Pig is underpowered and needs a buff, heres why

tylxr_jay

(keep in mind i play both survivor and killer frequently but survivor just a touch more often)

i think alot of us can agree that the pig is very very easy to counter and will struggle against even the most average red rank players and there are 2 reasons for that.

Firstly, once the traps are used then the pig basically has nothing except an ambush attack which can be heard from miles away and easily avoided anyway.

Secondly, survivors can see the jigsaw boxes before there traps are even active anyway meaning its never even really a problem for a survivor to get it off.

as a red rank survivor, i (and many others) never even struggle against a pig as they are way to underpowered and easily counterable.

examples on making the pig more powerful could go as

1. Rule Set No.2 should be base kit. its not that strong of an addon (definitely not iridescent worthy) but would arguably fit better just as base kit.
2. Combat Straps should also be base kit, currently it takes way too long to crouch.
3. Increase her crouch movement speed from 3.6m/s to 3.95m/s

maybe if something like that happened amanda would be just a little more challenging to play against as a survivor because right now shes just too easy to counter. what would you guys think of a pig buff?

RayrafLPP

I just find it funny that the Devs argument on Rule set no.2 not being basekit was something like:

It encouragesdoing gens and we dont want that, it would be a nerf for pig.

Question is why make an iri add on that in your opinion nerfs the killer

But to be fair i dont have the exact wording in my head so maybe i confused things.

Golden_spider

My biggest complaint is how inconsistent RBT's are at base for slowing are, you can be screwed over as Pig because Survivors just so happened to get the correct box on the first try or be screwed as Survivor because it didn't matter you searched the 3 boxes closest to you first and that one waaaay over there in the corner where nothing of particular value besides maybe a dull totem was the only one that mattered.

Flatskull

Pig is in this weird CRACK where she's potentially insanely powerful and also insanely counterable. This is because certain addons actually make it impossible to check all the jigsaw boxes so if you have bad RNG those survivors are dead. Also she can body block a jigsaw box.

What she needs-as a pig main-

Massive Addon rework. There's no reason to have status effects while a trap is on someone head, it's not fun for the survivor and the traps are at their best when making survivors slow down their gen rush to get the trap itself off. So if there ARE going to be status effects they should trigger when the trap is taken off for a period of time.

Rule set no 2 needs to go...it's legit one of the worse reds in the game. It's worse than oni red seal, which is god awful. It has a VERY limited window to be of any use and will basically do nothing in a gen rush scenario. It just wastes a perk slot. It SHOULD change entirely how the traps work...or better yet actually change the trap itself. To something like giving survs the power to injury each other with a healing animation. Sort of like those jigsaw traps where the key is hidden inside another victim and they got to find and guess which one.

or something. I dunno. anything really...rule set no 2 is so bad that really any change would be an improvement.

Combat straps is legit one of pigs best addons, especially when paired with amanda's letter. Making it base kit would probably nudge her up the tier list more than you realize. Right now she can move and enter a crouching animation at the same time. I don't think it needs a buff. It does it job fine.

Pig dosen't need a crouch movement speed increase. If you want to confuse people and remain somewhat stealthy just enter and exit crouching constantly. It confuses even high level swf players, especially when paired with other TR perks. her crouching is fine, the only buff she needs to it is the ability to grab survivors while crouching. The new maps means it's feasible for piggy to traverse the map in stealth although you may need gen slow down perks.

She needs to have her jigsaw boxes mechanically changed to be more engaging and she needs her skill checks to be affected by either new or reworked addons as well as certain perks. There are so few perks that deal with skill checks for killers that apply to her traps and outside of huntresses lullabye at max level they won't do much-and reallly...when does HL get to even level 4 before being cleansed-

Pig is one of the most versatile killers in the game who can actually take back SOME control of the gen rush from survivors if you can get those downs but her addons don't affect the things that matter enough with most of them frankly being worthless. The jigsaw boxes themselves don't have much of a penalty to failing them which should also be fixed with something more interesting.

Alice_pbg

Rule Set No.2 should be base kit. its not that strong of an addon (definitely not iridescent worthy) but would arguably fit better just as base kit.

While I would personally agree, some people enjoy her current power more and don't want it to change to RSN2.

So the proper way of doing this is pig having 2 base powers. her current one and RSN2. you just choose which one you wanna use on the equipment screen

Zeus

The issue with pig is how inconsistent and RNG reliant her traps are. One game you waste a lot of survivors time and in the other, you barely feel any difference. Pig definitely needs a rework or a good buff and an add-on pass.