By BHVR's own data, Spirit and even Nurse were not over performing.

According to the data they collected from April 1st to April 7th, (a small margin yes, but this is all we have to go by besides anecdotal evidence) Spirit and Nurse were not the highest ranking killers when it came to kill rate.

Hag, Billy, and Trapper all ranked higher than both of them, all three having over 60% kill rate in both PC and Console, while Nurse actually had one of the lowest kill rates on consoles.

If the goal is 50/50 kill rate, two die two escape, then why is it acceptable these three go over that ratio, but Nurse and Spirit suffer consequences for staying within that range?

My answer? I don't have one. Only a suggestion. Collect more data for the public. Give us the numbers.

Comments

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/831101#Comment_831101

    Not just nurse mains, but anyone who does play nurse even occasionally. And it affects all ports of the game, even though BHVR even admitted it was only PC with the problem.

    Exactly. I've posted my thoughts on what exactly was a bad change to Nurse in another thread and it's late here so I'm not going to go super in depth right now (go find that in my liked posts if you want) but to give a real world example of this: I, someone who mained Nurse the few times I cared about rank and got to rank 1 with her, am complaining about how not fun she feels to me to my wife, who also plays the game and only ever plays Nurse for the daily. My wife, hearing this, is now less inclined to even try Nurse.

    Obviously this is a one to one example, but anyone who looks...anywhere DbD is discussed (here, Reddit, Steam, etc.) will see people who played Nurse complaining about how not fun she feels now. That in and of itself is going to put a lot of people off playing her, since she was regarded as the highest skill floor killer in the game before the changes...if she doesn't feel fun anymore on top of that to the people who enjoyed her before, why bother?

    Even with that in mind, she had the worst kill % of all killers across all consoles. So to someone who exclusively plays console DbD and doesn't keep up on news at all outside reading patch notes will see the weakest killer for their platform getting nerfed. This tells them two things: One, that PC is the priority for balance, which I'm sure doesn't feel good, and Two, this killer who was already frustrating to play on console is now weaker. Hard to imagine many new Nurses showing up on Console with that logic, and probably a little resentment for being the clear second class citizens here.

  • @CaptainCastle said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/830844#Comment_830844

    No triggering, you just don't seem interested in actually engaging and instead want to make assumptions about me based on the fact that I watch a popular streamer sometime, while saying "Just use your head brah" to justify your napkin math. Just don't see this conversation going very far so I'll bow out. Laters.

    Saying that you lose 0.45m is not napkin math. Buying 1kg of apples is not napkin math. You threw that random claim from a streamer, which i bet he didnt say, and i disproved it. Gave an example, you ignored it or dont understand or cant be wrong. Whatever

    Here's a Tru3 game.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/507493898?filter=all&sort=time

    Same guy who apparently made that claim. buuullshit. I dont even see a difference. Patient, calculated blink instead of spamming nonstop. Thats how nurse is played anyways, he often waits longer than 3s anyways to get that perfect blink. As you should play her

  • Nurse will probably land in the mid tier but it's hard to pull a statistic from 10 nurse game last month from which 5 of them were mine.

  • @Peanits said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/829601#Comment_829601

    It is something we are considering, but I can't say for sure. It depends on how busy the data team is.

    Hopefully your data team, and everyone else, can take a look a Nurse again.

  • Only a matter of time before hag is "overperforming"

  • @Monlyth

    A rework is something that happend to Freddy, the nurse just got nerfed.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    Only a matter of time before hag is "overperforming"

    Touch Hag and the community will go haywire

  • @Nobsyde said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/829677#Comment_829677

    If you think it could help I could try to program in javascript a dynamic infograph, it would only need a dictionary to read the data from, something like:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/431/SEUQWFM5OGYO.png

    Is that actual stats for spirit?!?!?

  • lol no, it was just an example on how to format the data :P.

    The real data for Spirit (not considering the games with DCs), just leaked from BHVR headquarters, are:

    • rank 20-16: ≈ 3.128
    • rank 15-11: ≈ 3.422
    • rank 10-6: ≈ 3.672
    • rank 5-1: ≈ 3.899
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