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  • Kinda funny reading all those 'you can count good nurse with ooo,ooo' craps lol.

    if you can juke or runaway from nurse, then she just simply isnt a good nurse

    if the nurse is really is a good player there's no way you can get away from her

    Yes, Legion also does that, Gets anyone he wants but he takes much longer time and effort. without purple add-ons he has to spend much more time than nurse. when a real good nurse just gets any killed survivors in like couple blinks.

    You think you can juke, get away from nurse? then that means you still didnt understand how this game works.

    Legion, without purple add-on is one of the shittest killer in the game and nurse?

    Nurse is like 0 tier no matter what add on she has. No other killers can be compared to her

    in Hate Legion? Let's compare them to Nurse. Comment by Eul
  • Caretaker said:

    @Eul said:
    PigNRun said:


    Eul said:


    Spirit is not op. I ran one around earlier and never went down. I ran No Mither too. Survivors refuse to adapt/figure out how they play. See some using Prayer Beads and say she's unstoppable. She's easily avoided, and another 110 killer. Don't get baited by mind games and you're good.

    Spirit is op now lol, beat her in mind game? When spirit's power makes her almost twice faster than survivors, even faster than the sprint perk.
    If you know how to play spirit properly, you can literally beat any skilled survivors in mind game since her movement speed is ridiculously fast and makes her invisible. Yea spirit also cant see survivors but it really doesn't matter cus spirit will have much more information in invisible mind game(Sounds, movement of grass, blood and footsteps.)

    It seems like killers in NA server just doesn't know how to play her tbh, cus around EA(east asai), Spirit and nurse is the most common killer you will be matched and just breaking the game near 1 ranks

    But yes, you have to get used to her power and get skilled. She requires much more skill and experience than nurse or any other killers.
    Tho that doesn't make her not op haha

    For someone who deals with Spirit so much over East Asai, its interesting how you still haven't learned to counter her. Especially considering how her counter was literally stated by yourself in this post.

    Yea that's what they say, Counter spirit! Beat her in Mind game! Counter nurse with stealth game play style....😂😂😂 

    It's really not hard to do.

    Not hard to counter nurse and spirit? Oh well
    I will be keep going my way dude
    It kinda seems like a waste of time talking to someone saying Nurse and spirit are easy to counter. Just total waste of time
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  • Caretaker said:

    @Eul said:
    Spirit is not op. I ran one around earlier and never went down. I ran No Mither too. Survivors refuse to adapt/figure out how they play. See some using Prayer Beads and say she's unstoppable. She's easily avoided, and another 110 killer. Don't get baited by mind games and you're good.

    Spirit is op now lol, beat her in mind game? When spirit's power makes her almost twice faster than survivors, even faster than the sprint perk.
    If you know how to play spirit properly, you can literally beat any skilled survivors in mind game since her movement speed is ridiculously fast and makes her invisible. Yea spirit also cant see survivors but it really doesn't matter cus spirit will have much more information in invisible mind game(Sounds, movement of grass, blood and footsteps.)

    It seems like killers in NA server just doesn't know how to play her tbh, cus around EA(east asai), Spirit and nurse is the most common killer you will be matched and just breaking the game near 1 ranks

    But yes, you have to get used to her power and get skilled. She requires much more skill and experience than nurse or any other killers.
    Tho that doesn't make her not op haha

    Or here's a thought. You're bad and don't want to admit it so you cry she's op. I have multiple perfect games, quad iris, and play her addonless at rank 1. I know how to play her, it's why I know how to beat her. Shocking right? It's almost like experience with a killer shows you how to deal with them. My god.

    Also, you can't see blood when phasing, so you're wrong there. Not without an UR, and it's bad. Not every map has grass to use to see, and you can use it against her. Also, she can't run faster than Sprint Burst, she's 126% speed while phasing without MS addons, so again. Maybe you should actually play her then you'd know what you're talking about and be able to counter her.

    Said it once, say it again. Make Cold Dirt and Frank's Mix Tape base, and rework those addons. He'd be a solid mid-tier killer, and fun to play. Wanna counter him? Bait pallets/stun them. Survivors camp them enough anyway, about time you get punished for it.

    What kind of idiot plays the killer without add ons?? 😂 you are being ridiculous. Plus now i see the reason why spirit and nurse isn't getting any nerfs here. Cus ppl just don't know how to play it and think they are just a 'Good' killers when they are dominating the game in a way they shouldn't be.
    Good Job NA
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  • PigNRun said:
    Eul said:

    Spirit is not op. I ran one around earlier and never went down. I ran No Mither too. Survivors refuse to adapt/figure out how they play. See some using Prayer Beads and say she's unstoppable. She's easily avoided, and another 110 killer. Don't get baited by mind games and you're good.

    Spirit is op now lol, beat her in mind game? When spirit's power makes her almost twice faster than survivors, even faster than the sprint perk.
    If you know how to play spirit properly, you can literally beat any skilled survivors in mind game since her movement speed is ridiculously fast and makes her invisible. Yea spirit also cant see survivors but it really doesn't matter cus spirit will have much more information in invisible mind game(Sounds, movement of grass, blood and footsteps.)

    It seems like killers in NA server just doesn't know how to play her tbh, cus around EA(east asai), Spirit and nurse is the most common killer you will be matched and just breaking the game near 1 ranks

    But yes, you have to get used to her power and get skilled. She requires much more skill and experience than nurse or any other killers.
    Tho that doesn't make her not op haha
    For someone who deals with Spirit so much over East Asai, its interesting how you still haven't learned to counter her. Especially considering how her counter was literally stated by yourself in this post.
    Yea that's what they say, Counter spirit! Beat her in Mind game! Counter nurse with stealth game play style....😂😂😂 
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  • Spirit is not op. I ran one around earlier and never went down. I ran No Mither too. Survivors refuse to adapt/figure out how they play. See some using Prayer Beads and say she's unstoppable. She's easily avoided, and another 110 killer. Don't get baited by mind games and you're good.

    Spirit is op now lol, beat her in mind game? When spirit's power makes her almost twice faster than survivors, even faster than the sprint perk.
    If you know how to play spirit properly, you can literally beat any skilled survivors in mind game since her movement speed is ridiculously fast and makes her invisible. Yea spirit also cant see survivors but it really doesn't matter cus spirit will have much more information in invisible mind game(Sounds, movement of grass, blood and footsteps.)

    It seems like killers in NA server just doesn't know how to play her tbh, cus around EA(east asai), Spirit and nurse is the most common killer you will be matched and just breaking the game near 1 ranks

    But yes, you have to get used to her power and get skilled. She requires much more skill and experience than nurse or any other killers.
    Tho that doesn't make her not op haha
    in Legion stun needs to be removed Comment by Eul
  • They didn't fix the spirit, they broke her by making her op. Ppl were crying that spirit was too weak and now she became one of the most powerful killers in the game right below the nurse.  For right now legion seems a bit weak, that is something most of killers are agreeing but i think we should still wait and see how ppl get used to the legion and how it turns out.  Since legion just came out yesterday, we can't really say he needs a buff or nah.

    Plus legion's power got too much potential since it's vaulting pallets and windows just like survivors, if we touch him/her wrong, legion is going to wreck this game and become Nurse V2 lol.

    Let's just give legion more time and see where it goes
    in Legion stun needs to be removed Comment by Eul
  • powerbats said:

    @Eul said:

    If you do not agree on swf is broken then you must be really bad at this game. Every high ranked players agrees on this because they know how this game works and the mechanisms and stuff. Not like you.

    Rank 1 both sides and I've got no problems facing swf or killers while soloing. The only one that's obviously bad here is you if you can't beat most swf teams. So since I can hit rank 1 and handle people and give good advice on how to play that means I know how the game mechanisms work just fine. you on the other hand seem to only be able to blame everything but your own lack of skill when it comes to anything that goes wrong.

    I gave you tons of reasons and facts why swf is broken up there and yet you didn't come up with any logical evidence and proof that why swf is not broken.
    Cus you can't.  It is broken and it is unfair. Done.

    Translation I didn't like your counter arguments that negated my made up stuff so now I'm going to claim victory.

    I wonder if you even play this game tbh.
    Cus you are the only one person that I've met thinking swf isnt broken and unfair. I'm not even joking rn. Lol.

    Oh and this is given I've been taking a break from playing lately, so obviously I do play the game. I'm also not the only person on here that doesn't have an issue with swf.

    Like i said, there are reasons why this game was designed without any communication tools for the survivors. Devs knew it and that's why they designed the game and rules like this. And discord breaks that very important rules that survivors shouldn't be communicating and sharing infos during the play.

    WRONG again, the devs didn't have time to add swf since it was either that or KYF so they chose kyf. They also didn't have time to add voice and didn't think it'd have the impact it has. Oh and obviously Console doesn't need Discord since they have their very own built in voice communication.

    There was never any rule that survivors shouldn't be sharing information and the fact you'd throw out such a blatant lie just proves you've got no argument.

    But come on, I'm guessing you are only playing as survs in low rank and I'm probably guessing right but dude...

    Oh you just had to make yourself look foolish there didn't you, see the above killer rank 1 screenshot. I'm not the one dodging every lobby just because I might get challenged here. But just to prove how foolish you look yet again for guessing.

    Seriously? Sharing 'where the killer is, where the hax totem is, how much pallets left in loop area, what kind of perks killer uses, if he is camping or not, the progress on each gen' is not broken? Woah... you must be really bad this game😂

    The only one bad here is you and those are some pretty weak insult type arguments. I play mostly solo and even when I play swf I pay attention to what I see. I know when the killer is breaking a pallet since i'm usually in their vicinity watching them.

    Premonition so I know if it's a wraith/Pig/Insidious cam oh and the terror radius but also I look around visually in case they're soft camping.Oh gee I can't look at a gen and see the pistons moving and tell how much progress it has left on it.

    Yea maybe you are right about leaving ppl after removing the swf but that's something need to be fixed fast and even gone. Cus it is breaking the very essential game play mechanism.

    Yes I'm right about people leaving and it's finally starting to sink in, but here you go again it has to be removed because you don't like it. It's also not breaking the essential mechanism and you know why because they and always intended it to be there.

    Nowe to finally put the proverbial logic nail in your argument here with some simple facts you conveniently ignore.

    Those players on console can and do invite people to party chat or voice chat even when they're currently solo lobbied up because that's a core functionality of the consoles. Then you have lobby chat you know where survivors can coordinate perks, offerings, addons etc.

    Oh and they can also post Discord links to you know use voice chat all while being solo lobbied up and still have voice in use. It's almost as if removing SWF would have absolutely no bearing on your lack of skill in countering people using voice.

    In fact it'd be even worse because with most SWF they're rather easy to beat because they're also overly altruistic. But a bunch of solo players who're not friends you could camp one and still get 3 out the gate because they won't rescue.

    And please stop with that business and company Bs dude. This is balance discussion thread not the Game company simulator. 

    Translation you know I'm right yet again and have to deflect once again, if you don't know how a business actually runs. You shouldn't be trying to play game company simulator expert by saying they should remove the biggest part of their customer base.

    You got nailed to the wall of logic and are now trying to wiggle free with illogical nonsense and it's not working.

    Doesn't really matter what you feel about swf cus majority of players think Swf is broken lol. Just look at this post rn,  you are the only one person so far who thinks there's no problem in Swf? Or are you just gonna say they are all my fake accounts? Yea that'd be easy for you. 

    You just don't want to face the fact that swf is ridiculous, oh devs didnt put voice chats and chats in game cus they didn't have time and thought it really wouldn't have impact on this game? Well you are on 1 rank and still dont know anything about the balance. And about the consoles having party system on their ps4 or xbox itself? Devs just couldnt come up with brilliant idea to block it so just released the game without thinking about the balance just to get more players and money just like they have been doing for last 2 years.

    If both sides of players are at the same skill level the only way for killers to win against 4 man squad is choose nurse(which is obviously the most imbalanced killer in the entire game rn), pick Spirit with red add ons and just go for Doctor with certain setting and just patrol gens with overcharge perk, making game go over 30 mins make them to rage quit. And other killers like wraith, trapper, pig, cannibal and others won't even have a chance to hook even 2 of them. Not cus they are a bad killer cus this game is already survivor friendly game without swf and discord and all the voice chat system makes it much more worse.

    If you still got no clue why it is broken then i guess your ppl on your server are just bad in general.
    Sure you can just go thinking that swf is totally ok and ppl are just not good enough to go against swf
    While majority of the community and the new players are complaining and leaving the game via Swf and swf users abusing ######### matchmaking system that makes new killers play against red ranks with pink add ons lol.
    in Party system is ruining the game Comment by Eul
  • Survivors are already stronger than killers without any new defense mechanism dude...except nurse and spirit.
    in A new Baseline Survivor defense Comment by Eul
  • bloxe said:
    powerbats said:

    Spamming the same thing over and over again and giving yourself awesomes or your pet accounts doing it doesn't change the fact you're wrong.

    SWF isn't broken and it's not as unfair as you make it out to be and in fact most are easy to beat because of how altruistic they are,.Also no removing swf will not make those pppl stay despite all of your illusionary false thinking.

    Why don't you go take a business class and then try and remove most of your customer base that supports you and then see how well you do. Your teacher will give you a F immediately and tell you don't ever try and run a business.

    If you're so positive that your idea will work then put your money where your mouth is and promise to pay the difference in lost revenue you and all the rest that think like you.

    @powerbats posts resumed in one line:

    "Waaah, waaah, dont take my only way to win."

    I agree that SWF should NOT be removed from the game, but killers need a way to have a fair game. Implementing unranked mode would be a great solution. Ranked for solo, unranked for SWF.
    That sounds good, but if that happens so one is going to play killer in unranked matches. What about giving killers extra blood points and survivors will have one more extra gen? That will make things much better for the killers
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  • powerbats said:

    Spamming the same thing over and over again and giving yourself awesomes or your pet accounts doing it doesn't change the fact you're wrong.

    SWF isn't broken and it's not as unfair as you make it out to be and in fact most are easy to beat because of how altruistic they are,.Also no removing swf will not make those pppl stay despite all of your illusionary false thinking.

    Why don't you go take a business class and then try and remove most of your customer base that supports you and then see how well you do. Your teacher will give you a F immediately and tell you don't ever try and run a business.

    If you're so positive that your idea will work then put your money where your mouth is and promise to pay the difference in lost revenue you and all the rest that think like you.

    If you do not agree on swf is broken then you must be really bad at this game. Every high ranked players agrees on this because they know how this game works and the mechanisms and stuff. Not like you.

    I gave you tons of reasons and facts why swf is broken up there and yet you didn't come up with any logical evidence and proof that why swf is not broken.
    Cus you can't.  It is broken and it is unfair. Done.

    I wonder if you even play this game tbh.
    Cus you are the only one person that I've met thinking swf isnt broken and unfair. I'm not even joking rn. Lol.

    Like i said, there are reasons why this game was designed without any communication tools for the survivors. Devs knew it and that's why they designed the game and rules like this. And discord breaks that very important rules that survivors shouldn't be communicating and sharing infos during the play.

    But come on, I'm guessing you are only playing as survs in low rank and I'm probably guessing right but dude...
    Seriously? Sharing 'where the killer is, where the hax totem is, how much pallets left in loop area, what kind of perks killer uses, if he is camping or not, the progress on each gen' is not broken? Woah... you must be really bad this game😂

    Yea maybe you are right about leaving ppl after removing the swf but that's something need to be fixed fast and even gone. Cus it is breaking the very essential game play mechanism.

    And please stop with that business and company Bs dude. This is balance discussion thread not the Game company simulator. 
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  • You know that survivors shouldn't be defending themselves from the killers right? Cus that's the whole concept and the rule of the game. They should be running away from the killers lol. Just look how DS and Old Flash light broke the whole balance and DS is still an issue. 
    in New ways to defend yourself as a survivor? Thoughts? Comment by Eul
  • Eul said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Eul said:

    So you are saying let it just leave here tho it's basically a cheating and it ruins other ppl's gaming experience just cus lots ppl plays as party? lol. that's just dumb. Why don't you just allow blood point save hack too? since lots ppl who got banned cus of it will return to the game once they do?

    You do realize how foolish both of those arguments are right because those are completely illogical and nonsensical.

    You run a business that caters to a large amount of people but most of your people like to buy a certain product. You in your infinite wisdom decide that that's not what you're going to carry anymore because you don't like their choice.

    So you stop carrying it and you suddenly lose the majority of your customers and then your business goes under all because you stopped carrying what your customers like.

    Now the whole it's cheating nonse, it's not cheating despite what you claim, that's your pinion and your opinion only. Which by the way means it's just your opinion and thus doesn't make it a fact, what is a fact is that the devs have said it's not cheating.

    Now blood point hack was modifying the actual game files which is of course a hack aka cheating, you know similar to speed hacks, multi hacks etc. Those are actually defined as cheating and thus are against the rules you know like the TOS/EULA.

    From the TOS these are things that're against the rules.

    Modify any part of the BHVR Services that BHVR does not specifically authorize you to modify. Aka cheating/hacking

    Maybe you should think about why devs didnt put communicating system such as chat or ping in the game in the first place. cus it will ruin the whole concept of the game! you think sharing those information is fair? like killer's current location, totem's location, Progress of gens, number of pallets in loop area and every other stuff? that's game breaking, if you don't think that's a cheating and breaking the game well them, you probably have no idea how this game works lol. ppl like you are the one who ruins the game, can't see things in long term, you'd rather leave the game broken and unbalanced to keep ppl for now and get more money, what about fix the game, then sure, lots of ppl will leave, but lots more will join and buy the game in the future. think about how many Game company got their bad reputation thinking and running the game with your kind of mindset. it may seems ok for now, but it will kill this game for sure.

    Yet you can't say anything about how Swf is broken and unfair. Cus all i said about swf was true.
    It's unfair, ridiculous and ruining other players gaming experience.

    Cus like i said it's basically a map hack that tell you every essential informations you need to know for survivors lol.

    And who said removing swf will kill the game? Some of them, yes they will quit but majority will be still playing this game facing the fact that swf is gone.
    Cus it was something that should be removed long ago.
    in Party system is ruining the game Comment by Eul
  • Eul said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Eul said:

    So you are saying let it just leave here tho it's basically a cheating and it ruins other ppl's gaming experience just cus lots ppl plays as party? lol. that's just dumb. Why don't you just allow blood point save hack too? since lots ppl who got banned cus of it will return to the game once they do?

    You do realize how foolish both of those arguments are right because those are completely illogical and nonsensical.

    You run a business that caters to a large amount of people but most of your people like to buy a certain product. You in your infinite wisdom decide that that's not what you're going to carry anymore because you don't like their choice.

    So you stop carrying it and you suddenly lose the majority of your customers and then your business goes under all because you stopped carrying what your customers like.

    Now the whole it's cheating nonse, it's not cheating despite what you claim, that's your pinion and your opinion only. Which by the way means it's just your opinion and thus doesn't make it a fact, what is a fact is that the devs have said it's not cheating.

    Now blood point hack was modifying the actual game files which is of course a hack aka cheating, you know similar to speed hacks, multi hacks etc. Those are actually defined as cheating and thus are against the rules you know like the TOS/EULA.

    From the TOS these are things that're against the rules.

    Modify any part of the BHVR Services that BHVR does not specifically authorize you to modify. Aka cheating/hacking

    Maybe you should think about why devs didnt put communicating system such as chat or ping in the game in the first place. cus it will ruin the whole concept of the game! you think sharing those information is fair? like killer's current location, totem's location, Progress of gens, number of pallets in loop area and every other stuff? that's game breaking, if you don't think that's a cheating and breaking the game well them, you probably have no idea how this game works lol. ppl like you are the one who ruins the game, can't see things in long term, you'd rather leave the game broken and unbalanced to keep ppl for now and get more money, what about fix the game, then sure, lots of ppl will leave, but lots more will join and buy the game in the future. think about how many Game company got their bad reputation thinking and running the game with your kind of mindset. it may seems ok for now, but it will kill this game for 

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  • Eul said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Eul said:

    So you are saying let it just leave here tho it's basically a cheating and it ruins other ppl's gaming experience just cus lots ppl plays as party? lol. that's just dumb. Why don't you just allow blood point save hack too? since lots ppl who got banned cus of it will return to the game once they do?

    You do realize how foolish both of those arguments are right because those are completely illogical and nonsensical.

    You run a business that caters to a large amount of people but most of your people like to buy a certain product. You in your infinite wisdom decide that that's not what you're going to carry anymore because you don't like their choice.

    So you stop carrying it and you suddenly lose the majority of your customers and then your business goes under all because you stopped carrying what your customers like.

    Now the whole it's cheating nonse, it's not cheating despite what you claim, that's your pinion and your opinion only. Which by the way means it's just your opinion and thus doesn't make it a fact, what is a fact is that the devs have said it's not cheating.

    Now blood point hack was modifying the actual game files which is of course a hack aka cheating, you know similar to speed hacks, multi hacks etc. Those are actually defined as cheating and thus are against the rules you know like the TOS/EULA.

    From the TOS these are things that're against the rules.

    Modify any part of the BHVR Services that BHVR does not specifically authorize you to modify. Aka cheating/hacking

    Maybe you should think about why devs didnt put communicating system such as chat or ping in the game in the first place. cus it will ruin the whole concept of the game! you think sharing those information is fair? like killer's current location, totem's location, Progress of gens, number of pallets in loop area and every other stuff? that's game breaking, if you don't think that's a cheating and breaking the game well them, you probably have no idea how this game works lol. ppl like you are the one who ruins the game, can't see things in long term, you'd rather leave the game broken and unbalanced to keep ppl for now and get more money, what about fix the game, then sure, lots of ppl will leave, but lots more will join and buy the game in the future. think about how many Game company got their bad reputation thinking and running the game with your kind of mindset. it may seems ok for now, but it will kill this game for sure.

    Yet you can't say anything about how Swf is broken and unfair. Cus all i said about swf was true.
    It's unfair, ridiculous and ruining other players gaming experience.

    Cus like i said it's basically a map hack that tell you every essential informations you need to know for survivors lol.

    And who said removing swf will kill the game? Some of them, yes they will quit but majority will be still playing this game facing the fact that swf is gone.
    Cus it was something that should be removed long ago.

    And there's so many facts and evidence that swf is making ppl quit and leaving bad memories and experiences for new players. You can literally look it up on any other DBD forum, website and reviews how new players who wanted to play killer had bad experiences from getting bullied by swf smurfs and telling ppl you shouldn't buy the game

     And if this game only works and can exist with broken balance and system. Maybe this game is better be
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  • Eul said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Eul said:

    So you are saying let it just leave here tho it's basically a cheating and it ruins other ppl's gaming experience just cus lots ppl plays as party? lol. that's just dumb. Why don't you just allow blood point save hack too? since lots ppl who got banned cus of it will return to the game once they do?

    You do realize how foolish both of those arguments are right because those are completely illogical and nonsensical.

    You run a business that caters to a large amount of people but most of your people like to buy a certain product. You in your infinite wisdom decide that that's not what you're going to carry anymore because you don't like their choice.

    So you stop carrying it and you suddenly lose the majority of your customers and then your business goes under all because you stopped carrying what your customers like.

    Now the whole it's cheating nonse, it's not cheating despite what you claim, that's your pinion and your opinion only. Which by the way means it's just your opinion and thus doesn't make it a fact, what is a fact is that the devs have said it's not cheating.

    Now blood point hack was modifying the actual game files which is of course a hack aka cheating, you know similar to speed hacks, multi hacks etc. Those are actually defined as cheating and thus are against the rules you know like the TOS/EULA.

    From the TOS these are things that're against the rules.

    Modify any part of the BHVR Services that BHVR does not specifically authorize you to modify. Aka cheating/hacking

    Maybe you should think about why devs didnt put communicating system such as chat or ping in the game in the first place. cus it will ruin the whole concept of the game! you think sharing those information is fair? like killer's current location, totem's location, Progress of gens, number of pallets in loop area and every other stuff? that's game breaking, if you don't think that's a cheating and breaking the game well them, you probably have no idea how this game works lol. ppl like you are the one who ruins the game, can't see things in long term, you'd rather leave the game broken and unbalanced to keep ppl for now and get more money, what about fix the game, then sure, lots of ppl will leave, but lots more will join and buy the game in the future. think about how many Game company got their bad reputation thinking and running the game with your kind of mindset. it may seems ok for now, but it will kill this game for sure.

    Yet you can't say anything about how Swf is broken and unfair. Cus all i said about swf was true.
    It's unfair, ridiculous and ruining other players gaming experience.

    Cus like i said it's basically a map hack that tell you every essential informations you need to know for survivors lol.

    And who said removing swf will kill the game? Some of them, yes they will quit but majority will be still playing this game facing the fact that swf is gone.
    Cus it was something that should be removed long ago.

    And there's so many facts and evidence that swf is making ppl quit and leaving bad memories and experiences for new players. You can literally look it up on any other DBD forum, website and reviews how new players who wanted to play killer had bad experiences from getting bullied by swf smurfs and telling ppl you shouldn't buy the game

     And if this game only works and can exist with broken balance and system. Maybe this game is just designed in a wrong way in the first god damn place so stop saying removing Swf will kill the game.
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  • DS is a bit op now. Yea i know they nurfed it by creating more hooks on the map. But 35% wiggle is still nothing, if you have DS and feel like you are gonna die then you can just give up on loop or pallet and just run far from the nearest hook. Or if your teammates are good enough they can just block the killer and only take a single hit will make it 35% ...

    And 4 seconds stun is just way too long while giving surv one more chance is already a bit too much.

    Some would say just get the enduring but...that's how they said when the flashlight was op. Oh just get the lightborn or Franklin...lol if you have played killer before you will know how ridiculous it is
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  • @powerbats said:

    @Eul said:

    So you are saying let it just leave here tho it's basically a cheating and it ruins other ppl's gaming experience just cus lots ppl plays as party? lol. that's just dumb. Why don't you just allow blood point save hack too? since lots ppl who got banned cus of it will return to the game once they do?

    You do realize how foolish both of those arguments are right because those are completely illogical and nonsensical.

    You run a business that caters to a large amount of people but most of your people like to buy a certain product. You in your infinite wisdom decide that that's not what you're going to carry anymore because you don't like their choice.

    So you stop carrying it and you suddenly lose the majority of your customers and then your business goes under all because you stopped carrying what your customers like.

    Now the whole it's cheating nonse, it's not cheating despite what you claim, that's your pinion and your opinion only. Which by the way means it's just your opinion and thus doesn't make it a fact, what is a fact is that the devs have said it's not cheating.

    Now blood point hack was modifying the actual game files which is of course a hack aka cheating, you know similar to speed hacks, multi hacks etc. Those are actually defined as cheating and thus are against the rules you know like the TOS/EULA.

    From the TOS these are things that're against the rules.

    Modify any part of the BHVR Services that BHVR does not specifically authorize you to modify. Aka cheating/hacking

    Yet you can't say anything about how swf is unfair and broken. Lol cus what i said is true.
    It is ruining other players experience and making ppl harder to join this game.

    If this game only can exist with broken balance and the system. Maybe it should be just die tbh.
    Lol.

    You can find how many new players experienced unpleasant and unfair game cus of swf smurf players and telling ppl not to buy this game. I'm serious, you can literally find it any forum and reviews lol.

    in Party system is ruining the game Comment by Eul

  • @powerbats said:

    @Eul said:

    So you are saying let it just leave here tho it's basically a cheating and it ruins other ppl's gaming experience just cus lots ppl plays as party? lol. that's just dumb. Why don't you just allow blood point save hack too? since lots ppl who got banned cus of it will return to the game once they do?

    You do realize how foolish both of those arguments are right because those are completely illogical and nonsensical.

    You run a business that caters to a large amount of people but most of your people like to buy a certain product. You in your infinite wisdom decide that that's not what you're going to carry anymore because you don't like their choice.

    So you stop carrying it and you suddenly lose the majority of your customers and then your business goes under all because you stopped carrying what your customers like.

    Now the whole it's cheating nonse, it's not cheating despite what you claim, that's your pinion and your opinion only. Which by the way means it's just your opinion and thus doesn't make it a fact, what is a fact is that the devs have said it's not cheating.

    Now blood point hack was modifying the actual game files which is of course a hack aka cheating, you know similar to speed hacks, multi hacks etc. Those are actually defined as cheating and thus are against the rules you know like the TOS/EULA.

    From the TOS these are things that're against the rules.

    Modify any part of the BHVR Services that BHVR does not specifically authorize you to modify. Aka cheating/hacking

    Maybe you should think about why devs didnt put communicating system such as chat or ping in the game in the first place. cus it will ruin the whole concept of the game! you think sharing those information is fair? like killer's current location, totem's location, Progress of gens, number of pallets in loop area and every other stuff? that's game breaking, if you don't think that's a cheating and breaking the game well them, you probably have no idea how this game works lol. ppl like you are the one who ruins the game, can't see things in long term, you'd rather leave the game broken and unbalanced to keep ppl for now and get more money, what about fix the game, then sure, lots of ppl will leave, but lots more will join and buy the game in the future. think about how many Game company got their bad reputation thinking and running the game with your kind of mindset. it may seems ok for now, but it will kill this game for sure.

    in Party system is ruining the game Comment by Eul

  • There can be no arguments, party system is broken and it is toxic for the game in long term.
    you have to see the big picture not the temporary profits company can get from party system.
    Just think about why devs didnt put chats and pings on the game for survivors? cus they knew it it's ridiculous!
    They can literally share every information on discord or any voice chat program from the location of totem to killers current location. and so much more. if it's not a cheating, then what is? it's basically a map hack, oh well it's actually worse than that cus they share so much more than just the location. lol even the number of pallets in the loop area(which is really important for the game for survivors and killer both)

    Devs are letting it cus they can't ban the voice chat program not because it is fine.
    Lol. if you think party system is fine and balanced then you must have no idea how this game works lol

    Your kind of mindset is what kills the game. look at the EA and so many other Game company.
    They only chase temporary money and users and end up ruining the game and get all the bad reputation
    you have to see the bigger picture dude. if you remove the Party system, yea lots ppl are gonna leave. but in a long term, much more will start and join the game! once they starts fixing the game and actually try to make game better.

    in Party system is ruining the game Comment by Eul

  • @powerbats said:

    @Eul said:

    @bloxe said:
    It gives the impression that devs dont really give a [BAD WORD] about the killers. Theyre just toys to survivors play with. Its disgusting.

    Ikr? they really should remove the party system out of game...i mean, it's basically a hack that tells you everything lol

    Yes remove the majority of the playerbase from the game, then when they all leave you won't have a game anymore to complain about. While we're at it take out playing with your friends in every online game I'm sure those companies will all manage to do quite well.

    @The_Crusader said:
    Always funny seeing the pics where new killers are upset that some swf sneaked in red ranks so they can loop the guy for 5 gens and bully him while the rest do gens.

    Wheres the fun in even playing like that?

    Yes because everyone is a red rank that joins just to bully the killer and loop them for 5 gens nonsense again. If you're getting looped for 5 gens that's your fault for being looped for 5 gens instead of going after someone else.

    There's a saying that Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results as in if you're getting looped that long that's insanity in action.

    That's like posting complete nonsense that's a complete fallacy that you know isn't true all in the hope it makes your argument look better.

    So you are saying let it just leave here tho it's basically a cheating and it ruins other ppl's gaming experience just cus lots ppl plays as party? lol. that's just dumb. Why don't you just allow blood point save hack too? since lots ppl who got banned cus of it will return to the game once they do?

    in Party system is ruining the game Comment by Eul

  • @The_Crusader said:
    Always funny seeing the pics where new killers are upset that some swf sneaked in red ranks so they can loop the guy for 5 gens and bully him while the rest do gens.

    Wheres the fun in even playing like that?

    I mean, even if you are a good killer it is almost impossible to win against party survivors anyway lol

    in Party system is ruining the game Comment by Eul

  • @se05239 said:

    @bloxe said:
    It gives the impression that devs dont really give a [BAD WORD] about the killers. Theyre just toys to survivors play with. Its disgusting.

    Survivor fun has always been the most important thing in Dead by Daylight. Behavior cater to the majority.

    the thing is, you can't play as survivor without killers Lol

    in Party system is ruining the game Comment by Eul

  • @bloxe said:
    It gives the impression that devs dont really give a [BAD WORD] about the killers. Theyre just toys to survivors play with. Its disgusting.

    Ikr? they really should remove the party system out of game...i mean, it's basically a hack that tells you everything lol

    in Party system is ruining the game Comment by Eul
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