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No I think that's a cool idea, his character body shape could fit an overweight chef pretty well. Also the look of a creepy chef could be quite menacing.
It would be hilarious to see his abilty skin change as well, rather than potions or what ever he throws, he'd be throwing Soy Sauce or Olive Oil around haha
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@Divinitye9 said:
Sumpsausage said:@Divinitye9 said:
Not a fan of a pitchfork. For some reason when I think of scarecrows and horror movies, I think of a scythe. Either the large scythe or the one handed sickle, either one would be quite cool on a killer like this.
Hey there "Divinitye9"
I know what you mean, when I was designing the character, I went through a couple of different weapons ideas. Such as a rope whip with clawed tips, a full size scythe, a garden hoe, a sickle and a pitchfork. I was originally going to go for the sickle but I thought that was too main stream and ended with the pitchfork because it seems to be more common on farms compared to sickles.
Now I'm not a farmer of have family that have farms so I could be wrong with that last statement.
Another idea could be a hand sized pitchfork, kind of like a dagger but rather than a knife end, its a pitchfork. What are your thoughts on that?
Cheers for your feedback
You don’t see sickles and scythes in most modernized countries due to the use of machinery. They are used by those who do not have access to such things.
Aside from it being an old piece of farm equipment and being “mainstream”, scythes also bring a very strong nod to what they are generally seen as. Scythes are most commonly associated with the grim reaper, hence death. In this entity’s world it would fit quite nicely with the lore.
A jumping slash would also make more sense with a two handed weapon over a single handed. If you are going to jump at someone and you want to make it count, the bigger the better. Whether it be a scythe, a pitchfork, a piece of rebar, or hell an entire leg haunch of a cow... you get the point.
Scythes in my opinion also look far more menacing. Pitch forms are deadly, especially if Jason Voorhees has one, but I’d be terrified if a monstrous scarecrow was waving a scythe in my face.
Just my personal opinion, though.
Hey Devinitye9
It's interesting how one character can be portrayed in so many different ways by so many different people. I have also seen a bunch of videos up online where people have used machines against scythes in harvesting crops and I agree I wouldn't want to go up against one of those.
I may stick with the pitchfork but I will think about what you gave me. Talking about scythes gave me another idea for a killer.
The Reaper: He has a scythe as his main weapon. His ability is he can throw the scythe and where ever it lands he can either teleport to that location or have the scythe return to him. A little bit like the Huntress and Nurse mixed together but that could be a little OP. The finer details will need to be worked out though but tell me what you think?
Great talking to you and everyone here :chuffed:
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@Divinitye9 said:
Sumpsausage said:@Divinitye9 said:
Not a fan of a pitchfork. For some reason when I think of scarecrows and horror movies, I think of a scythe. Either the large scythe or the one handed sickle, either one would be quite cool on a killer like this.
Hey there "Divinitye9"
I know what you mean, when I was designing the character, I went through a couple of different weapons ideas. Such as a rope whip with clawed tips, a full size scythe, a garden hoe, a sickle and a pitchfork. I was originally going to go for the sickle but I thought that was too main stream and ended with the pitchfork because it seems to be more common on farms compared to sickles.
Now I'm not a farmer of have family that have farms so I could be wrong with that last statement.
Another idea could be a hand sized pitchfork, kind of like a dagger but rather than a knife end, its a pitchfork. What are your thoughts on that?
Cheers for your feedback
You don’t see sickles and scythes in most modernized countries due to the use of machinery. They are used by those who do not have access to such things.
Aside from it being an old piece of farm equipment and being “mainstream”, scythes also bring a very strong nod to what they are generally seen as. Scythes are most commonly associated with the grim reaper, hence death. In this entity’s world it would fit quite nicely with the lore.
A jumping slash would also make more sense with a two handed weapon over a single handed. If you are going to jump at someone and you want to make it count, the bigger the better. Whether it be a scythe, a pitchfork, a piece of rebar, or hell an entire leg haunch of a cow... you get the point.
Scythes in my opinion also look far more menacing. Pitch forms are deadly, especially if Jason Voorhees has one, but I’d be terrified if a monstrous scarecrow was waving a scythe in my face.
Just my personal opinion, though.
Hey Devinitye9
It's interesting how one character can be portrayed in so many different ways, it was good to see what you thought. I have seen a bunch of videos up online where people have used scythes against machines in harvesting crops and I agree I would not like to go up against one of those.
I may stick to the pitchfork but I will think about what you gave me. Talking about the scythe gave me another idea for a killer check below and tell me what you think :chuffed:
The Reaper: He has the scythe as his main weapon, but his ability is he can throw the scythe and where ever it lands he can choose to get teleported to that location or the scythe get's teleported to him. A little bit like the nurse and the huntress mixed together, but that could be OP. What are your thoughts?
Good talking you and everyone here :chuffed:
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That's true, as most of the characters share somewhat of a similar animation base that's slightly altered for weapons and character sizes.
What I was mentioning earlier was they didn't want to make a clown because of the clown phobia some people have. So if its something like that they may change there mind while funding is a completely different story, you have to think of concept art, modelling, rigging, animation, lighting, texturing etc... So if they happen to get more funding we may see a character like this in the future.
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@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
It is a great concept but i being the eldest can relate closer to the older brother story and how it plays the older brother is never aware that the person he is chasing is his younger brother he is in a rage blinded by a multitude of emotions the main one being the protection of his younger brother (as he would believe that in his absence the brother could be hurt or worse killed) these ideals were instilled in him by his mother along with the idea to change the father, thats why he didnt resent him because he knew his father was a drunk with an anger problem but that wasnt "who" he was or atleast who he could be. Even though he kept working on his father he always knew what a slippery slope the progress was built on, he grew to love the man but still feared for his and his brother's safety.Okay I got ya, kind of like not wanting to give up on him. Because he realized he isn't living out of true self or true nature. He's living out of a lesser more broken version of himself.
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@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
What Sucks is devs have confirmed they won't make a non humanoid killerI wouldn't totally cut that out. A while ago they said they weren't going to make a clown
so hopefully they will.Because this character sounds awesome. I like the whole werewolf feel to this and you pictured that well with the SFM pic up top. Good job my dude, you did well
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Hey there xmenfanatic
I really like this idea, it looks awesome and I can't wait to see the final product
Regarding Kate Denson, I would say choose what you think looks better. As an studying animator myself I know what it's like to have trouble choosing designs when you like them all. Try looking at it from a critical stand point and ask yourself these questions:
- Do the silhouette stand out from other characters?
- Is this look original from the others or is there some type of similarity that will cause confusion?
- Does this character's color pallet blend in with other characters and backgrounds
Just little things like that will make your tough decisions a lot easier. Now I know silhouettes are harder to define in an 8-bit setting but that's something that you will have to work around and can be quite rewarding once you get it.
Good work my dude
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@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
Sumpsausage said:Hey there TrueKn1ghtmar3
I came from my own scarecrow post that you replied on.
I like the idea of brother rivalry, I did find the story a bit hard to follow with characters intentions and stuff. I did how ever just wake up so I possibly have morning brain.
The idea of having dummies across that map is good, dont get me wrong, but I just have a question. Is that ability too similar to either "The Hag" or The Trapper". That was the reason why I kept away from the decoy idea (although I do like it), but what do you think?
Solid effort my dude, you put alot of time into this and you should proud
When i was writing the story I was looking at it from a psychological point of veiw, older brother having had time with the mother wanting to protect the younger from the father allowing the younger to grow in ignorant bliss, while the older brother (still knowing why he does it) grows to slightly despise his younger while growing close and changing his father into the role modle he wanted. This causes the older brother to build a bond with the father that grow as the years pass, the younger brother still ignorant of the whole situation all he knows is how close his brother and father is and he yearns for that. fast forward to the raid (the night they disappear) the dad called the older brother outside (he some how gained knowledge of this event). The father knowing his uncertain fate in jail (having killed his wife and countless towns folk), he wanted one last bit of control in the end as most sociopaths do. He demanded his son (his prodigee for years) to kill him and hide his body among the scarecrows. At this point his younger brother (determining they are most likely asleep) left the house to go to his star gazing spot in the barn (where his father and brother where plotting the demise of the former). The younger brother draws closer to the barn he hears something about his dead mother (who he mostlikely doesn't remember, yet would love to know) this draws him to the window where he sees his older brother brutally murdering his father, this fills him with terror that his brother has gone crazy or something. Switch sides and rewind a bit. The older brother would be very hesitant about killing his father, firstly he doesn't want to become his father, secondly he has grown to love his father. But on the other hand he still feels the need to protect his younger brother as he is not too certain that his father has changed he still kills. The tipping point is what his father says knowing it would tip his son to murder, bringing up his dead mother who's murder was mystery to neither, the one pivotal role modle in his life. This fills him with rage causing him to brutally hack at his father. Upon hearing an unknown noise out side he gained pursuit in a mix of fear (of being discovered) rage (being made to murder his father for a multitude of reasons), and bloodlust (his first taste of blood links him further to his father bringing out a truely sadistic side).
Hey there TrueKn1ghtmar3
I like the story and it sounds better now that I have an understanding. I like what your going with it but I just have a few questions about the (not to be rude) realism of the characters emotions in the story.
From what I gathered the older brother first suspected and then figured out that the father killed the mother. From most cases I would expect the character to kind of pull back and be resilient or even aggressive towards the father as one would be if he suspected or even knew about him killing his mother. I'm not too sure if there was a reason as well for the father killing the mother and people, unless he is just crazy. I know your kind of going for an older brother wanting to protect the younger brother from the father kind of feel and in getting close he starts to see a good side in him (if I'm reading that right), but I have idea for a slight change to the story that you can take or leave that's up to you.
I like the oblivious younger brother side of the story as well, with him wanting his fathers attention and not knowing the true story, but what if you swapped the killer from the Older brother to the younger brother (hear me out
).What you could do with the story is have the older brother suspecting his father is the killer and acts nice to his face but really inside hates his guts, because of the suspicion. While in the mean time the younger brother is starting to get upset and even a little bit insanely possessive over the father, about the fact he isn't getting as much "love/attention" as the older brother is. Because the Older brother is trying to get close to find out if he did it or not he slowly start to neglect and even forget about the younger brother as he tries to peruse his suspicions. The younger brother tries to prove his worth over and over, but still never lives up the older brother (this would make anyone mad).
Then the turning point, the older brother, I don't know, goes down in the cellar of the house, finds a closet in the barn that stinks (where ever the secret place of all the scarecrow bodies are) and he finds the dead bodies of the families and his mother stuffed inside the scarecrow (I think this what the father did?).
He gets shocked and wanting to protect his brother runs into there rooms and start packing clothes and stuff. He says "they have to leave" but the younger brother has already snapped and plots the kill the older brother, the older brother want to tell him but is afraid of the father hearing them in the house.
Some serious stuff goes down and the younger brother is all crazy and kills the father in front of the older brother (kind of like, if I can't have him no one will sort of thing). The younger brother finds the scarecrows in the barn or something, starts to laugh about this whole thing, about him wanting the love of the man who killed his mother and gets mad at the older brother for keeping him from this secret the whole time.
He then eventually snaps even further making him even more crazy and not being able to trust people anymore, what's real and what's not real kind of thing and puts on the scarecrow mask because he has realized he is just as mad/bad as his father then picks up the mantel of scarecrow and tries to kill the older brother.
At this point you could have two endings, the older brother is killed or the older brother loses the scarecrow and then the fog rolls in. That's up to youIf you did go with this version of the story you will probably have to rename the perks and rework almost all the lore you have put within the perks, weapons and abilities.
But I would love to hear what you think of this reworked story. Like I said I'm not here to burst your bubble just some friendly idea bouncing, but yeah tell me what you think.
All the best my dude
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@Divinitye9 said:
Not a fan of a pitchfork. For some reason when I think of scarecrows and horror movies, I think of a scythe. Either the large scythe or the one handed sickle, either one would be quite cool on a killer like this.Hey there "Divinitye9"
I know what you mean, when I was designing the character, I went through a couple of different weapons ideas. Such as a rope whip with clawed tips, a full size scythe, a garden hoe, a sickle and a pitchfork. I was originally going to go for the sickle but I thought that was too main stream and ended with the pitchfork because it seems to be more common on farms compared to sickles.
Now I'm not a farmer of have family that have farms so I could be wrong with that last statement.
Another idea could be a hand sized pitchfork, kind of like a dagger but rather than a knife end, its a pitchfork. What are your thoughts on that?
Cheers for your feedback
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Hey there TrueKn1ghtmar3
I came from my own scarecrow post that you replied on.
I like the idea of brother rivalry, I did find the story a bit hard to follow with characters intentions and stuff. I did how ever just wake up so I possibly have morning brain.
The idea of having dummies across that map is good, dont get me wrong, but I just have a question. Is that ability too similar to either "The Hag" or The Trapper". That was the reason why I kept away from the decoy idea (although I do like it), but what do you think?
Solid effort my dude, you put alot of time into this and you should proud
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Hey there, thanks for the feedback. My understanding of the perks available and how they work probably needs more attention, but hey we aren't playing for big money.ItsDaEmuDood said:Sorry to break the news, but this is just a bunch of existing perks reworked or nerfed into new ones:
All Tired Up - Literally sounds like a new power. So I've gotta deal with this brick bullsh*t on top of say the Nurse's Blinks? Or the Pig's Grand Scheme? Not so hot after all.
I'm Coming For You - Permanent auras that punish Survivors for doing their job? Really overpowered in the fact that you can track them until you feel it's right. This perk is the least of my complaints, but still, it should be changed.
Hay There! - Extra scratch marks?? Woohoo...? Oh, right. It's for a limited time.
What A Bargain! - Deja Vu is a straight upgrade to this thing. One generator for eight seconds, or three generators for 60 seconds that can also prevent a three-gen strat? Hm...seems obvious.
Bad Real-Estate - Doesn't work. Hatch can never exist/spawn at the start of the game. Now maybe the Hatch's location would be nice as a backup plan, but that's pretty much the only thing that would be applicable here.
Wise Investment - Mini Dead Hard token uses instead of one big Dead Hard? Hell, that may as well stay deep down in the Secret Survivor Desire chest.
Look guys, I hate being mean, but when you have to keep your fellow players in line, you gotta do what you have to do. Sorry if I hurt your feelings OP.
Just remember this is all for fun, I don't expect DBD devs to implement anything and everything. But with any idea there are things that need to be improved, reworked and removed. If there are such glaring issues that yourself has so kindly put on display, I would expect the DBD team to have that understanding on what will make and what will break the game.
But you did make some good points that will be taken into consideration.
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Thank you, it means alot