's Lethal Blink (notice the name), Hag's Phantasm Attack and Spirit's Grudge. All killer who gain special mobility when using their power all arguably easier to control than the Blight. Even Nurse.
Hell even the Deathslinger Reeled In is treated as a basic attack and he get to inflict Deep Wounds!
All theses attacks with fancy scoring event names are performed with the attack button (M1) and can benefit from perks and status that trigger of basic attack.
The Blight's Lethal Rush is an attack that is performed with the attack button, that only deal a single health state of damage with no other effect and yet it is not a basic attack. For some reason. Seriously, if Nurse and Spirit can benefit from basic attack perks and effect such as the Exposed status why can't the Blight who has a much harder time hitting anyone with Lethal Rush ?
(I realize the same argument could be made for Pig's Ambush and Demogorgon's Shred. But wanted to try this short and focused on the Blight.)
Pig's ambush and Shred are stronger than normal lunge though - Pig has very long lunge and full control over it and demo can basically instantly pounce on survivor within 12 meters. It kinda makes sense why such attacks are deemed strong enough to be not basic. But that's definitely not Blight's case, especially if we remember his attack in rush is even weaker than normal attack as it is restricted by 15 degrees for some reason
Probably because the attack is part of his power and is limited when compared to a basic attack seeing as you can only turn so far with a Rush attack. With the Spirit her power is over before she attacks and has no turning limit with her swing.
I already mentioned the irregularity with Myers. That doesn't mean that Blight's doesn't make sense. If anything, it means that Myers's doesn't make sense. Blight's Lethal Rush lunge does NOT function like a normal M1 attack, so it should not be treated as a basic attack.
A Lethal Rush attack does not function the same as Wraith, Nurse, Hag, and Spirit because it is the only one that has different properties from a basic attack (a condition set on it in order to use it, restricted turning while using it, pretty sure you are locked into a lunge when you attack and can't just do a non-lunge attack). And Deathslinger's attack is still a basic attack as well; his power just inflicts a status condition if you manage to land a basic attack in conjunction with it.
It has the same range
Using it basically ends a rush as your speed drops
It doesn't apply any special effects
The only reason it cannot be called "basic" is because it has a handicapping limitation of 15 degrees which should've been gone on earlier stages of testing.
It also cannot be used until you bounce off something, and I am pretty sure it locks you into a lunge if you use it (i.e. can't just tap M1 for a quick swing like a regular M1).
Anyway it isn't that strong like Shred or Ambush not be a basic attack.
Once again, If SPIRIT who can move at insane speed and make a 3x longer lunge out of phase has basic attack, there's no adequate reason Blight shouldn't have a basic attack for bouncing.
It's not a discussion of whether or not something is strong or weak. It's a discussion of whether or not something functions like a regular M1 attack. Lethal Rush's attack does not.
The basic attack thing is so confusing and inconsistent.
Perks like NOED don't work with Pigs ambush and Demo's Shred, the reason being "you have to press M1 to use it", but then there are killers like Nurse and Deathslinger, they also have to use M1 to attack with their power, but for some reason it is considered a basic attack.
Nurse I can kinda understand, but it seems strange for me how Deathslingers power put survivors into Deep Wound usually, but with NOED they go down instantly, meanwhile Legions power work exactly the same, M2 to M1 to put survivors into Deep Wound, but NOED doesn't work with their power, survivors go into Deep Wounds as usual. I know it'd be OP as heck if NOED worked with Frenzy, but it's just so inconsistent how NOED works with Deathslinger but not Legion
Lethal rush attack does function like a basic attack with an exception of it being handicapped by 15 degree limit. In any other parameter (otherwise not being considered basic) it is a basic attack: it has same range as basic attack, it has same speed as basic attack, it has same animation as basic attack.
Like, I would've had no complaints if I could launch that attack for a huge distance like Oni's demon strike from Demon dash, but I'm forced into a castrated m1 which is mockingly called "special ability".
Lethal rush attack does function like a basic attack with an exception of it being handicapped by 15 degree limit.
I just gave you two other parameters that make it not function like a basic attack.
See that‘s the problem though with discussions regarding a game, or anything honestly nowadays. People get so emotional so fast over other people having different opinions than themselves.
Try to have proper discussions and to understand people that might think differently, and of you don‘t, fine, but at least accept other people‘s opinion or viewpoint. Threatening to post someone‘s post on reddit with the intention to ridicule the Person is a bit extreme.