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Here is Otzdarva talking about a similar situation
https://youtu.be/1kqWbP64FX4?si=Jk1EPDNv1tQZ6yLq -
Forgot to mention, the screenshot is from the Dead By Daylight discord general chat
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@Seraphor said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3696272#Comment_3696272
however this doesn't change the fact that 90% of the time it happens, it is due to the survivor making fun of the killer, taunting the killer's inefficiency or a lack of skill
Are you sure about this or are you assuming?
I'm neither sure nor assuming it, I experience it. I have in-game chat enabled to prove it.
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@Seraphor said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3696256#Comment_3696256
Which you cannot possibly know.
Unless you engage in chat afterwards, you can't know the intentions of the person teabagging or hitting on hook. It doesn't have to be out of hate. It can be in good humour too.
It can be in good humour too.
It infact can, however this doesn't change the fact that 90% of the time it happens, it is due to the survivor making fun of the killer, taunting the killer's inefficiency or a lack of skill, which in many cases, either creates a toxic killer, or demotivates them and pushes them away from playing the game.
I've noticed from a lot of games where survivors interact with me as a killer, they are much more likely to do it to frusturate me rather than do it playfully. And the difference between the two are obvious in most cases. When the survivor is facing their back when they are teabagging, they emit the feeling they are taunting the killer for being slow or careless. If they teabag towards the killer, they are sharing a funny moment's humour or expressing their proudness of themselves for something they did. Not a lot of funny things happen in a murdering horror game, and considering the killer is supossed to chase down and kill the survivors as an objective, their mindset is less likely to be taking in the emotes of the survivors as friendly expressions. I'm saying this from my own and my friends' perspectives that I have spectated playing killer. Only time the survivors make the killer feel like they are doing it in a friendly manner is in a custom game with friends, because they know each other and are friends, they are doing it for the fun, not for the competition. Which is a different case for when you are playing with 4 people you don't know and your objective is to get them out of the game as soon as possible.
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@Seraphor said:
Toxicity is everywhere, teabagging at exit gates, nodding and forward-backward movement on knocked survivors, hitting on hook,
This is not toxicity. This can only offend you if you choose it to. They're simply emotes, actions that the games allows everyone to do for expression or communication, and they don't always mean something offensive.
There used to be a thing called rivalry banter, where people could express their enjoyment at beating their opponent in good humour, and in turn take their oponents celebrations in stride.
But nowadays everyone assumes if someone is addressing them via the internet it must be a dire insult in some way.
slowing down crouching animations … not being able to crouch at all at exit gates
Not possible or ever going to happen. Crouching is a necessary gameplay mechanic for dodging projectile attacks and hiding behind cover. You slow this down and you drastically nerf survivors.
This can only offend you if you choose it to.
Yeah, it doesn't always offend me, sometimes it makes me disappointed that after a really fair match, they do it. Sometimes I just wonder what's going through their thoughts, however at the end, there is always the frusturation that it causes. Even if they are doing it in a playful manner, it sometimes makes me feel like I'm playing the game to entertain 4 players, not to have fun myself.
It is just an emote.
Yeah it is, and emotes could get frusturating and is unnecessary for a horror game, especially taunting. Because in a real-life scenario nobody would attempt to taunt the person trying to murder them. It is just not needed to include, and an easy solution could be so that the killer can simply decide to end the match early and give up, take their rewards and leave when the exit gates are powered. Or the survivors just cannot crouch at exit gates since it will do low to no assistance since you basically already escaped.
Crouching is a necessary gameplay mechanic for dodging projectile attacks and hiding behind cover.
Yeah, I could agree that you have a point there. But having the choice of being able to surrender after the exit gates have powered at no cost. Same for vice versa, survivors can give up after a killer gets a sacrifice or a kill with a vote, rather than disconnecting and negatively impacting the survival chance of others as well as negatively impacting their own progression with the game.
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@VomitMommy said:
I mean, you can turn off chat, if that is part of your problem.
As for killer, it's simple. Never let them have feeling like they are winning. Many survivors go on power trip, when you start struggling as a killer. So either play strong killer, or pick strong perks, or both.
As for survivor, I would say only fix is to play SWF. It's not so bad as shared experience and you are more likely to influence the match.
Thank you for your suggestions, however those are things that I have done. However it's not very effective. I don't blame not having fun on the perks I bring or my opponent(s) bring. It's more like a feeling that this game isn't a horror game anymore, it's just pure competition and pressure. I've made a lot of friends on my way to getting here, a lot of them nice, some of them not, however many, and I mean it, many of them are no longer interested in the game. The nice guys, the people that say their gg's in the end-game chat, say "good try" after watching me end the loop or saying "all good no worries" after timing out on the hook are no longer playing with me. Instead, they are replaced with people who are trying their absolute best to frusturate the opponent side, even though a game is about having fun, not ruining someone's day.
Here is one of the messages I've recieved from my friends as an example.