I_Am_Goblin_Boy

@mentalpopcorn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1446512#Comment_1446512
It's easy to think there's no counterplay if you've never heard of the counterplay. It's the same with noob survivors not knowing you can crouch over hag traps.

I did some testing in custom matches, and there is literally no visible difference between a phasing spirit and one who's just standing still. Again, her so called "counterplay" is literally just guessing and hoping you're right

in All killers ranked on how fun they are to VS Comment by I_Am_Goblin_Boy July 23, 2020

@xEa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1439510#Comment_1439510
There are indeed some weird characters in DbD, thats a good point of you. Still, a Cowboy does not fit in any horror game in my opinion. I dont know why, its just out of place for me, like for example a shark, a car or a doll would be. I guess it is a personal thing, but to be fair, i dont know any people who disagree with he beeing very out of place (at least the people i play with and those i know in RL who also play the game)
I am fine if people like him, i wish i could to, but i dont. I also dont think he is a weak version of the Huntress, actually he can do a lot of stuff far better. There is only one thing she is much better then deathslinger and thats that she can fight multible targets at the same time. Everything else is a plus for deathslinger. He has no humming like she and only a really small terror radius (the terror radius of deathslinger makes it even harder to predict how close he acutally is compared to the normal terror radius) which helps him get way closer to the target then Huntress can, he can quickscope, he can reel in the survivor , NOED works with his power, he does not have to break chase and reload at a locker etc
Yes, thats what his problem is. The quickscope mechanic is what makes him so unfun to go against. Its like Scott Jund sayed: "You are not dodging Deathslinger, he is just missing". A perfect Deathslinger will hit every single shot without any chance for the survivors. Its also extremly frustrating that he gains ground with his fake attempt of shooting. Here is a good example of what i mean
https://youtu.be/40gHL0W48HA?t=550
So to answer your question: If they remove quickscope or at least give some kind of notification that at least gives the survivor a fair chance to dodge, i would be the last person to complain about it. I would even give him something in return to compensate for that.
Kind regards

Yeah, I get that. I think it would also help if NOED didn't work on his power

in All killers ranked on how fun they are to VS Comment by I_Am_Goblin_Boy July 15, 2020

@mentalpopcorn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1439567#Comment_1439567
There are multiple ways to tell when spirit is phasing. Firstly there's an audio queue when you're in her terror radius, but also her hair stands up. So if she's standing still and her hair isn't standing up then she's not phasing
I also mentioned the perk that destroys her is spine chill. That alone let's you know when she's coming at you.

I've never seen or heard either of those things. And yes, spine chill may counter her, but you can't expect people to bring that perk

in All killers ranked on how fun they are to VS Comment by I_Am_Goblin_Boy July 15, 2020

@mentalpopcorn said:
If you think spirit has no counterplay you must not be very good. There's 2 very easy ways to counter her.
1. When on gens use your ears more than your eyes
2. When in a chase if she activates her ability stop running and change direction. She can only find you by scratch marks and sounds you make.
I find GF the shape and pyramid head a lot more unfun to play against than the spirit. With GF he can come out of nowhere and just instadown you with his easy exposed status. With the shape it's not as bad but he can do basically the same thing. People who get the exposed status that easily ruin the game imo. And pyramid head just has very little counterplay at all. You can try and dodge his ranged attack but all that will do is decrease the distance between you and him for a regular attack. Then what? DS? you probably can't. He's way too good at downing survivors and once you are downed there's absolutely no counterplay to him.

Im gonna guess that the perk you're referring to that can "absolutely destroy her" is iron will. I disagree with that. First of all, you can't expect every survivor to just run iron will on the off chance it's a spirit. Same thing with spine chill. Second, stridor counters it as well

When you're on gens, you can keep an ear out for a phasing spirit, but prayer beads makes it tough, plus you can't hear the phasing if you're inside her terror radius.

How are you gonna know if she starts phasing in the middle of a chase? For all you know, she could just be standing there and faking the phase, waiting for you to start trying to sneak away.

The "counterplay" to spirit is pure guessing and dumb luck. You have to hope that you're making the right decision and you have to hope that you know what she's trying to do. There's no actual skill involved. Spirit would so much more fun and balanced if there was some way (other than the phasing sound you only hear outside of her terror radius) to know when she's actually using her ability

I do however completely agree with you about the killer's skill. If i go against a nurse main with a couple thousand hours in the game, then im gonna get destroyed and have no fun whatsoever, even tho nurse is typically my fave to VS

in All killers ranked on how fun they are to VS Comment by I_Am_Goblin_Boy July 13, 2020

@WalkedMoss92 said:
I completely agree with this fun-tier list. I would defiantly say that the Nurse and Desthslinger are the most fun killers to go against for me.

I'm glad you agree. Apparently there's a lot of divisiveness when it comes to deathslinger and a lot of people hate him

in All killers ranked on how fun they are to VS Comment by I_Am_Goblin_Boy July 13, 2020

@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1436470#Comment_1436470
She forces you to adapt and learn how to counter her in a different way, unlike 90% of the killer roster which you counter in the exact same way which is just looping the pallet. Killers that ask something different of the survivors are good design and enjoyable because it changes up my game play.
We have an issue of way too many people forming opinions from watching streamers/youtubers instead of actually experiencing it themselves. Also, too many people who refuse to adapt and learn. They find it easier to come to the forums and complain that the exact same thing they always do doesn't work on every killer.
She also requires extra skill from the killer. If you know basic map tiles and looping mechanics you can already play 90% of the killer roster on literally just that at a decent level. On top of those things, the Spirit also has to be able to play blind and using just her ears. She asks more from the player than most killers to do well in other words.
Spirit is one of the best designed and balanced killers imo. If I go down it's because I was outplayed.

There are plenty of killers that have to be countered in different ways that are still plenty of fun to VS. Nurse for example, can cancel literally any loop by just blinking through the wall/pallet. Doctor can prevent pallet stuns and vaults, freddy can do the same, clown can, in theory stop loops but he still kinda sucks, etc.

The difference between spirit and all of these killers is that there's no real counterplay. No warning. You can see doctor's charging up their shock and know to prevault or predrop, you can see clown's clouds and know to run around them, you can see freddy's traps and avoid them. Spirit does no such thing unless you're outside of her terror radius, but she rarely phases outside of a chase. And in that situation there's no audio or visual indication that she's started phasing.

Trying to counter spirit is literally just a guessing game. That's it. There's no skill involved. You have to guess if she's actually phasing or just faking it, if she is actually phasing, what way is she moving, where is she? It complete guessing and that takes the fun out of it

VSing most other killers is more fun because, if you manage to win chases and win against them, then you know that it was because you have more skill, and if you lose to them, then you know they have more skill. When it comes to spirit, if you win, its just pure luck, if you lose, its also just luck

in All killers ranked on how fun they are to VS Comment by I_Am_Goblin_Boy July 13, 2020

@xEa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1436213#Comment_1436213
Because he is the most discusting being in Dead by Daylight since Legion 1.0? Versus Spirit you have at least a chance to counter her power, but versus Quickscope Boy there is nothing else you can do but hope he is playing bad. 0 reactive gameplay. And on top of it, his weakness is mobility, which means you have a LOT of time sitting on gens. Thats a lot of fun too. Plus he is a stinky Cowboy. I mean, a cowboy. In Dead by Daylight. #########? :D
If you would have asked me a year ago what the possible dumbest killer devs might come up with could be, i might have said A Cowboy that runs around with a harpoon which can be used to reel in survivors.
The better question is not why i dislike the deathslinger, but why anybody dont ;) What do you like about him?

I get that deathslinger is kind of a weird design, but I actually kinda like it. We have a lot of weird killers in DBD, including an angry samurai, a group of rambunctious teenagers, and an ancient priestess with bolemia. A cowboy isn't that far out IMO.

I'm seeing a lot of divisiveness about deathslinger in the comments. Apparently a lot of people actually really hate him, which I get, but for some reason i actually really enjoy going against him. IMO he's basically a slightly weaker version of huntress and dodging his shots are just fun to me.

Do you think he'd be more fun to VS if, like Huntress, he had to take a second to actually throw the hatchet. Like huntress grunts and takes a second to reel it then throw it. What if deathslinger had some kind of notification and it took him a little longer to ADS?

in All killers ranked on how fun they are to VS Comment by I_Am_Goblin_Boy July 13, 2020

@Blueberry said:
Ironically I'd put Spirit where Nurse is.

Do you need a therapist?