Revert the Tenacity changes

GreySkies

This perk got completely gutted for no reason at all. I'm assuming it's simply screwed over by the remnants of the PTB involving the anti-slugging changes, but since those changes did not go through, this perk should be reverted, at least somewhat.
Bring back the crawling and recovering option. It's small, but it's something to counter slugging killers. There is no reason for the perk to hide your aura when this effect counters the old deerstalker - which no longer exists. This was also my favorite perk to run for fun so it's really upsetting to see :(

Coffeecrashing

@CrypticGirl said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4009711#Comment_4009711

Too vague. 

Okay, I can be more specific. If I'm doing a generator and you're chasing a teammate, it's up to you to decide whether to keep chasing, or come over here to stop me from doing the gen. That is how you control whether or not I complete the gen.

We could just say survivors are in complete control if they escape, because they could use various perks and strategies. And if the survivors fail, it's because "they just didn't"

Actually, we can't say that. If Survivors escape, then the Killer failed to control the generators. Even if you just made the bad decision to commit to chasing that one Survivor while the other three rushed the last gen, that was still a decision entirely within your control.

If Survivors fail, then the Killer successfully controlled the gens and prevented them from being completed.

That point is meaningless. A killer could literally stand next to 1 generator, and chase everyone off that 1 generator, and still lose the game. Being able to chase people off of a generator, doesn't mean the killer is in complete control of whether or not survivors complete generators.

CrypticGirl

@Coffeecrashing said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4009719#Comment_4009719

That point is meaningless. A killer could literally stand next to 1 generator, and chase everyone off that 1 generator, and still lose the game. Being able to chase people off of a generator, doesn't mean the killer is in complete control of whether or not survivors complete generators.

"That point is meaningless" is just a way of saying "I don't have any counter point."

6yXJI0

@Coffeecrashing said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4009458#Comment_4009458

Tenacity is sometimes used offensively, to immediately crawl under an undropped pallet.

As in, if the survivor didn’t have Tenacity, then the killer could have immediately picked them up before the survivor got under the undropped pallet.

But Tenacity’s increased crawling speed allowed the survivor to get under an undropped pallet before the killer could pick them up.

Don't mind me! I'm just "OFFENSIVELY" crawling away while you get distracted by another survivor.

Coffeecrashing

@CrypticGirl said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4009721#Comment_4009721

"That point is meaningless" is just a way of saying "I don't have any counter point."

"The Killer could have stopped the Survivors from doing the gens with various perks or strategies, but they didn't" is just a way of saying "I don't have a real argument"

CrypticGirl

@Coffeecrashing said:

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4009728#Comment_4009728

"The Killer could have stopped the Survivors from doing the gens with various perks or strategies, but they didn't" is just a way of saying "I don't have a real argument"

That is an argument, one that you clearly cannot disprove.