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@thrawn3054 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1418007#Comment_1418007
People are making their arguments. Nothing has been unreasonable. Spirit will likely always be a controversial killer. Her counters are crap shoots at best. That is why people don't like her. It's not a matter of refusing to get better. You can't get better at guessing what they might do with no information.
Well sure if that is your take on it that's fine. I just don't agree with the common narrative thats all. Maybe the devs should take out undetectable and oblivious statuses. They rob survivors of info as well.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1418007#Comment_1418007
correct me if I'm wrong, you started this thread to ask people why they disliked facing the Spirit. I gave my reasons for disliking facing the spirit. people said these reasons were incorrect because of x, y, or z, and so i'm defending my reasoning.
"play better, win more"/"If you were better you wouldn't mind playing against her so much." I dislike facing the spirit because I find her to be cheap (rich coming from me when I main freddy, I know) and that she takes a lot less time, effort, and skill to play well with and reach rank 1 with. I don't find matches as her fun, either playing her or facing her, hence why I stopped maining her after 2 months. I can still play her and get kills at rank 1 despite playing her for a game when someone in chat wants me to play her. imo that means there's something wrong there, but whatever.
i never said i died often to spirit- it's quite the opposite actually. usually i can escape frequently, like i can escape vs a killer who uses noed, or whatever else i dislike. iron will has become a staple in most of my builds, right next to detective's hunch. however, that doesn't change how much fun she is for me to face or to play, which is the main reason i dislike her, like i dislike old legion and love huntress, nurse, and billy. you feel like those three killers outplayed you and it was a true test of mindgames and skill. as spirit, its like a "oh, i guessed wrong". its not even a 50/50 guess, like a coinflip, because its skewed so far in their favour its like trying to do a backflip from standing, flipping the coin whilst doing so, landing it 1nm into your pinky finger on your right hand, on its side, with the face of the queen facing the moon as it passes behind the sun in an unanticipated solar eclipse.
i admit this game has a reasonable amount of luck involved, but if i fancied gambling with those odds id play in a casino.
That's fair i did want to know why people hate spirit, i just wanted original takes. The whole it's a 50/50 guess thing(more largely the perceived lack of info) is old and played out. You have same information as you would running a jungle gym against a killer who's undetectable. How do you know where ghosty or pig is gonna pop up around a jungle gym you can see through? You don't, you guess based on prior experience and subtle cues. How do you know when a huntress or a deathslinger will shot their shot? You don't, you guess. When a nurse blinks through walls to hit you...thats not a lot of time to see her coming if you're up against the wall so how do you avoid it? You guess. This is what we refer to in the biz as a mindgame, you try to out think your opponent..based on a handful of factors. As fellow killer main has said there are certain maneuvers that do work against spirit.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1417979#Comment_1417979
So you mean to say that playing a killer repeatedly over and over will mean that you won't get any information?
Also, if its silly to assume anyone is entitled to information for participating, why does spirit not have omni-directional audio?
This is getting out of hand. I started this thread to have a reasonable discussion. Seems to me that this is just more of the same. People don't want accountability. Play better, win more. She has play arounds like any other killer. Maybe the devs intended for her to give less information. Stop blaming the killer for your shortcomings. If you were better you wouldn't mind playing against her so much. People who hate on her clearly cannot handle her, but that's fine. It's a PvP game there will never be true balance. One spirit player to the next could mean the difference between a 4k and a 4 out. The players are accountable for their results.
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I suppose I'm the only who can see her crystals glow and hear her footsteps...got it. Oh and yeah stridor i forgot...that old find perk..not like there is nurse's calling, bbq n chili, whispers, bitter murmur, rancor. My bad. You're all right she's busted.
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Being as though you are new you will experience this at lower rank. Yes it sucks but the reality of the situation is that killers do not have time to do that if certain conditions are met. If the survivor getting chased first does not go down easy and wastes 1-2 generators of time face camping should not be an issue after that. If they do you will be able to complete the rest of the gens and leave the killer getting a 1k. Eventually that killer will grow out of face camping because they are not getting a lot of kills or points. It really is on the survivor to use their resources. If you do not like getting face camped throw more pallets and run more optimally, waste more time. It's dead by daylight emphasis on the dead. Not all 4 survivors should live. I don't think deducting points from killers that are already getting low totals due to camping is a reasonable solution. I'm perfectly fine dying so all three of my teammates can escape...this is a good result.
Tunneling is also not great but there are plenty of perks to counter that such as BT and DS...even bottled time in a med kit. Again it's all about survivor game play. If your team pulls you off when the killer is still around and you still have 15+ seconds in your first struggle state, you've all essentially wasted your time on hook resource and gave the killer that much more pressure. The devs give you plenty of play to escaping the trial it just comes down to you and your teammates being good and playing optimally. It's a PvP game there really shouldn't be a nerf every time less skilled players get on forums and moan about their plights. You say you haven't played long...well give it time. You will get better and laugh at stupid killers who face camp or tunnel for 1ks.