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@CashelP14 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1389467#Comment_1389467
Your very selective on what you read from these lol first off I pretty much answered everyone's questions from the comments you've shown. It's not easy replying to this many people.
Every single one relating to "perks I've had in mind" pretty much relates to Bubba's placement. Funny part is they seem to know the exact 2 perks that I mentioned to you earlier, and I didn't even need to tell them.
Everyone who mentioned the High/Low parts of the tier list I explained why I did this. They didn't complain about it like you, they just asked why I did it that way. Some didn't even care about the High/Low tiers and just joined in.
The one relating to basic add-ons had to do with Spirit, Nurse and Freddy. I stated I don't think the common add-ons make much of a difference and that stays true. I think with common add-ons or not Spirit and Nurse are both better than Freddy. Even basic Billy in my opinion is better than Freddy. With common add-ons or without add-ons I also still see Myers as better than Ghostface.
All you came into this discussion to do was complain. If this tier list isn't too your liking you can watch many other tier lists online, who do it differently to me. Sadly for you this is the last bit of attention I'll be giving you. Send your reply to this since I know you'll be BEGGING for the last word but I'm leaving our mini chapter here. Have fun and stay safe out in the fog 🙂
Selective? Homie what. I asked you to just explain what you mean. Then when I did you spoke for everyone and said they all get it and I don't.
The fact that THE VERY FIRST reply to your thread was questioning loadout is really all you should have needed to be like, you know, I think this is a valid point.
I'm really trying to get into a discussion here but you left too much open ended. I have an incredibly reasonable request; please finish what you started instead of this petty bickering. You should never presume you know everything it what everyone are thinking. Super unhealthy for mental health my guy.
Oh man.. Selective though!? Selective? Dude I might as well have linked you the entire first page, there are so many. I even said that for all of our sake I just stopped on page one cuz I think when it's practically every comment then the point has been made.
Where do you frigging get this from. Take the criticism dude. Are you gonna provide the details, or flex on some pride, speak for everyone, and continue to believe they are understanding you.
Cuz like, you refuse to read the signs I suppose it's actually necessary to explain; Of the comments that I didn't link, that's cuz it was just irrelevant posts that didn't even take your post to mind.. like "nah I think this killer is better".
You opened this floor, do you want to discuss this properly with some purpose, or bicker with me. Can we just like move on from getting off on the wrong foot. Please just finish what you started, you wanted to base it on perks or maybe add-ons, say which ones. It's a perfectly reasonable request.
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@CashelP14 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1388998#Comment_1388998
If you wanted to f*ck me you should've bought me dinner first 😂 it's funny how everyone else understood what I meant with this except you. But I'll explain everything quite easily for you now 😉
Well I had to specify the killer uses perks since that makes a massive difference in these lists. I had to say best perks so someone wouldn't say "How isn't lightborn, monstrous shrine, zenshi tactics and mind breaker Clown not F tier". Also I didn't specify the exact best perks because no one exactly agrees on a killers best build.
For me Bubba uses PWYF (Play With Your Food), Nemesis, BBQ (Barbecue and Chili) and PGTW (Pop Goes The Weasel). However I've seen recently that tru3talent thinks Ruin and Surveillance is better than PGTW and BBQ. The thing is everyone understands when they are ranking Bubba on his ability (except you maybe) that he needs PWYF and Nemesis. So I hope that explains why I didn't want to specify exact perks.
I always called them grey add-ons, once again everyone understood what I meant except you. I said grey add-ons because most killers will have plenty of them and they won't break the balance of the killer. Back to Bubba for the example. I use Spark Plug and Vegetable Oil when I play Bubba, these help him slightly but not enough to bump him up a tier.
How many people who have done tier lists explains the exact builds and add-ons they are using? Very very few. I did for mine to help people understand the way I was thinking.
Well I said High and Low tier and if you don't like it then go watch someone else's tier list online (their is quite a few). This is my tier list so I wanted to do it my way. If I just had S, A, B, C then each tier would be overloaded. If I decided to spread the tiers out more to include D and F tiers then killers like Trapper and Clown wouldn't be in their correct tier. High and Low tiers help to show how diverse each tier can be.
So I'm happy you spent, some, time out of your day to read this. Hope you stay safe and enjoy the rest of it 😉
Everyone else understood but me? Well what about the first guy who replied? Also, all these other comments... thats just from page 1...
You don't need to make things easy for me. You need to make clear to everyone what is going on in your head. We can't read your mind. It's just called due diligence man. I'm totally down with you wanting to share your thoughts, but damnit man you gotta finish transmitting them. Then we can have a proper discussion. Peace my dude.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1386042/#Comment_1386042
Someone other than me, most noteworthy, The very first reply in your thread, questioning what perks you had in mind.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1386047/#Comment_1386047
Someone other than me disagrees with the chosen tier identifiers.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1386084/#Comment_1386084
Someone other than me curious about why Freddy was placed where he was. Something more data would likely have aided. Instead of wasting a ping back and forth asking then answering, poster could have just provided criticism initially.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1386295/#Comment_1386295 Poster expresses out of alignment with your TOP PICKS due to consideration of basic addons. We have no idea if you play any of the killers they called out with addons or not.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1386380/#Comment_1386380 Poster could have had a more meaningful bit of input, seemed like they wanted to show more enthusiasm i gather. But there wasnt a loadout specified to begin with, and so too they left an equally pointless comment.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1386386/#Comment_1386386 This guy is BEGGING to talk about loadouts man.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1386412/#Comment_1386412 Adds input but is pretty hollow... they could haved used the loadout you had in mind to spark up a proper reply.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1386458/#Comment_1386458 Another person that seems itching to say something! But had no inspiration. Hollow comment.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1386468/#Comment_1386468 another one
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1386941/#Comment_1386941 This guy is really asking for some loadout detail for trapper, he didnt say the words but this is def him asking you.
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@CashelP14 said:
First things first. This is my opinion as someone who is Devotion 9 now. Been playing since 2017 and I've been red rank on both sides for pretty much the whole time.
I'm ranking these off a few things.
- The killer is using their best perks.
- The killer is using grey/no add-ons. This doesn't include extremely strong greys like huntress's exhaustion add-on.
- The survivor team is good. Not OP swf levels of good but they aren't babies.
- The killer is decent. Some of these killers need at least some skill in order to beat a good team.
The reason for these rules is just so you understand my mindset. Against babies (hello boosted red ranks) all these killers are S rank. I don't want really strong add-ons since they make killers like Leatherface, Pig, Doctor and Ghostface go much higher than they maybe should. This is also why I'm including perks since killers like Leatherface, Myers, Trapper and many more are dependent on perks. Having no perks would also make Pig go up a few ranks due to her built in slowdown ability.
Now for the actual tier list.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/6A5DWBC3OMWG/my-image.png
If you have any questions as to why certain killers are in certain spots then feel free to ask. This discussion is already too long so I don't want to explain why each killer is their spot.
EDIT: These are in order. The left is best and right is worst of each tier.
* -"The killer is using their best perks."-
.... You need to define exact perks. "Best" is subjective. Please list the exact perks that you have in mind if you want to be so strict about your own criteria. You might as well have not written this line, cuz without the perks it's the same to anyone that isn't you
* -"The killer is using grey/no add-ons. This doesn't include extremely strong greys like huntress's exhaustion add-on."*
.... Which is it, none, or brown? (Get your monitor colors checked btw). This is a big one. Add ons shift the killer powers immensely. Something you clearly tried to acknowledge but you left this rule too open ended. And AGAIN, didn't list a single add-on tied to a single killer. Again, you might as well have not bothered telling us this, cuz you didn't list who is using what. Please list the add-ons that you have in mind and what killer they pertain to. Without that, it's not useful to anyone who isn't you.
*-"The reason for these rules is just so you understand my mindset"*
... It's at this exact line that I begin thinking you're just f*&king with us. Are you joking? No really.. right after you waste time explaining things you didn't explain.
And dude, low a, high a, low b.... ######### man. What is that. No one says that. You can use a letter once, you are permitted to use a double like SS but dude.... You spent, some, time out of your day to present your thoughts. But you didn't consider the format of information that you threw out into space for others to pick up...
Throw it all out. Start over.
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@JiggleWiggle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/822518#Comment_822518
The plague talks ? and i love it.
I gotta say, I'm not a fan there are lines at all. No one talks in DbD, or no one did. I would have preferred it stay that way. It is an odd direction.
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I gotta say, I'm not a fan there are lines at all. No one talks in DbD, or no one did. I would have preferred it stay that way. It is an odd direction.
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@aazimuth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/822148#Comment_822148
Yikes, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. When you state "Be available to play your matches on November 8th between 8AM EST and November 8th 16PM EST (XXXPM UTC to XXXAM UTC)...." that means do your matches in that time frame, not specifically right when it starts.
Also it's really cringe when you say you wanna "de-toxify" the community when you make that big of a post because someone is disappointed that the experiment closed hours earlier than it should have.
You're ignoring the OP i think. I know what it means, you know what it means, the OP does not. He complained about how he couldnt make in all his matches cuz of work. So he missed, and now you've missed what it means somewhere along the line. Once again I'll bring up: he was not available during all the time that was asked, so he missed out and has no right to complain and waste all of our time like this. He needs to know this is poor behavior.
I do not mind that anything appears really cringe to you, this is your call to make. I can't control that. "That big" of a post? Why is that important ...? A message is however large it needs to be.... Have you seen a book? They might scare you! Some of them are *entire stories long!!!* like, they had to use multiple pages!
If this was just about "someone disappointed that it closed early" then why is there even a post to begin with. You are not acknowledging any of the relevant information here. meet me halfway at least man.
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@Gravnos said:
We've received an email and the servers are offline. Those of us that had to work and couldn't get our games in on time just wasted time doing this. I got in just a few games and had survivors dc in half of them. This is incredibly disappointing, I rearranged a lot of things because I was excited to participate here, but it doesn't matter.
Bit of a rant, but half my post are on trying to remove toxic behavior and be more altruistic. Sucks that the experiment around that very thing was abruptly shut down without warning and kicking those of us out that didn't do it in the early part of the experiment.
Are you... are you serious? Your instructions were very clear. Were you available ALL of the time that was clearly documented ahead of time??
No. No you weren't. You shouldn't have signed up in the first place if you couldn't even make the VERY FIRST obligation.
"Directives
- Be available to play your matches on November 8th between 8AM EST and November 8th 16PM EST (XXXPM UTC to XXXAM UTC)...."
You deserve absolutely no right to complain, at all. Even if you were available per the time that was asked, and even if you were still upset it was cut early, it is not your experiment, it isn't your call to make.
This time was voluntary, and for the purposes of collecting data. Anything beyond that is you taking this way too personally. Grow up.
I'm the biggest advocate of de-toxifying this community so seeing posts like yours I am sorry but you have to know I'm calling you out as inappropriate, arrogant, and uncalled for.
If you're trying to help you've missed the mark entirely....failing to see your post reeks of this sense of entitlement. You signed up to volunteer your time. NO ONE TOOK IT FROM YOU AND NO ONE OWES YOU ANYTHING. The directives were clearly written and you signed up. Those are the facts. It's done, move on. Delete this thread PLEASE