Voodoomancer

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3198448#Comment_3198448
Where was the ad hominem? I'm actually curious. Oh, hang. If you are referring to this "That you must be cold, uncaring and nothing can hurt you." I wasn't saying you are cold and uncaring (I don't know you). I was stating that people seem to have this view that you most reflect this attitude or are deemed "too sensitive and need to toughen up"
If you find "trash talk" enjoyable, you do you, but not everyone does. I don't want to overshare on here but I was in an abusive relationship for some time and a lot of verbal abuse was involved and to this day it can be triggering for me when someone verbally abuses me, even over a game.
If someone needs to let of steam by abusing another person they really need to seek some sort of professional help because it's not a healthy way to deal with stress.

In favor of a voice chat system that most implement is the ability to mute others. If you don't want to deal with someone else the turn off their output towards you. A vc would be very enjoyable especially as someone who plays survivor exclusively solo. The pros outweigh the cons in this instance.

in Why people choose killers over survivor and how to potentially fix it. Comment by Voodoomancer September 21, 2022

@FriendlyKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/346957/why-people-choose-killers-over-survivor-and-how-to-potentially-fix-it
Someone way back suggested survivors have access to a tier 4 version of all their perks. Which would give each survivor their own unique identities and strengths.
It was unanimously approved of by survivors and killers alike then promptly forgotten.

This is actually a brilliant idea. Do you have a link to the post so that I may read through it. I'm sure people had some cool insights to certain interactions.

in Why people choose killers over survivor and how to potentially fix it. Comment by Voodoomancer September 21, 2022

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3198366#Comment_3198366
Oh, I hate this attitude. That you must be cold, uncaring and nothing can hurt you. If you show the slightest human emotion, you must "toughen up".

Nice ad hominem. I'll humor it though. It doesn't matter what anyone says in person, game vc,or forum post. It is your prerogative to get upset at something anyone says. So yes, people should toughen up and get over what the person they are unlikely to ever see or hear from again outside their particular set of interactions has to say.

You said it right: "uncaring". My guy I've just about been hit with every slur and threat in the book. (Usually a hard R, but what can ya do)I personally love the trash talk. I find it funny when something that doesn't truly matter irritates someone to that point. Who knows, maybe someone has had a rough day at work with their life down the drain and they need someone to scream at so they don't do something they'll regret. I don't mind taking a verbal beatdown.

Tldr: it isn't an attitude, it's a life choice

in Why people choose killers over survivor and how to potentially fix it. Comment by Voodoomancer September 21, 2022

@SpaghettiVase said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3192603#Comment_3192603
Then you’re going to have people who are toxic because you don’t want to participate. Also I’d love to get vocally called slurs in vc and have 0 way to prove who said them so I can’t even properly file a report. Lets just not bother with the option all together. The game isn’t unwinnable without voice chat.

This is funny. I would love for someone to cuss me out over a game. That kind of fuel is the classic lobby experience. Might be good for more people to toughen up to words some

in Why people choose killers over survivor and how to potentially fix it. Comment by Voodoomancer September 21, 2022

@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3190931#Comment_3190931
Dear Voodomancer,
Whilst I did not think that this needed to be expanded upon, I shall oblige your unspoken request for a better explanation and I regret that I did not do so immediately, I’m afraid I am suffering from a terrible migraine, although that is no excuse for my short and frankly unacceptable response.
Firstly, your assumption is most likely incorrect. Yes, Survivors aren’t very unique, that much is true. However, this wasn’t an issue prior to Patch 6.1.0. If their uniqueness was the issue, then why were Survivors Queues multiple minutes long and Killer Queues barely twenty seconds? The true reason is the state of the game for the casual player. For the casual Killer player, the game became much easier after the 6.1.0 Patch due to the numerous buffs to Killer’s base-kits. This included a buff to pallet breaking speed, a buff to gen kicking speed and a buff to successful attack recovery speed. Likewise, several perks were buffed that have become fairly strong, for example, The Nemesis’ perk, Eruption. The average Solo Survivor Experience (casual players) has become much worse after Patch 6.1.0 due to the general Killer buffs, base-kit Survivor nerfs and Survivor perk nerfs. Survivors were given less distance upon being hit and had THREE perks that ensured a decent experience taken away. Dead Hard, I believe, was fairly nerfed and is still perfectly runnable. Decisive Strike, on the other hand, is genuinely bad. Killers will not respect a three second stun and they will tunnel through it. Likewise, Iron Will was also nerfed a bit too hard. These perks, in conjunction with the state of the game prior to Patch 6.1.0, helped ensure a somewhat tolerable experience in the hell that is Solo Q. When those things were taken away, it exposed a genuine problem in the game and its community.
Secondly, this would cause some characters to skyrocket in pickrates whilst others plummet. David King, for example, could have Dead Hard as his base-kit perk. His pick-rate would skyrocket. Claudette may have Self-Care as her base-kit perk, which would cause her use to plummet. Nea may have Urban Evasion but Zarina may have Off the Record. Survivor passives have been discussed before and they have not been looked upon favorably for this reason. It promotes a meta of playing whoever has the best perks in their base-kit instead of playing who you like.
Lastly, I’d like to offer my suggestion to remedy the current Killer to Survivor imbalance. BUFF SOLO Q. Easily said, but not easily done. I’d start by adding indicators to let your team know what you are doing at any given moment. I’d add an optional voice chat. I’d add basekit Kindred and basekit Bond. I would nerf Nurse and Blight, along with re-designing Pinhead and Legion to be more enjoyable to play against and be stronger against SWF teams. I would limit Killers ability to use their powers when in close proximity to a hook (Bubba). I’d buff Reassurance’s distance requirement.
In short, I think that you have drawn the wrong conclusion about what is fundamentally wrong with the Casual Survivor player and how to draw them back in. They will not care about base-kit teachables when they get a facecamping Bubba, forever Legion or sweaty Nurse. They want to have a chance and feel like they are having fun. I hope my answer is satisfactory to you and that I have articulated my possible solutions and well-crafted ideas in a manner that is a credit to my teachers .
Thank you,
Pulsar

My brother in Christ I'm speechless. Very well articulated with references. You truly showed me who was just being a jerk and I do apologise. I whole heartedly agree with a buff to solo queue for information that a swf would generally have. It would make life a lot easier. I will say thank you for the time you took to type all of that out and giving a genuine response to the topic

in Why people choose killers over survivor and how to potentially fix it. Comment by Voodoomancer September 16, 2022

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3190937#Comment_3190937
When I play either side I see almost everyone on the roster anyway.
Because there's nothing stopping them from using whatever perks on the character they want, only aesthetic appeal (and audio). Making survivors have practical benefits would cause people to see survivors as a 5th perk slot choice and gravitate toward whatever's perceived as the most useful. Giving downsides to basekit perks wouldn't change the issue...people would just choose the least bad option.
It's a fun idea on paper, bad in practice.

In theory it's no different from a killer with their powers. Is that not the point? Is the power itself not like a perk for them to use in their own way? Do people pick perks that go with their killers power for an advantage, sure. Do people also go with whatever they feel like at the time even if it is sub optimal sure. Making a survivor a "5th perk" would be as easy as tweaking the base value to put them in a place they want to be. Either way people will play the same that they currently do. I believe unless we see it in practice we can't say for sure if it's a complete asinine idea for certain.

If you had a chance to make survivors more unique other than cosmetics what would you recommend?

in Why people choose killers over survivor and how to potentially fix it. Comment by Voodoomancer September 16, 2022

@LordRegal said:
If David had No Mither basekit, no one would ever play David again unless they were memeing.
Conversely, if David had Dead Hard basekit, there would be a huge influx of David players because you get DH and four other perks.
You can argue that the answer is to give him the middle strength perk of WGLF, but what about characters with three good perks like Meg? Sprint Burst, Q&Q, and Adrenaline are all very good perks (Q&Q there's an argument for being more niche but even so it's a net positive to have) - and she gets one of them for free on top of a full loadout? Or what about Ace who has no strong perks beyond meme builds? Why pick him over someone who got a good perk basekit?
Ultimately whenever survivor passives are brought up, I'm inherently opposed because it would kill survivor variety more than cosmetics and pain noises already do. Whoever had the best passive would skyrocket in pick rate, and the worst would be even rarer than the never picks already are. We already joke about Feng needing her equal attention cosmetic every batch of skins because we see her almost every game, but I'd rather have people picking the characters they like because they like how they look than because their basekit perk is good.

I understand what you are saying, to an extent I agree. However I personally like that idea of No mither basekit. It would be niche sure, but I'd play that with Boon: expo, unbreakable, tenacity, and soulguard/boil over. Something like this is kind of what I was imagining, whether good or bad it gives a survivor an actual playstyle. Rather than everyone being the same and only choosing them for cosmetics.

in Why people choose killers over survivor and how to potentially fix it. Comment by Voodoomancer September 16, 2022

@[Deleted User] said:
Nah, some survivors have absolute garbage perks and would never be played.

I would argue against this. When I play either side I see almost everyone on the roster anyway. A good possibility would be to change the base value for the select survivor to make them better/worse than the perk itself.

in Why people choose killers over survivor and how to potentially fix it. Comment by Voodoomancer September 16, 2022

@Pulsar said:
This isn't the solution

Great contribution to the topic. I really enjoy your well crafted ideas, and how you articulated your possible solutions.

in Why people choose killers over survivor and how to potentially fix it. Comment by Voodoomancer September 16, 2022

Still bugged on ps4 version as of August 28th 2022.

Someone hit me up when it works again.

in Botanist Extraordinaire Challenge can't be completed Comment by Voodoomancer August 28, 2022

@SammiieK1991 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2130100#Comment_2130100
But what if they're having a conversation based on the colour of their knickers 😂

Lol. I can remember a similar thing happened when playing Friday the 13th where the killer joined in on the conversation and it lead to a Max time game.