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Agreed. I wish I had the experience of the person above, but I haven't really felt welcomed in both games and the forum
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@Elena said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/258222/guys-chill
I agree with the harassment point, nobody should be doing that. However I disagree with the rest.
For starters, I don't think writing a condescending thread is going to help people agree with you here, it'll only make them disagree with you more.
"There will always be bugs with the release of a chapter. They can't possibly find every single bug before they release it."
That's why the PTB is a thing, however that has been proven time and time again that it's useless because there have been cases where bugs in the PTB are carried over to the live version and sometimes the live version includes more bugs than what was shown. Look at A binding of kin for example.
"their testing is only with a fraction of the player base. You can't expect them to test the game with a small amount of people and then release it to thousands of people and have there be no bugs. It just doesn't work like that."
I think after playing several PTB's in a row with little to no bug fixes, we gathered that already. Also the developers ask us to report any bugs we find in the PTB TO the forums so they can investigate on it, so of course we expect them to fix those bugs. However they ignored all feedback regarding the reworked HUD when it first released, they failed to fix any bugs in the Twins PTB and a binding of kin pretty much released unfinished.
"You don't need to be playing DbD 24/7"
I have never seen a player who does that, if they do they need to go to a hospital.
"Let them do their job, thank them for their work."
Oh we've let them (even though it's not our decision) several times, but I'll thank them once DbD has got rid of ALL the bugs (which probably won't be for a while).
"If you don't like these bugs every chapter, then just stop playing."
Telling us to simply "stop playing" isn't going to silence us just because there's a minority who disagree with our criticism. While most of the time the criticism is valid, I will admit there are times people cross the line. However I don't think it's fair to tell those with valid criticism to just "stop playing" as you're overlooking the issue and diminishing their argument.
"Just find a new game."
Reminds me of that Mathieu Cote quote.
I respect your response. I didn't mean for this post to be condescending to anyone other than the people who I'm talking about, which are those who are harassing and threatening the team.
Like I said before, bugs suck. It does suck we have to deal with it. And it sucks that we have them despite PTB, and of course I'll hold the team accountable. But they have already fixed the problem (DBD servers are up again and you can now play). Again, it's hard for them to catch all the bugs in PTB and there will be new ones upon release because of the different server size. You can be upset about the bugs, but harassing and threatening people isn't okay. And I think you are focusing on purely the times bugs haven't been fixed from PTB to release, because there have been a lot of bugs that have been fixed.
The 24/7 thing was a joke. Obviously.
I said thank the developers because I'm sure a lot of them are under stress. You can still thank the developers and be upset at the same time. Here's and example: "I'm upset about the bugs and I feel that you Behavior developers need to do better, and I expect you to do better, but thank you for working on fixing them in such a timely manner." It's not that hard to be civil and respectful. It's not so black and white.
I'm not trying to silence those who are upset. They can speak. But those who are harassing and threatening others are ######### people and they do need to stop doing that. Plus, may I remind you that harassment is illegal? Those who are so upset with the game that they are resorting to violent behavior like harassment need to stop playing. Them resorting to illegal actions that can mentally harm a person (which the developers are) is not worth it. Those are the people that need to stop playing. Additionally, no one is forcing people to buy DLC. Those who are complaining and are upset don't have to spend their money on it. If these bugs are such a known problem, these people should know not to buy the DLC until the bugs get fixed. No matter what, the base game will still be playable. But if people are getting so upset time and time again, there are other games they can play that are similar. By moving to another game, they can stop supporting Behavior, which many seem to want.
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@Luciferr_2nd said:
But everyone is being affected right now, not just people who bought the dlc.
We have a right to complain, we love this game and its annoying when its unplayable.
We are understanding that there are human people behind this game, we are giving them feedback so we can work together to build a better DBD.
Unfortunately, a lot of people have been sending threats. You may be civil, but 90% of the people complaining aren't. They're working hard to fix the bugs and while it may suck to not be able to play the game for a day or so, they'll likely have fixed a lot by the time the game is up. And then everyone can play after. No one is losing their right to play the game they bought for all eternity.
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Completely agree. No one is forcing people to buy the new DLC. Plus, the bugs are being worked on now, and Behavior often foxes most bugs from a new chapter release within a week.
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@Karao_Ke said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2279254#Comment_2279254
There's a difference between a regular bug and something that totally breaks the game because right now a lot of people are unable to play until they fix this. Once again, nobody should be harassing the devs but you cannot tell me its excusable. You have to hold things like this accountable because if you don't it'll never get better. Look at EA as an example.
It didn't break the game, they shut down the servers so they could fix the bugs because everyone was complaining. It was playable before, and I know because I played multiple games (on console, where most of the problems were) and I could still play.
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@Angelicus23 said:
I am not going to stay in silence after they asked me 12€ for a DLC, aditionally, 50€ on skins that in a few hours later went more forced to buy together with no explanation, then even ignoring all these prices by ignoring the DLC I get the rest of my game ######### because apparently 3 weeks of testing wasn't enough for so many bugs making the game unplayable
no one's forcing you to buy the DLC. You chose to buy it yourself despite knowing bugs occur often after chapter releases. Plus, the game WILL become playable. Just give it a few days and I'm sure many of the bugs will be solved because the developers work hard
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@BingBongMan said:
Uncalled for?
Oh buddy, if you've been playing as long as us then you would know it is HEAVILY called for.
I've been playing since release, and I've seen the game improve a lot over time. Additionally, harassment is never called for.
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@Karao_Ke said:
Tell that to all the people on console/with low end PCs who can't play the game because of the unbearable lag this update has brought, as if it wasn't bad enough.
Listen, I understand not every update and chapter is going to be perfect and I in no way support harassing the developers but you have to think, how did they screw up so bad?
I am on console, and like I said earlier, bugs suck. It's okay to be upset about them, but I have seen so many people on this forum and on Twitter harassing the developers.
They didnt screw up at all. They just can't get every single bug in testing because there isn't the same amount of people in the server as in the regular games. And even if you do consider it screwed up, they've been working on fixing them right away
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@Lexilogo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1988144#Comment_1988144
I don't think an over the top mask or deformities are necessary, but in his current state, if you removed the blood splatters, he'd genuinely just look like a normal person.
I appreciate the "yeah, but real serial killers don't look like monsters", and that's perfectly true- But not only does that have little to do with visual design/appeal, but The Trickster doesn't exactly scream "normal person" either.
Kpop (and music groups in general) often use makeup, so that's what I would suggest as a way to create a divide between his popstar persona and his actual personality. Something that could pass as real makeup to try and beautify a band member, but looks unsettling when on the face of a grinning maniac.
The makeup K-pop idols wear isn't enough to actually do that though. It would be some eyeliner, light eyeshadow, and lip stain...It would honestly make the character look better (and better as in prettier)
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I absolutely love this killer, mainly because he has so much personality. Most killers in the game have no personality, so you can't really get too invested in their backstory and appreciate the character.
A lot of people are saying that he isn't scary, which I get- he's not the typical big, buff, broody man with a mask that a lot of horror fans are used to. But for me, if I saw this dude in real life, I would be terrified. Regular-looking Humans have always been scarier to me than monsters. It's only one character out of the many others and if this killer brings in swarms of K-pop fans and I wont have to wait in a lobby for 10 minutes before getting into a match, then I will be very happy.