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@vladspellbinder said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2975605#Comment_2975605
I've had Killers who, when asked why they face camped at five gens tell me "Because I face camp people" or along those lines. I've run into people that have "Face Camp" in their names in some manner and wow, they only ever face camped the whole game.
These people didn't care about points.
They didn't care about gens or the exit gates.
They don't care about a 4k or even a 2k. They just want to face camp someone to be a [male genitalia].
These sorts of people very much won't stop face camping unless they literally can not face camp, no amount of incentives will make them stop.
So, no, I don't agree that the right way to go about it is not punishing people for doing it, because the only way of stopping some people from doing it will be making it so they can't do it in the first place.
For the record I am a Killer main, one of the main reasons I'm a Killer main is my that VERY FIRST GAME I played was as Survivor and I found first, easily downed and then face camped. My second game someone else was found first, downed and face camped and when they died I was found, downed and face camped so I said "Fine! I'll be the Killer and REFUSE to face camp anyone so it doesn't happen!"
I want to see face camping outright removed from the game. No incentives not to do it, nothing sort of not being able to face camp anyone will be enough for me. But it has to be done in such a way that it doesn't hurt proxy camping with isn't so easy to do and would require testing to get right.
I think this speaks a truth not many people realize anymore, is that the first dozen or so survivor matches are brutal with nearly every match having both sides of the game playing poorly. Of course the survivors don't know what they're doing yet since it's nobody's fault not to know much about a game going into it, and some killers truly are babies but don't face camp and that's why I respect them so much when they don't dc. However the shear amount that do facecamp at that ranking of the game is what looms over people who first play the game. It hits them in every match and has them think that it's always going to happen and then they see the amount of grind it takes to prevent it with perks and just give up.
@Khar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2977224#Comment_2977224
I still feel like the issue should be incentivizing killers to not camp, not punish them when they do. They're already punished for doing their job: Dead hard, Unbreakable, Decisive Strike (You can literally down someone, hook them, down someone else, hook them, meet the first person again and still get DS'd despite it not being tunneling at that point.) Some killers facecamp because they want to, but others do it because they're left without much option otherwise. It might suck for survivor, but the game shouldn't be made even less fun for killers, either.
Also I think a lot of people who commented didn't read my wall of text which is fair, but I went into detail on ways that if it's set up that way it couldn't be abused by either side lol
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@Ink_Eyes said:
Wall of text! short answer is: there will never be a solution because devs don't see camping as a problem, they see it as a legitimate strategy that's completely fair so it will probably never be changed (people have posted ''possible solutions'' including ''pause the hook timer if the killer is nearby'' multiple times since the game launched and it's still here and will probably stay forever)
I did say it's a legitimate strategy, and that to fix the unlegitimate usages of it, a strict ruling to it could be in place. I know it's not new information but I still feel like the way I suggested it would work and allow for camping when it's necessary and completely prevent it when it's undercutting gameplay.