BHVR are you not ashamed releasing this PTB?

DwightOP

I had miniscule hope that the PTB Delay would change something with Billy. That BHVR would relize the bad decision and that they considered reverting the nerfs....

But NOPE. You changed nothing and it's even worse than I imagined.

His addons are even weaker WHILE you nerfed his basepower? You haven't buffed any of his addons. Engravings still increases charge time while you removed all addons which decreases charge time. I'm in a nightmare or is this just a delayed April fools joke?

This is by far the WORST patch in the history of DbD. The only patch coming into mind worse than this is when you could flashlight and pallet safe survivor at any time during the pick-up animation.

Devs, you gave Billy a bad one. And the fact you are not embarrassed and publish this PTB with pride is insane.

IMAGINE Matthew cote said "play nurse or Billy if you want to compete" and you gutted both now.

IMAGINE you said "we are happy with how Billy is performing" and you go out of your way to change him for no reason.

IMAGINE you called the Billy nerf "minimal" and it turns out be so massive that I don't want to touch him anymore.

I'm speechless. How could you do him so dirty..

GoodBoyKaru

@Callmehandsome said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1425188#Comment_1425188

Never said anything if Freddy nerf was deserved or not. The point was HE WAS nerfed like i originally said. Where you said he was only "reworked" to be stronger. Also Freddy was nerfed 2 weeks later after he was brought to dbd because rank 20 survivors cried and review bombed the game. So Freddy boi has been nerfed 2 times actually

yeah the first freddy nerf was completely unjustified lmao and im glad bhvr doesnt do those knee-jerk reactions anymore. my bad on saying he wasnt nerfed after though- im so used to people saying his rework made him worse i just kinda assumed.

Vox_Nocturne

I was trying to find posts or info that confirmed the devs were happy with the way he was. I couldn't find it, but found a few posts which stated that they were happy with his power but wanted to update his add-ons.

As survivor, Max was perfectly fine to face. If he hit an object, even the best add-on to reduce the stagger still punished him sufficiently. It takes much practice to get him right for chainsaw mind games and even then it's not guaranteed. He had good map pressure, but you could also hear him, even with a decent sound reduction.

I admit I'm at a loss as to what they were trying to achieve here. Unless there is some bizaar code they've put in that is being used for both Bubba and Max (& I can't imagine that could even be a thing) that links their chainsaws and power, I really do not get it.

On the positive side, the perk changes to Lightborn and Tinkerer are much needed. Not sure about Franklin's power of making the item disappear after a set period of time. They could perhaps change that to the object being thrown 20 metres or so in a random direction from where the survivor is downed to take some more time to find it.

However, it's strange this was considered. I did see some people earlier in the year requesting changes, and no I don't believe in this idea of the devs taking sides - there's ample evidence around to prove this. But this is definitely a mistake. Hopefully they'll realise this before the actual release, but I fear at most they'll just lengthen the time you can rev a chainsaw before cooldown.

LordRegal

@Vox_Nocturne said:

I was trying to find posts or info that confirmed the devs were happy with the way he was. I couldn't find it, but found a few posts which stated that they were happy with his power but wanted to update his add-ons.

As survivor, Max was perfectly fine to face. If he hit an object, even the best add-on to reduce the stagger still punished him sufficiently. It takes much practice to get him right for chainsaw mind games and even then it's not guaranteed. He had good map pressure, but you could also hear him, even with a decent sound reduction.

I admit I'm at a loss as to what they were trying to achieve here. Unless there is some bizaar code they've put in that is being used for both Bubba and Max (& I can't imagine that could even be a thing) that links their chainsaws and power, I really do not get it.

On the positive side, the perk changes to Lightborn and Tinkerer are much needed. Not sure about Franklin's power of making the item disappear after a set period of time. They could perhaps change that to the object being thrown 20 metres or so in a random direction from where the survivor is downed to take some more time to find it.

However, it's strange this was considered. I did see some people earlier in the year requesting changes, and no I don't believe in this idea of the devs taking sides - there's ample evidence around to prove this. But this is definitely a mistake. Hopefully they'll realise this before the actual release, but I fear at most they'll just lengthen the time you can rev a chainsaw before cooldown.

@Peanits said:

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We’re back with another Developer Update, a series of blogposts detailing various changes coming to Dead by Daylight in the near future. This time around, we’re diving into everything chainsaw related, as well as some quality of life improvements coming to the game.

The Cannibal Update

In the 4.1.0 update, we’ve taken some time to revisit Leatherface, as well as some of his perks and his add-ons.

Base Kit Changes

First, The Cannibal’s chainsaw now activates like the Hillbilly’s, rather than needing to be fully charged and then released. This small change prevents instances where you release the button a sliver too early and cancel your chainsaw accidentally. You won’t want to hold it for too long, though, or else Leatherface will go into a tantrum.

Bubba’s Chainsaw now has three charges by default. When starting your Chainsaw Sweep, one of these charges will be consumed. Pressing the power button again while the sweep is active will refresh it and consume another charge, allowing you to continue using your chainsaw for another two seconds. You’ll want to assess the situation carefully, though: Each charge you use will also extend the tantrum and missed attack cooldown, so using more charges can backfire if you’re not able to follow through. Charges refill automatically at a rate of one every few seconds.

Additionally, Leatherface’s maximum movement speed while using his power has been increased from 5.06m/s to 5.29m/s. This, in conjunction with the other changes mentioned above, will make The Cannibal feel much better to play as and much more threatening to play against.

Here’s a preview of the changes in action…

https://youtu.be/IcB3fSRGZs8

Add-on Changes

We’ve done a pass on The Cannibal’s add-ons, with nearly all of them receiving some sort of change. These changes will modernize his add-ons and bring them in line with the standards for Killer add-ons, which are:

• 4 common
• 5 uncommon
• 5 rare
• 4 very rare
• 2 ultra rare

There’s far too many add-ons to list them all here, but here’s a few examples of what you can expect:

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We’re looking forward to seeing what you guys can do with these new add-ons!

Perk Changes

Finally, we’ve reviewed some of Leatherface’s perks to make them more appealing.

Franklin’s Demise

Your vicious attacks make the Survivors drop their item on impact. 

The lost item will be consumed by the Entity after 120/100/90 seconds if it is not picked up before the timer runs out.

Reveal the aura of items on the ground within 32/32/32 meters in a white aura. The aura of items fade to red until they are consumed by the Entity.

Knock Out

Survivors put into the dying state by your basic attacks are not revealed to other Survivors when they are standing outside of a 32/24/16 meter range. 

Survivors put into the dying state by your basic attacks crawl 50/50/50% slower for 15/15/15 seconds.

During this time, Survivors are affected by the Blindness status effect.

The Hillbilly Update

Keeping with the theme of everything chainsaws, The Hillbilly is also receiving some changes in this update. For the most part, we are happy with the way The Hillbilly performs. His power is very versatile, allowing him to quickly traverse the map, zone out Survivors and instantly down them. From a Survivor’s perspective, there is also a reasonable amount of counterplay, leading to interesting chases where the best player often comes out on top.

Base Kit Changes

Given that we’re already pretty happy with the way The Hillbilly performs, the changes to his base kit are minimal. We are not removing any of the options you have with his chainsaw (traversal, feathering, curving, etc.). Instead, we want to focus on the skill-based gameplay and put an emphasis on using your chainsaw effectively, only adding a small drawback to misusing your chainsaw.

In 4.1.0, The Hillbilly’s chainsaw will now feature a new Overheat mechanic. Revving the chainsaw will now cause it to accumulate heat, which can be seen both in the lower left corner around the power icon and on the chainsaw itself. Sprinting with the chainsaw will also cause it to heat up as a much lower rate. This heat will dissipate over time whenever the chainsaw is not being used.

If the Overheat meter fills up completely, it can no longer be used until it has completely cooled down. When this happens, it will cool down at an increased rate. If the chainsaw overheats as you are sprinting, your sprint will not be interrupted.

The goals behind this change is to add a small drawback to misusing the chainsaw, and to add a bit more depth to the chainsaw with resource management.

Check out the Overheat mechanic in action…

https://youtu.be/HJK95Srk5WI

Add-on Changes

Like The Cannibal, we’ve done a pass on The Hillbilly’s add-ons and brought them up to date with the rest of the roster. Once again, we can’t list all of them here, but we look forward to seeing what you can do with them!

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Perk Changes

We’ve also taken the opportunity to revisit two of The Hillbilly’s lesser used perks and spruce them up.

Lightborn

Unlike other beasts of The Fog, you have adapted to light. You are immune to blindness caused by flashlights and firecrackers. Survivors that attempt blinding you have their aura revealed for 6/8/10 seconds.

Tinkerer

When a Generator is repaired to 70% repair progress, it triggers a loud noise notification and you are granted the Undetectable status effect for 12/14/16 seconds.

 

Server Improvements

Currently, hits are handled on the Killer’s end. If they appear to be within range of a Survivor, they will be able to hit them. In most cases, this works well: The Killer is able to reliably hit Survivors, and the Survivors see roughly the same thing on their end with a small amount of latency. If the Killer has a weak connection to the server, however, it can cause some strange looking hits that appear to be out of range, most notably at pallets and windows.

During this upcoming Player Test Build (PTB), we’ll be testing Server Side Hit Validation. Any time the Killer hits a Survivor, the server will check and see if the hit was possible within a reasonable margin. If the Survivor was too far to be hit, the hit is negated.

To put it simply, if you have a stable connection, you won’t notice any difference as the Killer. Your hits will still appear instantaneously and should not be rejected. As a Survivor, however, a Killer with a weak connection should no longer be able to hit your from further away due to their high latency.

Second, we'll be increasing the tick rate of our servers from 30Hz to 60Hz. Basically, this means that the servers sends out information twice as frequently as before, so what you see as a result is more accurate.

We will be monitoring these changes closely over the course of the PTB before proceeding further.

Promo Code System

Last but not least, a new promo code system will appear in the in-game store. This system is exactly as it sounds: It allows you to redeem a promo code for in-game goodies on any platform.

Starting will the mid-chapter update, you’ll notice a “Redeem Code” button in the featured page of the store. Clicking this button will bring up a menu where you can enter your promo code to unlock a reward. These rewards can be anything from clothing to Bloodpoints, or even Auric Cells.

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Keep your eyes peeled once this system goes out, you’ll have a chance to get some codes soon!

This brings us to the end of the July 2020 Developer Update. All of the changes and new features mentioned above will be available for testing in the Player Test Build, opening Tuesday, July 7th Wednesday, July 8th. We look forward to hearing what you think once you’ve had a chance to try them out!

The Dead by Daylight team

There's the thread and the paragraph that they said it.

OutcastEric

@xiozen said:

OMG the crying... the absolute utter crying over the billy changes...

Geesh, this was long over due. Billy was probably one of the most played killers for obvious reasons---this was needed to bring him more in-line with streamlining all killers so that one isn't "over powered" compared to the others. If the game was "only Billy" or "only Nurse" etc., then so be it.. but this game has a variety of killers. Releasing a new killer with powers/add-ons and abilities that is just a cookie-cutter version of what is considered the "best" killer is a waste of time, energy and resources.

Now with this change, you "billy mains" have something else to think about while using the chainsaw instead of just how fast you can mow down a survivor with literally no negative downsides. I embrace and rejoice with these minor tweaks... Billy is still a very strong killer, just with a negative side-effect to his chainsaw, which is over due.

Great Job BHVR, keep up the good work.

Maybe we're just tired of getting shafted by inept devs that dont play their own game

Vox_Nocturne

@LordRegal said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1425473#Comment_1425473

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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/167809/developer-update-july-2020

There's the thread and the paragraph that they said it.

Thank you for finding it! This definitely adds more confusion over why they're doing this change if they seemed content with his power from both a killer and survivor perspective.

It feels to me that they could have focused more on Bubba. Plus, with the bugs surrounding Max, I'd rather them be resolved instead.

LowSpecGamersMatter

@Vox_Nocturne said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1425497#Comment_1425497

Thank you for finding it! This definitely adds more confusion over why they're doing this change if they seemed content with his power from both a killer and survivor perspective.

It feels to me that they could have focused more on Bubba. Plus, with the bugs surrounding Max, I'd rather them be resolved instead.

More focus on bubba, fine tuning him, adding a new chase music (get an ok from the licence holder) etc.

Bubba is much better now but I think it could have been done even better

Han

I play dbd for 3 years now. Bugs are part dbd. I couldn't imagine a new patch without any new bugs. Dbd without bugs wouldn't feel like dbd.