Is it weird that..

Michiko

I’m running into more and more campers the higher I get in ranks? Can someone explain the strategy behind it (if you camp) because I legitimately want to know? Maybe I’m playing Killer wrong. 

SovererignKing

Mostly it’s because a lot of Killers are crap and just want the Survivors to come to them. Sure, there are legitimate times to camp... but a lot of it’s just campers waiting out to kill one or two folks, then they play catch up at the end with NOED. 

Tsulan

Could be that 3 or 4 gens are done before they get the first hook. Maybe the killer feels pressured to play a certain way, because of how fast the game pace is.

Oblitiry

I always get the killlers that pretend to not camp by moving 15 feet away from the hook. During this time they stare at me from afar while kicking dirt and carving our names into a tree inside of a heart.

Once I'm saved they immediately come back in 2 seconds and down me again before I can even say the safe word.

I constantly hover around rank 5-7 due to bad luck, screwing around and my own shortcomings.

But yeah in my experience most campers at higher ranks want the survivors to rush gens so they can quickly get noed. Because of this I'm now paranoid and try to remove all totems I see.

Michiko

Tsulan said:

Could be that 3 or 4 gens are done before they get the first hook. Maybe the killer feels pressured to play a certain way, because of how fast the game pace is.

But what if it isn’t that? Then whats the strat?

Michiko

Oblitiry said:

I always get the killlers that pretend to not camp by moving 15 feet away from the hook. During this time they stare at me from afar while kicking dirt and carving our names into a tree inside of a heart.

Once I'm saved they immediately come back in 2 seconds and down me again before I can even say the safe word.

I constantly hover around rank 5-7 due to bad luck, screwing around and my own shortcomings.

But yeah in my experience most campers at higher ranks want the survivors to rush gens so they can quickly get noed. Because of this I'm now paranoid and try to remove all totems I see.

Yeah, 7/10 the have devour hope if they play like that. The other 3 I’m convinced they’re just d-words.

Tsulan

@Michiko said:
Tsulan said:

Could be that 3 or 4 gens are done before they get the first hook. Maybe the killer feels pressured to play a certain way, because of how fast the game pace is.

But what if it isn’t that? Then whats the strat?

Remember that camping is wildly used for anything these days. If a survivor loops the killer around the hook, that killer is called a camper, even if it wasn´t his intention.
Killers use BBQ to have a reason to leave the hook, yet survivors are so good at hiding behind a gen or in the terror radius, that there won´t show up a new target for the killer. When that happens, the killer KNOWS that there must be someone nearby. When he starts searching = camping.

Michiko

meshugganah said:

Michiko said:

I’m running into more and more campers the higher I get in ranks? Can someone explain the strategy behind it (if you camp) because I legitimately want to know? Maybe I’m playing Killer wrong. 

it is the only way to effectively counter the rampant use of microphones, unless hillbilly, nurse or hag.  i touched one as killer and turned back.  7 as survivor now and once i touch 1, i am doing the same.  not my cup of tea.

Same here, I’m not into it at all. Honestly thought it’d be much more longer and strategic gameplay but its actually worse than lower ranks to be quite frank.

Michiko

Tsulan said:

@Michiko said:
Tsulan said:

Could be that 3 or 4 gens are done before they get the first hook. Maybe the killer feels pressured to play a certain way, because of how fast the game pace is.

But what if it isn’t that? Then whats the strat?

Remember that camping is wildly used for anything these days. If a survivor loops the killer around the hook, that killer is called a camper, even if it wasn´t his intention.
Killers use BBQ to have a reason to leave the hook, yet survivors are so good at hiding behind a gen or in the terror radius, that there won´t show up a new target for the killer. When that happens, the killer KNOWS that there must be someone nearby. When he starts searching = camping.

Ah I see what you mean. Considering I haven’t bought leatherface or any of his perks I didn’t understand the strat of BBQ and how killers use it to their advantage besides just seeing auras from a distance. Makes sense.

powerbats

@meshugganah said:
Michiko said:

I’m running into more and more campers the higher I get in ranks? Can someone explain the strategy behind it (if you camp) because I legitimately want to know? Maybe I’m playing Killer wrong. 

it is the only way to effectively counter the rampant use of microphones, unless hillbilly, nurse or hag.  i touched one as killer and turned back.  7 as survivor now and once i touch 1, i am doing the same.  not my cup of tea.

4 strangers = 30%
2 friends + 2 strangers = 34.1%
2 friends + 2 friends = 9.5%
3 friends + 1 stranger = 17.9%
4 friends = 8.5%

Yes because everyone uses mics all the time in every game. There's countless people that play swf and don't use mics. There's also all those pesky solo players that rampantly use mics to communicate with themselves.

I can understand camping when the gates are powered but when it's a Billy/Nurse/Huntress with Iridescent just standing within face range on 1st hook. That's not because mics at all, it's just a killer being a complete douche similar to the ones killers complain about looping endlessly in 1 spot.

powerbats

@Tsulan said:

@Michiko said:
Tsulan said:

Could be that 3 or 4 gens are done before they get the first hook. Maybe the killer feels pressured to play a certain way, because of how fast the game pace is.

But what if it isn’t that? Then whats the strat?

Remember that camping is wildly used for anything these days. If a survivor loops the killer around the hook, that killer is called a camper, even if it wasn´t his intention.
Killers use BBQ to have a reason to leave the hook, yet survivors are so good at hiding behind a gen or in the terror radius, that there won´t show up a new target for the killer. When that happens, the killer KNOWS that there must be someone nearby. When he starts searching = camping.

Ok this is ironic in a way since killers tell survivors all the time to hide behind a gen and get closer to hook to counter BBQ. So now it's survivors fault the killer searches around the hook causing them to quote unquote camp.

Now if the killer looks around and finds no one that's fine, but when they sit there and do nothing but circle the hook or camp it that's camping. IF they're chasing someone around the hook, that's legit and not camping in any way shape or form.

The person getting chased needs to run the killer away so person can be unhooked, not sit there and try and fake the killer out and prove how cool they are at earning boldness points.

SovererignKing

powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

@Michiko said:
Tsulan said:

Could be that 3 or 4 gens are done before they get the first hook. Maybe the killer feels pressured to play a certain way, because of how fast the game pace is.

But what if it isn’t that? Then whats the strat?

Remember that camping is wildly used for anything these days. If a survivor loops the killer around the hook, that killer is called a camper, even if it wasn´t his intention.
Killers use BBQ to have a reason to leave the hook, yet survivors are so good at hiding behind a gen or in the terror radius, that there won´t show up a new target for the killer. When that happens, the killer KNOWS that there must be someone nearby. When he starts searching = camping.

Ok this is ironic in a way since killers tell survivors all the time to hide behind a gen and get closer to hook to counter BBQ. So now it's survivors fault the killer searches around the hook causing them to quote unquote camp.

Now if the killer looks around and finds no one that's fine, but when they sit there and do nothing but circle the hook or camp it that's camping. IF they're chasing someone around the hook, that's legit and not camping in any way shape or form.

The person getting chased needs to run the killer away so person can be unhooked, not sit there and try and fake the killer out and prove how cool they are at earning boldness points.

This makes me want to punch someone. I can’t stand it when Survivors Loop me as Killer, or when I am Survivor (on the hook or not) when some moron loops the Killer near the hooked person. 

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CornChip

I like the ones that soft camp or patrol around the hook looking for that sweet 1 Kill.. then end up with a score of 6K and think they are doing it right haha

powerbats

@SovererignKing said:

This makes me want to punch someone. I can’t stand it when Survivors Loop me as Killer, or when I am Survivor (on the hook or not) when some moron loops the Killer near the hooked person. 

Yeah I've had so many games where someone obviously gets seen so the killer slow plays it out then gets chased around hook to 2nd stage then gets downed. The 1st person dies, 2nd gets hooked and killer goes off and looks for the smart ones.

@ZombieGenesis said:
I use BBQ as a reason to leave the hook but if I hook someone, look around and see no one, guess what? I assume you're near the hook and waiting to unhook the survivor the second I'm out of eyesight. So what do I do? I look around the hook for the hiding survivors. Survivors need to get better at mind games when it comes to things like BBQ. Instead, they hide and think they're super sneaky. Well, everything has consequences.

Well again my comment before about killers advising that's what to do is ironic since it's do this well wait we know your close so ignore that prior advice. I'll get close to hook if I'm out in open and no gens are close but I'm not getting that damn close.

Tsulan

powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

@Michiko said:
Tsulan said:

Could be that 3 or 4 gens are done before they get the first hook. Maybe the killer feels pressured to play a certain way, because of how fast the game pace is.

But what if it isn’t that? Then whats the strat?

Remember that camping is wildly used for anything these days. If a survivor loops the killer around the hook, that killer is called a camper, even if it wasn´t his intention.
Killers use BBQ to have a reason to leave the hook, yet survivors are so good at hiding behind a gen or in the terror radius, that there won´t show up a new target for the killer. When that happens, the killer KNOWS that there must be someone nearby. When he starts searching = camping.

Ok this is ironic in a way since killers tell survivors all the time to hide behind a gen and get closer to hook to counter BBQ. So now it's survivors fault the killer searches around the hook causing them to quote unquote camp.

Now if the killer looks around and finds no one that's fine, but when they sit there and do nothing but circle the hook or camp it that's camping. IF they're chasing someone around the hook, that's legit and not camping in any way shape or form.

The person getting chased needs to run the killer away so person can be unhooked, not sit there and try and fake the killer out and prove how cool they are at earning boldness points.

Not ironic. Simple fact. When survivors cry about BBQ being op, I tell them to hide behind a gen. 
This has consequences. Since the killer won't see anyone, he might camp.
Every survivor who has even the slightest skill, can stay in the open, count to 4 and run somewhere else. Who's not skilled enough for this, hides behind a gen.

Survivors want the killer to leave the hook, but don't want to give him a new target. They want the best of everything.

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powerbats

@Tsulan said:

Not ironic. Simple fact. When survivors cry about BBQ being op, I tell them to hide behind a gen. 
This has consequences. Since the killer won't see anyone, he might camp.
Every survivor who has even the slightest skill, can stay in the open, count to 4 and run somewhere else. Who's not skilled enough for this, hides behind a gen.

Survivors want the killer to leave the hook, but don't want to give him a new target. They want the best of everything.

Actually it is ironic since if you hide behind the gens the killer will assume someone's camping close and if it's a Billy/Nurse well then you're asking to get rekt really quickly by standing in the open. I'll stand in the open when I can't get to behind a gen or close enough to hook but if it's a Billy/Nurse I'm against i go super far away. Because I know even if i move for 4 seconds around after hook they're usually right on top of me or close to it by then.

I've got no problem giving them a new target to chase except when that's practically suicidal, Billy with controller strering and Moonshine etc=death.

SovererignKing

Tsulan said:

powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

@Michiko said:
Tsulan said:

Could be that 3 or 4 gens are done before they get the first hook. Maybe the killer feels pressured to play a certain way, because of how fast the game pace is.

But what if it isn’t that? Then whats the strat?

Remember that camping is wildly used for anything these days. If a survivor loops the killer around the hook, that killer is called a camper, even if it wasn´t his intention.
Killers use BBQ to have a reason to leave the hook, yet survivors are so good at hiding behind a gen or in the terror radius, that there won´t show up a new target for the killer. When that happens, the killer KNOWS that there must be someone nearby. When he starts searching = camping.

Ok this is ironic in a way since killers tell survivors all the time to hide behind a gen and get closer to hook to counter BBQ. So now it's survivors fault the killer searches around the hook causing them to quote unquote camp.

Now if the killer looks around and finds no one that's fine, but when they sit there and do nothing but circle the hook or camp it that's camping. IF they're chasing someone around the hook, that's legit and not camping in any way shape or form.

The person getting chased needs to run the killer away so person can be unhooked, not sit there and try and fake the killer out and prove how cool they are at earning boldness points.

Not ironic. Simple fact. When survivors cry about BBQ being op, I tell them to hide behind a gen. 
This has consequences. Since the killer won't see anyone, he might camp.
Every survivor who has even the slightest skill, can stay in the open, count to 4 and run somewhere else. Who's not skilled enough for this, hides behind a gen.

Survivors want the killer to leave the hook, but don't want to give him a new target. They want the best of everything.

This is also true. I don’t mind BBQ, it’s better he Killer leaves than camps. Survivors just can’t make up their minds. Hey want the best of both worlds, and complain when they don’t get both... Killers do the same mind you... yeah, we didn’t get the gameplay we wanted, but we’re getting the balance (slowly). Survivors got the gameplay they wanted of Looping, but not the balance they wanted. 

Nobody got exactly what they wanted...