A spirit nerf is not what people want

Not many people actually want to “nerf” the spirit. There’s a difference between making counterplay possible and nerfing. What a lot of people don’t understand is that a nerf isn’t the best route. There are things that need to be done to make her fun for both sides. Sure it might be fun to play as spirit. But playing against her is literally the worst time you can have in this game since the old legion. There is no counterplay, you are just guessing every 10 seconds or so and hoping you are right. They need to make it so the spirit is just as strong, but while also making counterplay possible. The nurse is still the strongest killer in the game, but I would rather play against 100 nurses in a row instead of 100 spirits. With the nurse you can see what is going on. There is counterplay. With spirit, there is no counterplay. People say “just use iron will”. You should not be forced to use one of like 50 perks to counter one of like 13 killers. They need to balance her. An example that they could do would be to make it so survivors have some general idea of where she is when phasing by literally any consistent means, but make it so that she can use her phase much more frequently. It’s not even a multi-player game when you play as the Survivors are just making random choices and hoping they’re right. They might as well be bots. It’s not good for the game when there is no counterplay. Just fix the spirit. There are so many ways she can track survivors and absolutely no ways survivors can figure out where she is when shifting.

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  • I hate to be one of those guys....but I do feel like a lot of survivors don’t know how to play against Spirit. If you have aura reading perks as survivor you can see this first hand. They either stand still at pallets or just run to obvious locations.

    Dont get me wrong there are times where you can only really run forwards and Spirit will easily get you but there are also many times where you can make it really hard for a Spirit to predict your movement.

    I feel there are other killers that need looking at more than Spirit

  • People want real, tangible counterplay to Spirit, not "run Iron Will every single game in case it's Spirit, and if she has Stridor you just die anyway."

    Going from a completely 1-sided beast that has cues the other player simply cannot match or really play around to something with counterplay would categorically be a nerf, it's only a negative for the killer.

  • What about making Spirit deaf to breathing and moans during phase? She could still see scratches and hear footsteps, but this would put her and the survivor on a bit better matchup while requiring more skill from the killer and, most importantly, ending this mandatory iron will/stridor BS.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1433170#Comment_1433170

    Was this seriously worth necroing?

    Also Spirit got nerfed. She has a vaulting animation now, she can no longer clip against survivors when phasing, and a few of her more powerful add-ons got toned down a notch so she can't do things like performing a 16 meter lunge.

    I knew the lunge was SUPER long but was it really 16 meters?

  • There is little to no counter to Spirit. The more experienced the Spirit is also, the less counter there is. If the Spirit is a regular experienced Spirit player, there is flat out no counter.


    How is that fun?


    "Use Iron will lolz" There's a million ways Spirit can track you. If she can't hear you moan (Stridor anyone? it kills Iron Will) she can hear your footsteps. If you stop running and just walk, she can just stop phasing around where she lost you and normally find you again.


    There is no counter to Spirit.


    Nobody wants to play versus something that has no counter.

  • if my time as the killer has taught me anything.

    Afk wraith is the happiest I can make 4 players

    People can not stand dying in dead by daylight. They want tunnling to go so they live longer . They want camping to go so they always have 3 lives they never want a killers power used and certainly not with any addons.


    Just injure them once and turn around its what they want.

  • Iron will and spine chill will get you away from any killer.

  • All she needs is to be unable to hear breathing/grunts of pain when phasing. Then it would be a fair mind game for both sides

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1433354#Comment_1433354

    Triggered?

    I asked if this was really worth necroing. It's a question. I also stated facts that happened. Just what exactly are you on about?

    Dude, stop quoting, you are being annoying.

  • @Rin_is_my_waifu said:

    Why don't we nerf all the killers? Or even better, why do we need killers in this game?

    As a killer main, Spirit needs changes. She's ridiculously easy to play and dominates games as.

  • @Rinthespooki said:

    Just make her footsteps louder and it wont be a guessing game.

    Is she phasing?

    1 - you hear footsteps while she stands still - she is.

    2 - you dont hear footsteps - she isn't.

    Thus it rewards a survivor if he/she pays attention for that.

    Boom 1 simple thing without having to nerf her kit or addons and its a indirect nerf to beads too.

    Footsteps are bugged the majority of the time. Even after they "fix" the bug....

  • the only thing spirit needs is an indication to survivors when she is starting to phasewalk

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1435950#Comment_1435950

    It's an open forum. I can do and say what I please within the rules.

    Unfortunately for you, replying to you, especially since you replied to me (and accused me of "being triggered") is definitely within those rules.

    If you don't want to be replied to, then one; you should not necro a nearly year-old thread. Two; you shouldn't accuse someone of being "triggered" when they were just stating facts. Three; You should probably not speak on an open forum in the first place because there will people who can and will reply to you and what you say on said open forum for all sorts of reasons.

    How can i mute notifications? Do you know?

  • The spirit has already been nerfed and is now fine as it is. Please stop crying 😅

  • @calem said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/815676#Comment_815676

    You think using 3 perks to counter her justifies her horribly designed power? Literally no one is going to run Premonition/Spine Chill/Iron Will in hopes they verse a Spirit. That is not counter-play, that is called getting lucky.

    You are replying to me from a comment of mine from November in 2019. You don’t even need perks to counter spirit.

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