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i get that freddy did destroy stealth but honestly, not many survivors really care to be stealthy. Why do you think freddy was considered the worst killer. Survivors knew that freddy could see them with the aura reading so they either waited for a skillcheck or even just prepared for his arrival and then he gets loops to infinity. Stealth is so underwhelming and survivors usually tried to get freddy's attention as he was thought to be so weak and survivors pretty much took him as a joke.
Now personally i don't think he was that bad and he was never the worst killer imo. I never took freddy as a joke as he could make games go on forever and had some unique mindgames with the transition that most freddy's never utilized. I do think he was incredibly underrated and really just needed buffs and not a rework.
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i really don't want this to turn into an argument and i want to keep it civil but here is my explanation behind clown doctor and legion
Clown IMO is just not good no mobility, no map pressure, no gen stall, just medicore chase potential. And pretty much the counter to clown is just throw down the pallet early. What can he do other than break the pallet? Nothing. Clown can shut down some loops but high rank survivors just wont go to those loops since they know what they can and cant do against clown. This is why i have placed him as the 3rd worst killer
Doctor is obviously not the best but his shock therapy is a lot harder to counter if the doctor can time it right. and i know the argument "base range is too small" sure it isnt great but it doesn't completely destroy his anti loop potential. He also has great tracking which is always nice and has a built in slowdown. (although it's slight) I will admit he also has no mobility, high ranking survivors can cuck him by taking right routes. and can abuse the hell out of his small range of shock therapy. However he can be get down faster than normal due to his anti loop and can make the game take a significant longer amount of time to finish.
Legion is again, not the best but his feral frenzy basically gets half of the chase over with. Being able to just get a free hit like that is pretty decent. The info he gets is very good as he now knows which gens survivors are on and can go harass them and get them off gens with his increased mobility. His slowdown is very similar to doctors in which it is slight. But legion can pretty much make everyone have to mend which waste time. This means while he is harassing lets say two guys off the gen, one guy is mending and the other is doing a gen. two of them are mending, the 3rd guy is getting chased, and the 4th one is doing a gen. Maybe i did overrate them a little bit and should put him below doc but he can do a lot with the info he is given. He pressures them to get off gens and forcing to mend and getting the 1st half of the chase over with is pretty decent. He is however an m1 killer if the survivors are injured
@PigNRun said:
I am salty you put Clown so low. Doc suffers a lot more than him. I would say he is on par with Trapper, if not better.
Legion isnt underrated, they are overrated by you. They get so much information, sure. But what do they do with it? The same as any other low tier killer, if not worse, because their power is useless for anything else.
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@Star99er said:
I’d put Legion at the bottom of C tier and put The Plague right in between him and The Trapper.
maybe he is up a bit too high but i feel like he is better than trapper due to his above average mobility, his more reliable slowdown, a easier chase when playing him since first hit is always free, and he gets info on where survivors currently are. the trapper has to waste time setting traps up and even then its basically rng if the survivors step in there or not where legions power is more reliable imo
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@Chaotic_Riddle said:
Oh thank God, I’m finally not a D-Tier Killer.
yea legion is underrated the amount of information he gives you about survivors is great
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@Mc_Harty said:
Outta curiosity, where would you put demo?
im not too sure he seems to be a solid A tier killer but i feel like its too early to come to a conclusion
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@Yamaoka said:
This list makes me wanna multidown people. Why can only few people see my true potential?
you are hillbilly's ######### cousin
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@JoannaVO said:
Lately I really wonder if Hillbilly is stronger than Huntress, after the lullaby buff. A huntress can hit her hatchets over some loops, but even a good billy isn't going to easily get a chainsaw off. I find looping Billy much easier than Huntress (and from what I see in my games my teammates seem to do to), so you can waste much more of his precious time.
huntress doesen't have map pressure like billy does and she easily has the worst tracking in the game and billy still has good chase and insane map pressure while huntress has insane chase but no map pressure
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i personally think he really dosen't have an ability due to how little you actually use your chainsaw to down someone