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Idk it might just be me then bc every spirit I vs it's just impossible for me to get a savexxaggieboyxx said:You can flashlight save people I have done it. Pallets however you can't blind I have noticed it as killer and survivor. She looks down so much when she breaks it the beam isn't hitting her eyes. Idk if it's a bug or intended. I hope it's intended because she already has some trouble chasing survivors and flashlight blinds don't help
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Every time I go to blind her at a pallet or get a save I don't get killer blind ER anythinDabrownman1812 said:
There's an instablind thing that happens to the spirit, idk what you mean by being unable to be blinded. Have you played the spirit?kingreaps said:The spirit needs a fix bc she is unable to be blinded by flash lights for saves and at palletes -
Ad-ons how odd that all people say just use pallets and windows but u absolutely right on the fact that he discourges you to use them so if u can't really do anything with them how do u counter himDemonDaddy said:I'm not arguing that he's difficult to play against, simply he's a well-balanced mid-tier killer . He is a base speed killer that can slow people for his power and direct the chase. not stronger than Billy and nurse's power. Does not excel at canceling stealth like doc. And you keep coming back to 115 movement speed versus the Survivor affected speed but that's not accurate for the entire chasing as the speed debuff only last a short period of time so unless you're being consistently hit with every bottle you are not in a constant state of slow movement.. on top of this all killers are faster than you simply because one has a slowing power does not mean he is broken or unbalanced. You also mentioned pallets and Windows; how they're unusable which is strange because his power is meant to discourage you from using those. how odd Right?
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Lol ad-ons that can give I'm more and yeah he can he can spam all 4 in one area or how ever many the ad-ons give himWolf74 said:Oh yea… he can totally "spam" 4 bottles, before he needs to reload facepalm
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I really find it funny how that all people say is go to a window or pallet if he get u with a bottle go to another one but do u not realize that he as no cool down in-between bottles so he can just spam them has no penalty to stopping the reloaded his speed is just the topping on the cakeSeasonedHunter said:If you see clown go stealth. If clown spots you go to pallet or window. If he throughs a bottle to cut of your loop go to another one. If you get caught in the open with nothing around why should he not hit you? Also stop complaining about the bottle causing slow vaults. The clown has to hit you at the right time to cause that so he deserves that hit. Come to think of it you must hate Doctor too yes? After all his power stops that vault altogether. But you didn't lose to a Doctor before raging on here so he doesn't need a speed nerf right?
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Ton of reason like what use windows and pallets don't get cought in open filds that a ton of reasons for sure dudeZombieGenesis said:People give him a ton of reasons...
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Lol what u putting a gif for? Bc I just stated valed information that windows and pllets don't even help bc 115 speed against 85 speedblue4zion said:@kingreaps said:
Jack11803 said:@kingreaps said:
ZombieGenesis said:
And yet the game has still shed 30% of its player base in the last 2 months. At least on the PC based on steam numbers. His "speed" is no greater than that of any other killer standard speed killer. But, yeah, let the nerfing begin for those easy wins, right?
But do anyother killers have gass to slow you down to 85 speed? And any other killer has counters like u can counter the chainsaw with walls and windows and trapper traps are one of the easiest things to counter hatchets are easy to counter what's the counter for his gass not a wall ur at 85 speed not a window instant slow vault not a pallet insta slow vault please tell me a counter to it
“Does literally any other killer besides nurse have blinks!?” No. And that’s how it should be.
Your right but 115 speed can easily catch 85 speed from running around the wall the window is on and can easily catch u even after breaking a pallet bc u stay at 85 speed for 2 min and he has ad-ons the make the time longer so he might as well have the blink ability with 115 speed
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blue4zion said:
@kingreaps said:
Jack11803 said:@kingreaps said:
ZombieGenesis said:
And yet the game has still shed 30% of its player base in the last 2 months. At least on the PC based on steam numbers. His "speed" is no greater than that of any other killer standard speed killer. But, yeah, let the nerfing begin for those easy wins, right?
But do anyother killers have gass to slow you down to 85 speed? And any other killer has counters like u can counter the chainsaw with walls and windows and trapper traps are one of the easiest things to counter hatchets are easy to counter what's the counter for his gass not a wall ur at 85 speed not a window instant slow vault not a pallet insta slow vault please tell me a counter to it
“Does literally any other killer besides nurse have blinks!?” No. And that’s how it should be.
Your right but 115 speed can easily catch 85 speed from running around the wall the window is on and can easily catch u even after breaking a pallet bc u stay at 85 speed for 2 min and he has ad-ons the make the time longer so he might as well have the blink ability with 115 speedblue4zion said:
@kingreaps said:
Jack11803 said:@kingreaps said:
ZombieGenesis said:
And yet the game has still shed 30% of its player base in the last 2 months. At least on the PC based on steam numbers. His "speed" is no greater than that of any other killer standard speed killer. But, yeah, let the nerfing begin for those easy wins, right?
But do anyother killers have gass to slow you down to 85 speed? And any other killer has counters like u can counter the chainsaw with walls and windows and trapper traps are one of the easiest things to counter hatchets are easy to counter what's the counter for his gass not a wall ur at 85 speed not a window instant slow vault not a pallet insta slow vault please tell me a counter to it
“Does literally any other killer besides nurse have blinks!?” No. And that’s how it should be.
Your right but 115 speed can easily catch 85 speed from running around the wall the window is on and can easily catch u even after breaking a pallet bc u stay at 85 speed for 2 min and he has ad-ons the make the time longer so he might as well have the blink ability with 115 speed
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Your right but 115 speed can easily catch 85 speed from running around the wall the window is on and can easily catch u even after breaking a pallet bc u stay at 85 speed for 2 min and he has ad-ons the make the time longer so he might as well have the blink ability with 115 speedJack11803 said:@kingreaps said:
ZombieGenesis said:And yet the game has still shed 30% of its player base in the last 2 months. At least on the PC based on steam numbers. His "speed" is no greater than that of any other killer standard speed killer. But, yeah, let the nerfing begin for those easy wins, right?
But do anyother killers have gass to slow you down to 85 speed? And any other killer has counters like u can counter the chainsaw with walls and windows and trapper traps are one of the easiest things to counter hatchets are easy to counter what's the counter for his gass not a wall ur at 85 speed not a window instant slow vault not a pallet insta slow vault please tell me a counter to it
“Does literally any other killer besides nurse have blinks!?” No. And that’s how it should be.
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Thank u some one with actual reasons but even with all those reasons I still think he needs a speed nerf and play style for different killers it's play style for maps bc there are times where I have juked the clown and 360 but Evan if u do that he's right back on your ass and can u guess why? His speedIceman said:
Clown is my second favorite killer that I like to play as. I tend to get average of two kills on good days. There are days where all survivors escape or I am lucky enough to get a 4K kill.kingreaps said:
Explain how he's fine I've given multiple reasons why he should be nerfed but no wants to say any reasons on why he's fine other then if u nerf his speed his powers useless when his power slows you down and he's 115 speed and doesn't need something to slow you down when he can keep up with you with out his gass with his gass it's just to rediculesACEvHEARTS said:He’s fine the way he is.
Speaking of exploits though, I had a clown the other day who used his bottle throwing stance to wedge himself practically inside survivors on the hook. It ended up having the equivalent effect of old school facecamping before MD hooks, so nobody could get saved. That nonsense better get patched soon.
(And yes, survivor exploits need to gtfo too)
edit: my autocorrect sh!t the bed
The clown doesn’t need a nerf because his bottles need to be thrown at perfect timing. You can counter the clown bottles when he throws them in an open field. Also if two of my bottles do not hit the survivor then I have to try to regain my steps so I can get a hit on a survivor. It is very important to not misuse your bottle because it can become a long chase when a survivor loops you.
The only smart time for a clown to reload his bottle is when by pallets or after hooking a survivor. Other than it wouldn’t be so smart.
The clown needs to at least get one hook before two gens pop otherwise it will be a challenging game for the clown.
There are plenty of ways to outplay a killer, you shouldn’t depend on always running. You can take risk by trying to juke killer or 360. I was able to juke a clown for the duration of the last gen being done.
You say clown always get 4K, I would love to see at least 5gameplay screenshots of you playing as the clown. And I would prefer if you are below rank 10 -
Give me some examples Mr internet smart ass please I'd love to hear how he so balancedChesterTheMolester said:
Everyone has given you a [BAD WORD] billion reasons hes balanced but you decided to dismiss it all using "toxic/entitled main" which is not an argument but just this games version of Godwins Law.kingreaps said:
Explain how he's fine I've given multiple reasons why he should be nerfed but no wants to say any reasons on why he's fine other then if u nerf his speed his powers useless when his power slows you down and he's 115 speed and doesn't need something to slow you down when he can keep up with you with out his gass with his gass it's just to rediculesACEvHEARTS said:He’s fine the way he is.
Speaking of exploits though, I had a clown the other day who used his bottle throwing stance to wedge himself practically inside survivors on the hook. It ended up having the equivalent effect of old school facecamping before MD hooks, so nobody could get saved. That nonsense better get patched soon.
(And yes, survivor exploits need to gtfo too)
edit: my autocorrect sh!t the bed
At this point i will just ask you to print out your stupid thread and attach it to your application for disability allowance cause that way you didnt waste your time on this forum.
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So give me some reasons bc not a single person has given me a valid reason Mr internet smart assChesterTheMolester said:
Everyone has given you a [BAD WORD] billion reasons hes balanced but you decided to dismiss it all using "toxic/entitled main" which is not an argument but just this games version of Godwins Law.kingreaps said:
Explain how he's fine I've given multiple reasons why he should be nerfed but no wants to say any reasons on why he's fine other then if u nerf his speed his powers useless when his power slows you down and he's 115 speed and doesn't need something to slow you down when he can keep up with you with out his gass with his gass it's just to rediculesACEvHEARTS said:He’s fine the way he is.
Speaking of exploits though, I had a clown the other day who used his bottle throwing stance to wedge himself practically inside survivors on the hook. It ended up having the equivalent effect of old school facecamping before MD hooks, so nobody could get saved. That nonsense better get patched soon.
(And yes, survivor exploits need to gtfo too)
edit: my autocorrect sh!t the bed
At this point i will just ask you to print out your stupid thread and attach it to your application for disability allowance cause that way you didnt waste your time on this forum.
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Lol not understanding use a window or pallet but mid vault get hit by bottle instantly on ur ass bc speed use a pallet throws a bottle so u drop it get hit threw it he breaks it ur slowed and he's instantly on your ass bc his speed but I don't know how to play against him tho rightblue4zion said:@kingreaps said:
blue4zion said:@kingreaps said:
blue4zion said:
"I don't know how to play against this killer but i don't want to learn how I just want nerfs >:I"
This discussion has given me so many laughs tonight, thank yoif u have red my last thing that I said u wouldn't be making statements like "I don' know how to play this killer I just want nerf" and your probly a killer main so expected u do what it nerfed
red... probly....? oh sorry
um I'm absolutely not a killer main thanks to the stress of playing killer xD
The clown is not op. Use pallets and use windows. He might be hard for survivors whos only tactic is to loop, considering his power helps against loops.
I'm not going to go any further into trying to help you understand why he's not op considering how many responses you've just disregarded and how set you are in thinking you're right.
" u have red my last thing that I said u wouldn't be making statements like "I don' know how to play this killer I just want nerf"
I didn't make a statement lol I was poking fun at you xD
"Use pallets and windows" clown throws bottle insta slow vault to a free hit can u tell me why? His speed that's why
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you make potato decisions that allow you to be hit
ok sorry I'm done responding fr, cause you're so thick headed that you won't even consider the fact that you've just not fully understood how to play against him. Byeee
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"Use pallets and windows" clown throws bottle insta slow vault to a free hit can u tell me why? His speed that's whyblue4zion said:@kingreaps said:
blue4zion said:"I don't know how to play against this killer but i don't want to learn how I just want nerfs >:I"
This discussion has given me so many laughs tonight, thank yoif u have red my last thing that I said u wouldn't be making statements like "I don' know how to play this killer I just want nerf" and your probly a killer main so expected u do what it nerfed
red... probly....? oh sorry
um I'm absolutely not a killer main thanks to the stress of playing killer xD
The clown is not op. Use pallets and use windows. He might be hard for survivors whos only tactic is to loop, considering his power helps against loops.
I'm not going to go any further into trying to help you understand why he's not op considering how many responses you've just disregarded and how set you are in thinking you're right." u have red my last thing that I said u wouldn't be making statements like "I don' know how to play this killer I just want nerf"
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blue4zion said:
"I don't know how to play against this killer but i don't want to learn how I just want nerfs >:I"
This discussion has given me so many laughs tonight, thank yoif u have red my last thing that I said u wouldn't be making statements like "I don' know how to play this killer I just want nerf" and your probly a killer main so expected u do what it nerfed
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Thank u some one with actual reasons but even with all those reasons I still think he needs a speed nerf and play style for different killers it's play style for maps bc there are times where I have juked the clown and 360 butIceman said:
Clown is my second favorite killer that I like to play as. I tend to get average of two kills on good days. There are days where all survivors escape or I am lucky enough to get a 4K kill.kingreaps said:
Explain how he's fine I've given multiple reasons why he should be nerfed but no wants to say any reasons on why he's fine other then if u nerf his speed his powers useless when his power slows you down and he's 115 speed and doesn't need something to slow you down when he can keep up with you with out his gass with his gass it's just to rediculesACEvHEARTS said:He’s fine the way he is.
Speaking of exploits though, I had a clown the other day who used his bottle throwing stance to wedge himself practically inside survivors on the hook. It ended up having the equivalent effect of old school facecamping before MD hooks, so nobody could get saved. That nonsense better get patched soon.
(And yes, survivor exploits need to gtfo too)
edit: my autocorrect sh!t the bed
The clown doesn’t need a nerf because his bottles need to be thrown at perfect timing. You can counter the clown bottles when he throws them in an open field. Also if two of my bottles do not hit the survivor then I have to try to regain my steps so I can get a hit on a survivor. It is very important to not misuse your bottle because it can become a long chase when a survivor loops you.
The only smart time for a clown to reload his bottle is when by pallets or after hooking a survivor. Other than it wouldn’t be so smart.
The clown needs to at least get one hook before two gens pop otherwise it will be a challenging game for the clown.
There are plenty of ways to outplay a killer, you shouldn’t depend on always running. You can take risk by trying to juke killer or 360. I was able to juke a clown for the duration of the last gen being done.
You say clown always get 4K, I would love to see at least 5gameplay screenshots of you playing as the clown. And I would prefer if you are below rank 10 -
Give me some examples Mr internet smart assChesterTheMolester said:
Everyone has given you a [BAD WORD] billion reasons hes balanced but you decided to dismiss it all using "toxic/entitled main" which is not an argument but just this games version of Godwins Law.kingreaps said:
Explain how he's fine I've given multiple reasons why he should be nerfed but no wants to say any reasons on why he's fine other then if u nerf his speed his powers useless when his power slows you down and he's 115 speed and doesn't need something to slow you down when he can keep up with you with out his gass with his gass it's just to rediculesACEvHEARTS said:He’s fine the way he is.
Speaking of exploits though, I had a clown the other day who used his bottle throwing stance to wedge himself practically inside survivors on the hook. It ended up having the equivalent effect of old school facecamping before MD hooks, so nobody could get saved. That nonsense better get patched soon.
(And yes, survivor exploits need to gtfo too)
edit: my autocorrect sh!t the bed
At this point i will just ask you to print out your stupid thread and attach it to your application for disability allowance cause that way you didnt waste your time on this forum. -
Explain how he's fine I've given multiple reasons why he should be nerfed but no wants to say any reasons on why he's fine other then if u nerf his speed his powers useless when his power slows you down and he's 115 speed and doesn't need something to slow you down when he can keep up with you with out his gass with his gass it's just to rediculesACEvHEARTS said:He’s fine the way he is.
Speaking of exploits though, I had a clown the other day who used his bottle throwing stance to wedge himself practically inside survivors on the hook. It ended up having the equivalent effect of old school facecamping before MD hooks, so nobody could get saved. That nonsense better get patched soon.
(And yes, survivor exploits need to gtfo too)
edit: my autocorrect sh!t the bed
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How is he balanced explainSwiftblade131 said:Literally the most balanced killer in the game, and you are complaining?
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Exactly my point. No way to counter play the clown and u know that ur just a killer main who doesn't want him nerfed so u can continue getting easy 4 kills because it takes no effort with the clown bc how op he isZombieGenesis said:Good, I'm glad we agree that he's balanced.
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Okay so tell me the counters to the gass then if u just have all the answers please tell me and I'm saying nerf bc I look at it both ways as survivor his gass is op and as the killer I see that it's ridiculous that he's 115 and drops u down to 85 nd also like the fact the he stays 115 when he's reloading and there's no delay to him canceling the reloaded so he can instantly hit you off the cancelled animation but he's pretty balanced thoZombieGenesis said:It's called the killer's power, it's his advantage, it's what helps balance him against the fact that he's one against four. It's supposed to give him an advantage over survivors. Even so, The Clown, like any other killer, has his counters. You have to learn how to avoid him and his attacks. It's not that difficult. And if he does catch you with the gas? Again, THAT'S HIS ADVANTAGE.
You are right about one thing, other killer powers are entirely too easy to counter. That's the problem. Survivor mains are so accustomed to powers they can just pretty much avoid that when they're faced with a killer who has an ability that can actually affect them they cry for nerfs as loudly as they can.
Again, gotta get those easy wins!
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But do anyother killers have gass to slow you down to 85 speed? And any other killer has counters like u can counter the chainsaw with walls and windows and trapper traps are one of the easiest things to counter hatchets are easy to counter what's the counter for his gass not a wall ur at 85 speed not a window instant slow vault not a pallet insta slow vault please tell me a counter to itZombieGenesis said:And yet the game has still shed 30% of its player base in the last 2 months. At least on the PC based on steam numbers. His "speed" is no greater than that of any other killer standard speed killer. But, yeah, let the nerfing begin for those easy wins, right?
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Lmao in the last 2 months the game has been alive more then ever ur a funny guy and yeah nerf him bc his power doesn't help in chases bc his speed already gives him enough helpZombieGenesis said:Yup, the killer has a power that helps him in a chase...better nerf it so instead he has a power that compensates for a weakness bringing him up, briefly, to the speed of other killers. Brilliant. And people wonder why this game has lost almost 30% of its player base in the last 2 months.
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Again he doesn't need his power because of his speed his speed makes his power useless why have a killer with 115 speed with a power to slow you to 85 I'm pretty sure that 115 is higher then 100 he's to fast his power is useless with him being 115 speedDemonDaddy said:Its not that he is to fast; he is designed to keep the survivors from performing endless chases. You have to treat him differently than a normal killer chase. Break los as early as possible( map can make this difficult ). Boldness will serve you no purpose without skill to bait his throws. The longer the chase, the worse your chances if the player is good. As to without his power, that is just a bad chase on survivor side.kingreaps said:He can do that with out his power like what are u saying -
your probly a little clown main and don't think anything wrong with him bc it's easy 4k like come on now kid 115 that slows u to 85 with ad ons to make the effect last longerthekiller490490 said:
Simple answer. NOkingreaps said:In my opinion the clowns is a bit to over powered because he is way too fast and there is no counter to his power with is speed being extreamly fast
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When your in the gass u drop to 85 speed for 2 seconds so 110 or 105 would make him a bit more balanced + he has ad ons to make it longer so i mean every one says it's only for 2 seconds but forget that he has ad ons to increase the slowness but he ballenced 115 with bottles that slow you down to 85Dragonredking said:@kingreaps said:
How is it going to make his power useless his power is to slow you down how is it fair that with out his bottles he can keep up with you and with his bottles he can keep up with you so please explainThe after piece tonic slow down a survivor by 15% for 2 second whenever they enter the gas.
The normal killer speed is 115%
The slow killer speed is 105%
If they gave him the slow killer speed he would be useless because his power would be to be able to go barely faster than a normal killer speed for 2 second whenever a survivor get in the gaz.
WICH WOULD MAKE HIS POWER USELESS
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Gotta learn how to play against him when he can just spam bottles even if you bait the bottles he's just going to spam and he does well against loop with out the bottles 100 speed survivers 115 clown can keep up with out his power his speed makes that whole thing of his gass slowing u to 85 is useless when he is 115 and keeps up with out his powerElegant said:@kingreaps said:
In my opinion the clowns is a bit to over powered because he is way too fast and there is no counter to his power with is speed being extreamly fastHe has baseline speed for killers. Anything less than what he has would result in him being pretty awful. His power does really well vs loops/people running in straight lines. Have to try and bait out his bottles before he gets too close too you. Gotta learn how to play against him.
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He can do that with out his power like what are u sayingDemonDaddy said:He is base speed, his power helps to close the gap and deter loopers from playing an area to long. If you're trying to outrun the killer you not playing right
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How is it going to make his power useless his power is to slow you down how is it fair that with out his bottles he can keep up with you and with his bottles he can keep up with you so please explainDragonredking said:Firstly, I know people must have pretty much hammered it in your face at this point but the clown is the same speed at pretty much every single killer in the game at the exeption of nurse T1 myers and the hag.
Making him slower will make his power useless, nurse slowdown is because her power make her able to gain a tremendous advantage.
If you think the clown power to be enought of a justification to having him be slower than base speed you are insane.Secondly...
*Think
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Lol but he does need a nerf himselfSovererignKing said:
Regardless... you should have specified that you were talking about the speed reload add on stacking. Saying the add ons need a nerf, not the clown himself.jiminie said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
jiminie said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
jiminie said:
@Tsulan said: kingreaps said:
Tsulan said: He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast? Does the rapper have anything to slow you down mid-chase and instantly catch you? Yes, traps. kingreaps said: Tsulan said: He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast? And theres also ways to counter the trapper no way to counter the gass Just don't run through his gas. He has a really limited amount of bottles. jiminie said: He's not that fast, just kids exploiting his whisky bottle
Oh wow, using a killers ability is exploiting now... I thought you're better than this, are you goin' to tell me you don't know about his precious bottle exploit ?
I tested it. It doesn't do anything. Nice try though.
Can you stop being a Hypocrite? Last night i had a match with this kind of person, exploiting it like hell, look it up, i'm not making anything up
Do you even know what the word hypocrite means? At what point was I being hypocritical?
I've done the clown dance to meme with with the last survivor before I gave them the hatch, there's literally no discernible difference.
'I tested it.It doesen't do anything' oh my god, are you for real ?
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No but these was to counter the other killers with 115 speedVankruze said:The clown isn't faster than other 115% speed killers. unless you encountered bloodlust which applies to all killers.
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That's the thing tho even at safe pallets and buildings he can still get u super easy bc the gass mixed with bloodlust and his speed in generinAmelia said:You can fake him out if you now what i mean, make him waste his bottles and don't get caught in the open, he's not much of a threat if you're near some safe pallets or buildings
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Exactly if u run in to it there ways to counter the trapper there no way to really counter the gassCoolAKn said:@kingreaps said:
Tsulan said:He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast?
Does the rapper have anything to slow you down mid-chase and instantly catch you?
The Trapper's traps do just that if you run into one during a chase.
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And theres also ways to counter the trapper no way to counter the gassTsulan said:He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast?
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Does the rapper have anything to slow you down mid-chase and instantly catch you?Tsulan said:He's as fast as the trapper. Would you consider the trapper to be to fast? -
I just feel there is no counter bc as soon as u get hit with his gass he's instantly on you and get a free hitjiminie said:He's not that fast, just kids exploiting his whisky bottle