The Kindred Addition

Kindred is probably one of the most underrated non-unique perks of Dead by Daylight.

It's effects can be viewed here: https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Kindred
For those that have yet to experience it.

Now as we are aware the developers have announced adding Kindred as a default bonus to all survivors in the future. This begs the question, how much of Kindred survivors get? 

I think since they want to buff solo players we'll all get Kindred 2 for free and the third tier killer aura will be worked into a separate perk entirely. What are your thoughts on this?

Comments

  • I can accept the change.

    That said, the devs need to address other problems first. Namely, put an end to these strong loops survivors have.

    If the devs just push this Kindred change through, killer will be in a difficult position. Because survivors will have the coordination they need to steam roll a lot of the killers.

  • Well I am glad someone is willing to endure the increased coordination. As a person who periodically plays every killer except Nurse this coordination combined with tougher pallets makes me less than inclined to play killer.
  • @Peasant said:
    Well I am glad someone is willing to endure the increased coordination. As a person who periodically plays every killer except Nurse this coordination combined with tougher pallets makes me less than inclined to play killer.

    I main Nurse.

    Even I am a little worried over this change. All killers can be gen rushed.

  • I personally never thought kindred is a bad perk, quite the opposite, i tend to run it when playing solo.
    Kindred as a default would totally kill camping, which is nice, but would also let survivors know where the killer is heading to after hooking the survivor, so yeah, i'm up for the lvl 2 kindred.
  • @Peasant said:
    Kindred is probably one of the most underrated non-unique perks of Dead by Daylight.

    It's effects can be viewed here: https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Kindred
    For those that have yet to experience it.

    Now as we are aware the developers have announced adding Kindred as a default bonus to all survivors in the future. This begs the question, how much of Kindred survivors get? 

    I think since they want to buff solo players we'll all get Kindred 2 for free and the third tier killer aura will be worked into a separate perk entirely. What are your thoughts on this?

    Kindred is underrated because it helps other players, not yourself, for the same reason BT isnt used by most solo survivors even though its quite strong.

    Kindred will never make it through the PTB though, because I believe devs still want to milk the game a bit instead of killing it. The strong part about kindred is that you see your mates and are aware of their location and intentions, not that you see the killer aura in a very small circle.

  • I don't know how I feel about the change. I am not a fan of Kindred, because in my experience it does the opposite effect of what it is supposed to do. I used kindred for quite some time as a survivior and instead of organizing themselves the other 3 surviviors used my perk to meet up and do gens together throughout the whole match and then escape although the killer did not camp or still all 3 survivors chase to the hook trying to get the bloodpoints and pip and wasting time they could have spend on doing gens. I would wish they would add the option that one can deactivate it when it becomes a standard part of survivor because I do not want it.

  • The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.
  • @Tsulan said:
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That's my biggest concern.

    Imagine how miserable killer will be waiting for the devs to balance out the kindred change.

  • @Mister_Holdout said:

    @Tsulan said:
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That's my biggest concern.

    Imagine how miserable killer will be waiting for the devs to balance out the kindred change.

    It will be miserable for everyone. Killers won´t play because gens will be done faster and survivors won´t play because they sit in a lobby for 45+ minutes.

  • Tsulan said:

    @Mister_Holdout said:

    @Tsulan said:
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That's my biggest concern.

    Imagine how miserable killer will be waiting for the devs to balance out the kindred change.

    It will be miserable for everyone. Killers won´t play because gens will be done faster and survivors won´t play because they sit in a lobby for 45+ minutes.

    Well since there will be survivor sided chase buffs, several folks I know won't play killer. Heck, if it's bad enough I will stop playing for a bit. With shorter gen times what will happen to the killer ranks? I wonder if matchmaking will be the real problem with this new update as survivors completing gens fast ranks them up and causes killers to de-rank. Are non-nurse high ranks doomed?
  • @Peasant said:
    Kindred is probably one of the most underrated non-unique perks of Dead by Daylight.

    It's effects can be viewed here: https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Kindred
    For those that have yet to experience it.

    Now as we are aware the developers have announced adding Kindred as a default bonus to all survivors in the future. This begs the question, how much of Kindred survivors get? 

    I think since they want to buff solo players we'll all get Kindred 2 for free and the third tier killer aura will be worked into a separate perk entirely. What are your thoughts on this?

    Kindred 2 should be base, I agree.
    (Of course, it's a low priority compared to some other perks that need changes, but still I'm up for it.)

  • Should be kindred 3. It’s like trying to give Solo equality with SWF, but giving proximity comms or killer can hear it as well instead. Don’t half ass it. Fully push the coordination then nerf. It’s the only way

  • Peasant said:
    Kindred is probably one of the most underrated non-unique perks of Dead by Daylight.

    It's effects can be viewed here: https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Kindred
    For those that have yet to experience it.

    Now as we are aware the developers have announced adding Kindred as a default bonus to all survivors in the future. This begs the question, how much of Kindred survivors get? 

    I think since they want to buff solo players we'll all get Kindred 2 for free and the third tier killer aura will be worked into a separate perk entirely. What are your thoughts on this?
    They already said seeing the killer next to the hook, not seeing each other
  • I wont mind this change entirely but I do think there will be much more gen rush. Time to main pig again 
  • I am fine with the change. It will however impact how some killers play, especially the stealth types unfortunately. 
  • I feel like some sort of version of bond should be implemented, such as when a survivor is within 24 meters of the hook and another survivor they have the ability to see each other, this can have the same effect as kindred if the survivors are going for hook saves, but not if they are doing anything else.

  • @Mister_Holdout said:
    I can accept the change.

    That said, the devs need to address other problems first. Namely, put an end to these strong loops survivors have.

    If the devs just push this Kindred change through, killer will be in a difficult position. Because survivors will have the coordination they need to steam roll a lot of the killers.

    if they get rid of loops then whats the point of playing survivor if you cant run and escape the killer. you arent suppose to allways kill us

  • Peasant said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Mister_Holdout said:

    @Tsulan said:
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That's my biggest concern.

    Imagine how miserable killer will be waiting for the devs to balance out the kindred change.

    It will be miserable for everyone. Killers won´t play because gens will be done faster and survivors won´t play because they sit in a lobby for 45+ minutes.

    Well since there will be survivor sided chase buffs, several folks I know won't play killer. Heck, if it's bad enough I will stop playing for a bit. With shorter gen times what will happen to the killer ranks? I wonder if matchmaking will be the real problem with this new update as survivors completing gens fast ranks them up and causes killers to de-rank. Are non-nurse high ranks doomed?
    Yeah, we'll probably see even more nurses on high ranks. Because she's the only non loopable killer.
    Funny how survivors complain about only seeing nurse and billy on high ranks, but when someone plays something else, they punish this heavily.
  • I can accept the change.

    That said, the devs need to address other problems first. Namely, put an end to these strong loops survivors have.

    If the devs just push this Kindred change through, killer will be in a difficult position. Because survivors will have the coordination they need to steam roll a lot of the killers.

    How will the killer be in a bad position, does everyone ignore the fact that they said seeing each other would be a bit much and that for the kindred effect they are gonna show killers in range from a hook. It will only be an issue if a killer camps. If you dont camp, it wouldn't bother you. It isn't the full kindred effect. 
  • Peasant said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Mister_Holdout said:

    @Tsulan said:
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That's my biggest concern.

    Imagine how miserable killer will be waiting for the devs to balance out the kindred change.

    It will be miserable for everyone. Killers won´t play because gens will be done faster and survivors won´t play because they sit in a lobby for 45+ minutes.

    Well since there will be survivor sided chase buffs, several folks I know won't play killer. Heck, if it's bad enough I will stop playing for a bit. With shorter gen times what will happen to the killer ranks? I wonder if matchmaking will be the real problem with this new update as survivors completing gens fast ranks them up and causes killers to de-rank. Are non-nurse high ranks doomed?
    These fears doesnt make sense since what shorter gen times? They said they aren't touching gen times. And survivor sided buffs how? After the clown patch the pallet stun registers late and they are fixing it, it created scenarios where killers are guaranteed a hit going through the pallet as the stun is delayed. The blood lust nerf doesn't have to go in as is, as they said. Just play ptb and let them see results. Killing blood lust is a horrible decision along with flashlights working at any phase during the chinese new year event. It was horrible. Buffing survivors in chase is horrible and devs shouldve learned and use math to see that if a survivor gets to blood lust 3 they need the boost because that's a long time in chase. That's 45 seconds, almost a gen just for one hit, possibly 2-3 gens done without ruin for a down. But killers freaking out over gens being done fast over a ptb kindred change that only effects camping killers than idk. More tools for survivors means they can give more tools to killers.
  • @Tsulan said:
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.

    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:

  • @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.

    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:

    They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year.

  • @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.

    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:

    They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year.

    You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks

  • @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.

    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:

    They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year.

    You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks

    Maybe the killer can also see every survivor affected by kindred. That would be fun!

  • Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.

    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:

    They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year.

    You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks

    Maybe the killer can also see every survivor affected by kindred. That would be fun!

    Once again, it isnt broken since survivor cant see each other. I play killer a lot at high rank and don't see how seeing a killer near a hook is an issue if you don't camp? Seems like people just crying. If you aren't camping, this does not affect you. They said survivors seeing each other would be too much, did people freak out when they heard kindred or did they actually watch the stream?
  • @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.

    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.

    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.

    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:

    They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year.

    You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks

    Maybe the killer can also see every survivor affected by kindred. That would be fun!

    Once again, it isnt broken since survivor cant see each other. I play killer a lot at high rank and don't see how seeing a killer near a hook is an issue if you don't camp? Seems like people just crying. If you aren't camping, this does not affect you. They said survivors seeing each other would be too much, did people freak out when they heard kindred or did they actually watch the stream?

    Doesn´t matter if the killer stands 1 meter away or 50 meters. Survivors will still call it camping.

  • Tsulan said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.

    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.

    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.

    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:

    They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year.

    You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks

    Maybe the killer can also see every survivor affected by kindred. That would be fun!

    Once again, it isnt broken since survivor cant see each other. I play killer a lot at high rank and don't see how seeing a killer near a hook is an issue if you don't camp? Seems like people just crying. If you aren't camping, this does not affect you. They said survivors seeing each other would be too much, did people freak out when they heard kindred or did they actually watch the stream?

    Doesn´t matter if the killer stands 1 meter away or 50 meters. Survivors will still call it camping.

    It's not about what they call it, its about the mechanic. If it reveals killers within ten meters, and you dont camp as on you leave the hook the aura doesn't stay. So you sound like someone complaining rather than looking at the mechanics for how effective it is. If it reveals your aura from let's say ten meters, but if you're not staying within ten meters, what is the issue. 
  • Tsulan said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.

    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.

    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.

    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.

    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.

    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:

    They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year.

    You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks

    Maybe the killer can also see every survivor affected by kindred. That would be fun!

    Once again, it isnt broken since survivor cant see each other. I play killer a lot at high rank and don't see how seeing a killer near a hook is an issue if you don't camp? Seems like people just crying. If you aren't camping, this does not affect you. They said survivors seeing each other would be too much, did people freak out when they heard kindred or did they actually watch the stream?

    Doesn´t matter if the killer stands 1 meter away or 50 meters. Survivors will still call it camping.

    It's not about what they call it, its about the mechanic. If it reveals killers within ten meters, and you dont camp as on you leave the hook the aura doesn't stay. So you sound like someone complaining rather than looking at the mechanics for how effective it is. If it reveals your aura from let's say ten meters, but if you're not staying within ten meters, what is the issue. 
    Once again, people are acting like what they brought up is broken or game breaking, it isnt broken. This thing is in the mobile game already and isn't broken, people still get swept. This also helps people just buff killers and perks with gap being bridged. The mobile dbd has many in game communication features and literslly still has infinite loops and gens that takes much less time than dbd and people still sweep. An interesting thing to adopt is what they have in identity v, hitting someone vaulting results in a one hit down.
  • @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Dabrownman1812 said:


    Tsulan said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Master said:
    
    @Tsulan said:
    
    @Master said:
    
    @Tsulan said:
    
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.
    
    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.
    
    
    
    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.
    
    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:
    
    
    
    They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year.
    
    
    
    You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks
    
    
    
    Maybe the killer can also see every survivor affected by kindred. That would be fun!
    

    Once again, it isnt broken since survivor cant see each other. I play killer a lot at high rank and don't see how seeing a killer near a hook is an issue if you don't camp? Seems like people just crying. If you aren't camping, this does not affect you. They said survivors seeing each other would be too much, did people freak out when they heard kindred or did they actually watch the stream?

    Doesn´t matter if the killer stands 1 meter away or 50 meters. Survivors will still call it camping.

    It's not about what they call it, its about the mechanic. If it reveals killers within ten meters, and you dont camp as on you leave the hook the aura doesn't stay. So you sound like someone complaining rather than looking at the mechanics for how effective it is. If it reveals your aura from let's say ten meters, but if you're not staying within ten meters, what is the issue. 

    Once again, people are acting like what they brought up is broken or game breaking, it isnt broken. This thing is in the mobile game already and isn't broken, people still get swept. This also helps people just buff killers and perks with gap being bridged. The mobile dbd has many in game communication features and literslly still has infinite loops and gens that takes much less time than dbd and people still sweep. An interesting thing to adopt is what they have in identity v, hitting someone vaulting results in a one hit down.

    It is broken indeed when survivors can see each other, thats even stronger than coordination via voice comms (in that particular scenario)

    Comparing DBD to a mobile game is just ridiculous, im not gonna comment on that one

  • Master said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Dabrownman1812 said:


    Tsulan said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Master said:
    
    @Tsulan said:
    
    @Master said:
    
    @Tsulan said:
    
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.
    
    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.
    
    
    
    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.
    
    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:
    
    
    
    They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year.
    
    
    
    You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks
    
    
    
    Maybe the killer can also see every survivor affected by kindred. That would be fun!
    

    Once again, it isnt broken since survivor cant see each other. I play killer a lot at high rank and don't see how seeing a killer near a hook is an issue if you don't camp? Seems like people just crying. If you aren't camping, this does not affect you. They said survivors seeing each other would be too much, did people freak out when they heard kindred or did they actually watch the stream?

    Doesn´t matter if the killer stands 1 meter away or 50 meters. Survivors will still call it camping.

    It's not about what they call it, its about the mechanic. If it reveals killers within ten meters, and you dont camp as on you leave the hook the aura doesn't stay. So you sound like someone complaining rather than looking at the mechanics for how effective it is. If it reveals your aura from let's say ten meters, but if you're not staying within ten meters, what is the issue. 

    Once again, people are acting like what they brought up is broken or game breaking, it isnt broken. This thing is in the mobile game already and isn't broken, people still get swept. This also helps people just buff killers and perks with gap being bridged. The mobile dbd has many in game communication features and literslly still has infinite loops and gens that takes much less time than dbd and people still sweep. An interesting thing to adopt is what they have in identity v, hitting someone vaulting results in a one hit down.

    It is broken indeed when survivors can see each other, thats even stronger than coordination via voice comms (in that particular scenario)

    Comparing DBD to a mobile game is just ridiculous, im not gonna comment on that one

    I'm saying, we don't know what the balance is on the killer side, and the two games are actually comparable because the mechanics are damn there copy pasted from dbd with the devs consent. So yes, it is comparable. Did you play it? Probably not. We also don't know if it's the full kindred effect or what the balance would be on the killers side. Many people just complain instead of testing what's coming.

  • Master said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Dabrownman1812 said:


    Tsulan said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Master said:
    
    @Tsulan said:
    
    @Master said:
    
    @Tsulan said:
    
    The kindred buff will be a huge thing.
    
    Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful.
    
    Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch.
    
    But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community.
    
    
    
    That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch.
    
    anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink:
    
    
    
    They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year.
    
    
    
    You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks
    
    
    
    Maybe the killer can also see every survivor affected by kindred. That would be fun!
    

    Once again, it isnt broken since survivor cant see each other. I play killer a lot at high rank and don't see how seeing a killer near a hook is an issue if you don't camp? Seems like people just crying. If you aren't camping, this does not affect you. They said survivors seeing each other would be too much, did people freak out when they heard kindred or did they actually watch the stream?

    Doesn´t matter if the killer stands 1 meter away or 50 meters. Survivors will still call it camping.

    It's not about what they call it, its about the mechanic. If it reveals killers within ten meters, and you dont camp as on you leave the hook the aura doesn't stay. So you sound like someone complaining rather than looking at the mechanics for how effective it is. If it reveals your aura from let's say ten meters, but if you're not staying within ten meters, what is the issue. 

    Once again, people are acting like what they brought up is broken or game breaking, it isnt broken. This thing is in the mobile game already and isn't broken, people still get swept. This also helps people just buff killers and perks with gap being bridged. The mobile dbd has many in game communication features and literslly still has infinite loops and gens that takes much less time than dbd and people still sweep. An interesting thing to adopt is what they have in identity v, hitting someone vaulting results in a one hit down.

    It is broken indeed when survivors can see each other, thats even stronger than coordination via voice comms (in that particular scenario)

    Comparing DBD to a mobile game is just ridiculous, im not gonna comment on that one

    I'm saying, we don't know what the balance is on the killer side, and the two games are actually comparable because the mechanics are damn there copy pasted from dbd with the devs consent. So yes, it is comparable. Did you play it? Probably not. We also don't know if it's the full kindred effect or what the balance would be on the killers side. Many people just complain instead of testing what's coming.

    Kindred just means don't camp, someone is still going for the save anyway, can still 4 man sweep. The issue is not any of this, the issue is how quick gens gets done which is here before and after kindred effect. People will still save and do gens quickly.
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    @Master said: @Tsulan said: @Master said: @Tsulan said: The kindred buff will be a huge thing. Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful. Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch. But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community. That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch. anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink: They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year. You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks Maybe the killer can also see every survivor affected by kindred. That would be fun!

    Once again, it isnt broken since survivor cant see each other. I play killer a lot at high rank and don't see how seeing a killer near a hook is an issue if you don't camp? Seems like people just crying. If you aren't camping, this does not affect you. They said survivors seeing each other would be too much, did people freak out when they heard kindred or did they actually watch the stream?
    
    
    
    Doesn´t matter if the killer stands 1 meter away or 50 meters. Survivors will still call it camping.
    
    
    
    It's not about what they call it, its about the mechanic. If it reveals killers within ten meters, and you dont camp as on you leave the hook the aura doesn't stay. So you sound like someone complaining rather than looking at the mechanics for how effective it is. If it reveals your aura from let's say ten meters, but if you're not staying within ten meters, what is the issue. 
    

    Once again, people are acting like what they brought up is broken or game breaking, it isnt broken. This thing is in the mobile game already and isn't broken, people still get swept. This also helps people just buff killers and perks with gap being bridged. The mobile dbd has many in game communication features and literslly still has infinite loops and gens that takes much less time than dbd and people still sweep. An interesting thing to adopt is what they have in identity v, hitting someone vaulting results in a one hit down.

    It is broken indeed when survivors can see each other, thats even stronger than coordination via voice comms (in that particular scenario)

    Comparing DBD to a mobile game is just ridiculous, im not gonna comment on that one

    I'm saying, we don't know what the balance is on the killer side, and the two games are actually comparable because the mechanics are damn there copy pasted from dbd with the devs consent. So yes, it is comparable. Did you play it? Probably not. We also don't know if it's the full kindred effect or what the balance would be on the killers side. Many people just complain instead of testing what's coming.

    It´s not like we´ve had bad experiences with the devs in the past. Myers nerfs, Freddy, Wraith Cube, etc.
    I really don´t think the devs have a killer buff prepared. Or they would have talked about it.

    Just look at the last stream, where you can see the devs play their own game on low ranks. They think it´s balanced.

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    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Master said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:

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    @Master said: @Tsulan said: @Master said: @Tsulan said: The kindred buff will be a huge thing. Solo survivors will be almost as coordinated as SWF teams. Gen rushes will be more common and SWF will be even more powerful. Devs probably do this to balance the game and nerf survivors hard after that patch. But they need to be quick. Otherwise there won't be much left of a killer community. That rises the questions why then dont buff killers / nerf survivors in general in the same patch. anyway, im off playing monster hunter, good luck my fellow killer mains :wink: They want to see what happens first. Maybe they have an emergency plan. Maybe we get a rushed DLC like last year. You mean like the leatherface BBQ emergency plan? Yeah maybe, but I hope that its not a perk which is the emergency plan, we already have too many mandatory perks Maybe the killer can also see every survivor affected by kindred. That would be fun!

    Once again, it isnt broken since survivor cant see each other. I play killer a lot at high rank and don't see how seeing a killer near a hook is an issue if you don't camp? Seems like people just crying. If you aren't camping, this does not affect you. They said survivors seeing each other would be too much, did people freak out when they heard kindred or did they actually watch the stream?
    
    
    
    Doesn´t matter if the killer stands 1 meter away or 50 meters. Survivors will still call it camping.
    
    
    
    It's not about what they call it, its about the mechanic. If it reveals killers within ten meters, and you dont camp as on you leave the hook the aura doesn't stay. So you sound like someone complaining rather than looking at the mechanics for how effective it is. If it reveals your aura from let's say ten meters, but if you're not staying within ten meters, what is the issue. 
    

    Once again, people are acting like what they brought up is broken or game breaking, it isnt broken. This thing is in the mobile game already and isn't broken, people still get swept. This also helps people just buff killers and perks with gap being bridged. The mobile dbd has many in game communication features and literslly still has infinite loops and gens that takes much less time than dbd and people still sweep. An interesting thing to adopt is what they have in identity v, hitting someone vaulting results in a one hit down.

    It is broken indeed when survivors can see each other, thats even stronger than coordination via voice comms (in that particular scenario)

    Comparing DBD to a mobile game is just ridiculous, im not gonna comment on that one

    I'm saying, we don't know what the balance is on the killer side, and the two games are actually comparable because the mechanics are damn there copy pasted from dbd with the devs consent. So yes, it is comparable. Did you play it? Probably not. We also don't know if it's the full kindred effect or what the balance would be on the killers side. Many people just complain instead of testing what's coming.

    It´s not like we´ve had bad experiences with the devs in the past. Myers nerfs, Freddy, Wraith Cube, etc.
    I really don´t think the devs have a killer buff prepared. Or they would have talked about it.

    Just look at the last stream, where you can see the devs play their own game on low ranks. They think it´s balanced.

    I understand, I'm speaking from gauging the mechanics, built in kindred helps them, but doesn't make it broken. As I said, you can still 4k, it doesnt reveal killer location unless they are camping. The issue is how fast gens are done, and they said they would like to experiment with other objectives for survivors which would be cool. Also, not all devs have the time to play so often because they deal with the game for their job. If I was a dev, I'd have my limit with this game cause that would involve eating and sleeping in the game. Some do play high rank, some play nurse, the devs have various levels just like we as players do. Also, they learned a lot since freddy, using ptbs to test and such. That much Can't be denied. All killers are being visited, two killers a patch it seems so it takes time. Killer mains love to complain and so do survivor mains to be honest. In top tier to be honest and in most viable matches I play in and spectate, matches rank 1-10, killer and survivor, kindred helps but doesn't have a negative impact unless the dude is camp baiting. They are going to get that save before death hook anyway, going to get gens done fast. Kindred is not the issue, looping is not the issue. The issue is survivors dont have many objectives unless the killer forces them which makes chases unrewarding to most killers who don't slug.